Juan Cuadrado

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Zoo said:
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Would this be classed as more great Chelsea business?

£26m for Cuadrado and probably around £30m in return for Schurrle and Salah = upgrading their squad and receiving a profit.


At least I think that's how the Caf accountants have been doing the maths recently. The reality is obviously that Schurrle and Salah cost £18m and £11m themselves so that's got to be deducted from the net profit, but that doesn't make Chelsea look like the transfer machines everyone likes to paint them as.
 
Pexbo said:
Would this be classed as more great Chelsea business?

£26m for Cuadrado and probably around £30m in return for Schurrle and Salah = upgrading their squad and receiving a profit.


At least I think that's how the Caf accountants have been doing the maths recently. The reality is obviously that Schurrle and Salah cost £18m and £11m themselves so that's got to be deducted from the net profit, but that doesn't make Chelsea look like the transfer machines everyone likes to paint them as.
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To be fair we'd sell Schurrle for £8m and Salah for £3m if we were them.
 
Something dodgy must be going on if Chelsea are getting him for £26 million. It always seems like they get players for a little less than their value nowadays...
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Something dodgy must be going on if Chelsea are getting him for £26 million. It always seems like they get players for a little less than their value nowadays...
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Under the table top-up payments to avoid FFP.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Something dodgy must be going on if Chelsea are getting him for £26 million. It always seems like they get players for a little less than their value nowadays...
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That's his release clause...
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Something dodgy must be going on if Chelsea are getting him for £26 million. It always seems like they get players for a little less than their value nowadays...
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It's his release clause, signed a new deal this summer with it.
 
At £26 million he'll be a fantastic signing for Chelsea and help take their midfield-attack to an almost Real Madrid level.

If Oscar improves a lot, or they find a top number 10 then that'll complete a fearsome front 6
 
I don't think he's as good as a lot of people on here, and would be surprised if he's a better player for them than Willian.
 
Bwuk said:
I don't think he's as good as a lot of people on here, and would be surprised if he's a better player for them than Willian.
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He's a different type of player, he scored 13 goals in all comps last season. Willian got 4...
 
At this moment I'm feeling like: don't rate him, don't need him, we got better than that. Far too expensive, should be around 15 Mil. before beginning any negotiations.
 
I hope chelsea don't get this guy...with hazard and Cuadrado as wingers with Costa up top...that's a dead good forward lineup and can compete with anyone.
 
Ekeke said:
He's a different type of player, he scored 13 goals in all comps last season. Willian got 4...
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Willian works extremely hard, covers for Ivanovic and provides a great outlet on the right for them. Helps balance the front line.

I just don't think he's a major improvement. However when you consider it's likely he's the replacement for Schurrle and Salah, it's a good deal.
 
Bwuk said:
Willian works extremely hard, covers for Ivanovic and provides a great outlet on the right for them. Helps balance the front line.

I just don't think he's a major improvement. However when you consider it's likely he's the replacement for Schurrle and Salah, it's a good deal.
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Cuadrado works hard too. Has played as a wingback up and down the pitch
 
Cuadrado is similar to Willian, but he is a real winger, Willian isnt. Cuadrado is more of a goal threat too
 
MOURINHO COY ON CUADRADO

Jose Mourinho has tried dispel speculation surrounding Chelsea’sreported interest in Fiorentina midfielder Juan Cuadrado.

"He's a Fiorentina player,” he said ahead of Saturday’s FA Cup fourth-round tie with Bradford. “You ask me 20 names, if I don't know them, then trouble. My son knows them! It's my job to know them.

"I think he fits well in the Fiorentina squad, and the Colombia squad, but not in Chelsea's squad."
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http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/
 
Strange comment from Mourinho. If he goes on and signs him, someone will claim it was genius to say it though
 
Fiorentina manager claims it's all rumours and he's going nowhere.

Chelsea manager claims he wouldn't fit well in Chelsea's squad.

RedCafe responds by labeling Mourinho a genius, and praise Chelsea for their work in the transfer window.
 
What's he supposed to say? Clearly any deal to for them to buy Cuadrado requires one or two of his current players going out of the club. He can't publicly say he's interested in him and then look foolish for not landing him, making the price go up, or risk Fiorentina getting mad.

Would be even worse if he admits that he wants to get rid of Salah and Schurrle, can't do so, and then have players stuck at Chelsea knowing the manager doesn't want them.

He literally said the exact same thing just before Mata, Luiz, De Bruyne, and Lukaku were all sold. Can't really believe a word he says when it comes to transfers.

"I'm very happy with my squad and no one is leaving." Then a few days later they're gone and new players are in. Wish we'd do the same.
 
Orc said:
What's he supposed to say? Clearly any deal to for them to buy Cudrado requires one or two of his current players going out of the club. He can't publicly say he's interested in him and then look foolish for not landing him, making the price go up, or risk Fiorentina getting mad.

Would be even worse if he admits that he wants to get rid of Salah and Schürrle, can't do so, and then have players stuck at Chelea knowing the manager doesn't want them.

