Still think that he's our best player after De Gea. He keeps the posession well, doesn't lose the ball often, keeps making very good chances for his teammates (like he did yesterday the header for Depay and that ball for Valencia) and have very good goal and assist output. While not exactly spectacular, he is a player who gives constantly a 7 or 8 every match.
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- Appearances
- 54
- Goals
- 11
- Assists
- 11
- Yellow cards
- 7
- Red cards
- 1
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I would love to see:
Schneidy Schweiny
Pereira Mata Memphis
Martial
Pereira Mata Memphis
Martial
I think it was a pass. He kind of changes his body shape just before he touches it, very slightly. Looks to me like he tried to trick the keeper and defender into thinking he was going to shoot. And it worked!
I remember that day we signed Mata, I was over the moon ! Still very happy we have him, I was perhaps expecting even more from him but I am nonetheless delighted he is a Manchester United player.
Maybe it's just me, or I expect too much, but he's not hitting the herights, a good player though.
Mourinho sold him to give Oscar room. Imo he's much better than Oscar.
He's not excellent in anything, he's a good decent player.
Super performance by Mata yesterday, and it's clear that he's much better on the wing than the centre.
I also think Valencia brings the best out of him, as he works the line much more than Darmian, which means Mata can drift in and get involved in the game more.
I also think Valencia brings the best out of him, as he works the line much more than Darmian, which means Mata can drift in and get involved in the game more.
Wouldn't agree with that.
He's an excellent finisher inside the box. His touch is also excellent. And his passing approaches excellence at times (e.g. the one he laid on for Depay yesterday).
As I said in the matchday thread, when he's running around and getting involved in the midfield battles he genuinely looks like a 12 year old kid that's been brought along to a game between his dad and his mates on the astroturf at a local sports centre.
Running around far too slowly not really getting involved because he can't get to the ball or he'll get outjumped/outmuscled/out-tackled for a 50/50.
But if he has time and space then obviously he's got the talent to create a goal or score one and he'll get far too many plaudits for it.
Running around far too slowly not really getting involved because he can't get to the ball or he'll get outjumped/outmuscled/out-tackled for a 50/50.
But if he has time and space then obviously he's got the talent to create a goal or score one and he'll get far too many plaudits for it.
He's as economical as it gets. He'll obviously never dominate a game with any physical attributes but he consistently contributes to a lot of our best play.
He's got 3 goals and 3 assists in 7 EPL games so far this year too.
I think people assumed he'd be playing an amazing diagonal pass which take out 4 defenders every game but that just isn't what he's about. If you look at some of his highlight reels though you'll realise that he's been a great signing for us. Some fantastic assists and brilliant goals.
I think he's going to end the season with around 15 goals and assists to his name which would be a great return.
He's got 3 goals and 3 assists in 7 EPL games so far this year too.
I think people assumed he'd be playing an amazing diagonal pass which take out 4 defenders every game but that just isn't what he's about. If you look at some of his highlight reels though you'll realise that he's been a great signing for us. Some fantastic assists and brilliant goals.
I think he's going to end the season with around 15 goals and assists to his name which would be a great return.
I'm sorry, but that's bollocks. He's an excellent and clinical finisher, very good first touch and he is quite predatory with excellent movement in the box. He goes missing too much and doesn't dictate or progress our game as much as he should, but to say he doesn't have the one, solitary, excellent trait is mental.
I worked out that, in the league, when he's been on the pitch we've only scored two goals (OG vs. Spurs / Martial 2nd vs. Soton) where Mata either didn't score, lay on the assist, or be the last player to touch the ball before the assist.
Whenever we do anything remotely good attacking, more often not, he's involved around it somewhere.
Whenever we do anything remotely good attacking, more often not, he's involved around it somewhere.
He had 10 goals and 5 assists last season despite the team not being as good and being out of the side for a considerable period. I think he'll get more than that.
Was far more involved yesterday. Thought he had a great game, and I agree that he benefits from Valencia being at RB.
He got 4 assists last season actually so he's already beaten that this season, he's also equalled the assists he got when under Moyes. That's what happens when you have players who can actually finish a chance!
