Nah, the ones that are poking fun of those who have said he's useless, a luxury player etc... It's just a bit too primary school like as a rebuttal for me.
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Those posts are still not as bad as the routine posts after every game criticizing him for his "lack of pace, doesn't stay wide, slows the game down, doesn't do anything/stays anonymous, etc."
It's actually amazing when you consider that he was our 3rd fastest player today, behind Martial and Valencia!
this lack of pace argument...
..I was surprised to see a speed stat posted during the game of United's 3 fastest players
1) Martial 33.summat
2) Valencia 32.summat
3) Mata 32.summat
No way can Mata run as fast as Valencia.
Don't really get that. People have called him a useless/luxury player - so why can't people use sarcasm to refute it? I mean, those comments are pretty silly to begin with, so whats the harm with responding with a bit of silliness? Not everything has to be deadly serious all the time.
Saw that myself and was surprised that Depay isn't in that list.I was surprised to see a speed stat posted during the game of United's 3 fastest players
1) Martial 33.summat
2) Valencia 32.summat
3) Mata 32.summat
No way can Mata run as fast as Valencia.
Glad I'm not the only one who saw it.
MotM for me today. His passing is very useful to us as well, keeps us ticking over in the opponent's half which is something Rooney can't do consistently at the moment and Carrick - Schneiderlin are usually too deep for. But apparently he would be a better player to some if he just stayed wide and tried to beat his man and cross all day 
. Moyes might be gone but his vision lives on, clearly.
. Moyes might be gone but his vision lives on, clearly.I like him on the wing. He has a great habit of ghosting into space at the back like he did today, something we wouldn't get from a traditional wide player. Deserves credit for his composure, never snatches at or hurries his shots and he's scored a number of goals by taking a touch first.
Also, having Martial up front is making a big difference, there's much more space for him to operate in
Also, having Martial up front is making a big difference, there's much more space for him to operate in
Mata: the beautiful and fast devil
Well I mean if the initial posts are just silly throwaway comments, then the sarcasm response is fine. But from most of the posts I've seen highlighting criticisms in Mata's play tend to have some rationale and level of analysis to them.
That finish today made me laugh, it was like he gave himself a free kick in the area
Yep, but it's a day for the Mata fanboys so I guess that'll be the tone.
Was he shooting or passing for that first goal?
Yeah, tbf most of the criticism of Mata is fairly reasonable and directed towards faults in his game that are fairly obvious.
I don't think the sarcastic responses are really directed towards those sort of comments though. It's more aimed at those who thought we should drop him for Young/Valencia, or who implied that goals/assists are a luxury, or who blamed Mata for problems that aren't his fault in the first place, or who described him as pointless, or who rubbished the idea that he is actually one of our best players.
People with those sort of opinions deserve every bit of sarcasm that comes their way as those are, objectively, very stupid opinions.
It's definitely a pass.... I doubt he'd cushion a shot in such a manner.
I was surprised to see a speed stat posted during the game of United's 3 fastest players
1) Martial 33.summat
2) Valencia 32.summat
3) Mata 32.summat
No way can Mata run as fast as Valencia.
Yeah he hit a pass against Lens and then lost the foot race to win that ball back, it was kind of funny, like a pug chasing dobermans at a dog park.
MOTM easily. Most effective player on the pitch, but need Valencia.
Worked very hard today. Normally he'd complete one or two of the dinks over the top he mishit. Will start setting up Memphis more an more, I think, with Memphis making good runs between RB and RCB and Martial attracting more attention. Would be helped by someone more mobile than Rooney as a 10.
If Herrera played as the #10 that's our strongest line up imo. Would rather Mata as a 10 but lack a right winger.
Great performance today. Having a mobile forward in front of him helps things a lot.
Yet again, goals and assists. I will say it again, he directly impacts games more than anyone and for that reason should be one of the first names on the team sheet.
I don't want to get carried away by one of the easiest goals he will ever score but when you watch that first touch in slow motion, the way it just spins back and sits, it's a thing of beauty.
More of the same midweek Juan. Hugs.