He literally said the exact same thing just before Mata, Luiz, De Bruyne, and Lukaku were all sold. Can't really believe a word he says when it comes to transfers.

"I'm very happy with my squad and no one is leaving." Then a few days later they're gone and new players are in. Wish we'd do the same.
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Since when does he have to say anything? Lots of managers dont talk about players from other clubs.

But its very strange to say that a player fits well in his club and his national team squads but doesnt fit well at your squad, and then sign that player. It remains to be seen if he does sign him, from that comment you'd have to think he probably wont
 
Ekeke said:
Since when does he have to say anything? Lots of managers dont talk about players from other clubs.

But its very strange to say that a player fits well in his club and his national team squads but doesnt fit well at your squad, and then sign that player. It remains to be seen if he does sign him, from that comment you'd have to think he probably wont
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I think that quote is a misinterpretation due to his english. He was asked if he felt Cuadrado would fit in Chelsea's team and didn't want to disrespect another clubs player by saying yes. So instead he said "he fits in Fiorentina's and Colombia's squad, not Chelsea's."
 
Orc said:
I think that quote is a misinterpretation due to his english. He was asked if he felt Cuadrado would fit in Chelsea's team and didn't want to disrespect another clubs player by saying yes. So instead he said "he fits in Fiorentina's and Colombia's squad, not Chelsea's."
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How does that make any sense?

He can just refuse to comment and then he doesnt disrespect Fiorentina, and he doesnt disrespect the player like he has done

The only way to interpret what he actually said is that he thinks hes a good player for Fiorentina and Columbia but not for Chelsea and there is no reason why he needs to say that if he doesn't believe it.
 
Ekeke said:
How does that make any sense?

He can just refuse to comment and then he doesnt disrespect Fiorentina, and he doesnt disrespect the player like he has done

The only way to interpret what he actually said is that he thinks hes a good player for Fiorentina and Columbia but not for Chelsea and there is no reason why he needs to say that if he doesn't believe it.
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Alright.

Still wouldn't be surprised if he's a Chelsea player soon enough.
 
Ekeke said:
How does that make any sense?

He can just refuse to comment and then he doesnt disrespect Fiorentina, and he doesnt disrespect the player like he has done

The only way to interpret what he actually said is that he thinks hes a good player for Fiorentina and Columbia but not for Chelsea and there is no reason why he needs to say that if he doesn't believe it.
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You're over thinking it. He basically said he's a Fiorentina and Colombian national team player and not a Chelsea player.
 
For those who like a bet, Cuadrado is 6/4 (2.50/1) to stay at Fiorentina this transfer window (until 4th feb 2015) on SkyBet. Di Marzio on twitter few hours ago said Chelsea have lost interest in Cuadrado, then you've got the two managers comments. Very good odds, and I should already be making some money from them when Hummels stays at Dortmund this window too (they had it at 1/2!)
 
antihenry said:
You're over thinking it. He basically said he's a Fiorentina and Colombian national team player and not a Chelsea player.
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He says he fits those squads well, not that he plays for them

I know English isn't Jose's first language, but he knew what he was saying. I just have no idea why he said it because if you dont want to sign him, theres no need to comment and if you do want to sign him, you're best not saying this because it doesnt sound like you like him that much.
 
Having basically been rejected by us and by Barca in the summer I'm sure he's absolutely desperate to join Chelsea.
 
It was Fiorentina that rejected. They wanted way too much money, now he has a reasonable clause in his contract
 
Don't know how reliable this Sport Mediaset are in Italy (also reporting De Gea has signed a new contract), but they are reporting that we've made a offer €29m + Januzaj on loan until 2016 for Cuadrado. Anybody else heard anything on this?
 
gaz1185 said:
Don't know how reliable this Sport Mediaset are in Italy (also reporting De Gea has signed a new contract), but they are reporting that we've made a offer €29m + Januzaj on loan until 2016 for Cuadrado. Anybody else heard anything on this?
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Sky sports have just said they'd only sell him for his release clause and don't want Salah in any deal, so it's probably bollocks.
 
gaz1185 said:
Don't know how reliable this Sport Mediaset are in Italy (also reporting De Gea has signed a new contract), but they are reporting that we've made a offer €29m + Januzaj on loan until 2016 for Cuadrado. Anybody else heard anything on this?
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That would not be a bad deal for us IMO.
 
We should activate his buy out clause, then get Bale in the Summer. Our team lacks serious pace, and this guy stupidly quick. Sign him up, Louis!
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
We should activate his buy out clause, then get Bale in the Summer. Our team lacks serious pace, and this guy stupidly quick. Sign him up, Louis!
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I think Cuadrado for >£30M is very reasonable, not to mention he can play RWB as well.
 
ravi2 said:
I think Cuadrado for >£30M is very reasonable, not to mention he can play RWB as well.
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That actually weakens my desire for this transfer. I don't want anyone who'll likely add to the longevity of the back 3/5. That said, he's a fine player.
 
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