Just for clarity I mean he's going to score around 15 and assist around 15. Something like 12 goals and 17 assists.
I actually think he does that, to some extent. Not literally 4 defenders, but I think his diagonal passes to left wing when he changes the side completely and leaves our left winger with opposition fullback in one on one situation are really underrated, probably because Depay struggles to dribble past that player more often than not.
I really don't see any of this. For the type of player he is he works very hard in getting the ball back and makes plenty of interceptions. Oh, and I guess fans should be more muted when praising one of our players who creates and scores so many of our goals.
Took me a while to figure out what your first paragraph meant. Is that right?
Had a check, he was wrong about the Herrera penalty v Liverpool and Martial v Liverpool. Carrick passed it to Herrera who won the penalty and Schweinsteiger passed it to Young who assisted MartialTook me a while to figure out what your first paragraph meant. Is that right?
OG v Spurs - not involved
Januzaj v Villa - Mata assist
Mata v Swansea - Mata goal
Blind v Liverpool - Mata assist
Herrera v Liverpool - not involved
Martial v Liverpool - not involved
Martial (1) v Southampton - Mata assist
Martial (2) v Southampton - not involved
Mata v Southampton - Mata goal
Depay v Sunderland - Mata assist
Rooney v Sunderland - Mata pass to Martial who assisted
Mata v Sunderland - Mata goal
So that's 4 goals he wasn't involved in, still pretty good.
He wasn't on the pitch for those goals. He'd already gone off. (If he'd been on vs. Liverpool, he'd probably have taken the pen!)
He is the type of player that you can't depend on to make your team better when in a bad rut. But, if the team is playing decent he can help elevate the team to a higher level. He should definitely be starting. He doesn't harm the team as long as the RB is willing to keep the width for him.
Oh shit, you're right. Fair enough!
Took me a while to figure out what your first paragraph meant. Is that right?
Looks like it is! Step aside OptaJoe...
As I said before, will easily end up with 30 goals (goals and assists) combined this season, which would be great.
I also expect the same from Memphis.
I also expect the same from Memphis.
Martial should help with that by drawing defenders and opening up spaces around the goal.
Exactly, that is why Herrera took the penalty.
Disagree. Silva seems to be at the centre of everything whenever City are at their best and he links up brilliantly with Aguero. Mata doesn't have anything like the same kind of involvement in our play. He has great moments but not great games. Silva has great games.
WTF do you mean he doesn't have great games. Most of the time Mata is also at the centre of anything positive we do drifting all over the place. Look at the stats. He's s always one of the players with the most touches and passes in our team.
I don't need to look at the stats, I watch him week in week out. I feel like the figures mask his overall influence, which can often be marginal. He is a very talented player who has great moments but goes missing at times. I've explained my reasoning here, so do I have to go over it again for you? I will of you like. I'll even put bigger spaces between the words so your eyes don't get tired.
Well you are wrong.
Is this true?
Actually, when you put it like that... yes, you're right. I am wrong. How did I not see that? Thanks pal!
silva has been moved to the middle, not wide anymore hence everything going through him. While given the choice id take Silva but considering Mata is playing as a winger he is doing a fantastic job
Silva has been great wherever he's played but even more so playing centrally.
I'd like to see Mata play in the middle tbh, I think it's his best position, especially if we're going to play 2 dms. We need a creative spark ahead of them.
Please can we get a video of Mata's contributions because some people here expect an all action midfielder not a composed player.
Which we do have because Mata playing on the right takes up the same positions as he does when he plays centrally.
I'm a fan of him from the right, I think he does a lot better as the spare man than he does as a classic number 10 lining up against the opposition DM.
Elaborate.
It is true. Though in terms of assists he has had 11 in 55 games for us and 27 in 82 for Chelsea.
If you exclude the the 13/14 season (since he did not have full season with either team)
Goals:
United: 15 goals in 40 games (0.375)
Chelsea: 18 goals in 69 games (0.261)
Assists:
United: 8 assists in 40 games (0.2)
Chelsea: 25 assists in 69 games (0.362)
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