I don't want to get carried away by one of the easiest goals he will ever score but when you watch that first touch in slow motion, the way it just spins back and sits, it's a thing of beauty.
More of the same midweek Juan. Hugs.
Alongside Martial he's our best attacking player this season. It's cringeworthy how people try to shoot him down time and time again with the same bollocks and it's always him who's on the scoresheet either with a goal or an assist. He should've had probably atleast one assist more today but other attacking players weren't sharp enough in the first 15 minutes or so when he's created very good chance(s).
And it's not really just stats with him, he's working very, very hard all over the pitch, role model player for me.
And it's not really just stats with him, he's working very, very hard all over the pitch, role model player for me.
Getting back to his best pretty much.
In football acceleration and pace over a short distance is most important. Mata is especially poor in this area. He might hit a high top speed on a chase back up the pitch 60 yards, however.
It was brilliant, didn't realise how good until the slow-mo replay on MOTD. It just nestled to a halt straight away to rest like a set piece on the 6 yard line.
Some fans still can't understand his role in the team. To them he needs to be a winger, dribbling at speed and taking players on and getting crosses in. Thankfully, LVG sees otherwise and the way he plays reflects that.MotM for me today. His passing is very useful to us as well, keeps us ticking over in the opponent's half which is something Rooney can't do consistently at the moment and Carrick - Schneiderlin are usually too deep for. But apparently he would be a better player to some if he just stayed wide and tried to beat his man and cross all day
He has been one of our best players so far this season without a doubt. To think some people on here thought he was holding us back and was nothing more than a luxury player, his performances this season in a less favoured role have been very good.
This is the issue. They can't undertand the role of a false winger. We look more composed in the opposition half when he plays.
He's been one of our best players ever since the 2nd half of last season. He actually tracks back and works hard on the defensive side of the game which is brilliant to see.
I think he has a tendency to flit in and out of games. Whenever I watch him I always remember at least a couple of moments of magic but he doesn't seem like the kind of player who imposes himself on a match. He kind of adorns the match instead. Would be fantastic in a complete side though, so hopefully he'll have a more consistent impact as the side around him improves.
Even David Silva drifts in and out of games. What's important is that they make impact when they are in and around the box.
Great player - my only concern is that he loses the ball too often at times.. probably because of the way he carries the ball, it's easier for the opponents to get a toe in usually..
But out of all our attackers, he's usually at the bottom of stats showing who's given the ball away.
Also does quite a bit of recovery work whenever he loses the ball, usually helping us win it back again in short order. Mourinho might have felt his work-rate was lacking at Chelsea but I haven't seen any problems with it at United so far.
Unfortunately a lot of people base their opinions on players by how good they are in FIFA. Has no pace and strength? Must be shit.
There was a thread here a couple weeks ago where some guys argued that Tony fecking Valencia should start over him.
There was a thread here a couple weeks ago where some guys argued that Tony fecking Valencia should start over him.
Unfortunately a lot of people base their opinions on player on how good they are in FIFA. Has no pace and strength? Must be shit.
There was a thread here a couple weeks ago where some guys argued that Tony fecking Valencia should start over him.
I don't think given the way he has played and how poor we were up top till Martial came in that deserves a smiley! He has been largely average this season (he's a talented player) and his stats look great but it's torture to watch him at right of a front three he is severely hampered and United attacks up the right side suffer. Long term he should be 10 or sub imo. Happy he's at United though the more class players the better. But let's not be blinkered about it we need better in that position he's occupying although this doesn't necessarily mean Mata dropping out the team.
He is also number 2 in the team for most interceptions. Just behinfpd Schneiderlin.
I agree, we need someone more dynamic on the right, Mata should play in the middle.
Wow, now that's a surprising stat to me. Is it maybe also because he has the most minutes of our outfield players? Would like to see an interception / minutes breakdown.
He does have a bad game where he goes missing in about 4-5 games, but we can easily afford that. His quality in the games where's good in is just too much to leave him out. His end product is usually excellent too. Brilliant signing.
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