Juan Cuadrado
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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Well played sir.Gervinho has functioned well in Roma's system, playing for his old Lille manager. Lamela had one good season in the Serie A at the age of twenty and was expected to fill the boots of Gareth Bale. It's like buying Theo Walcott to replace Thierry Henry or Antonio Valencia to replace Ronaldo, i.e. hit or miss. Giaccherini was a useful and versatile back up at Juventus and never more than that.
Flops going the other way include Ashley Cole, Anderson, Micah Richards etc. Graziano Pellè and Coutinho flopped in the Serie A and have been looking something in England.
Point is, there are more intra-league flops than any other kind of flops. Had Fellaini arrived from the Serie A and done as he did last season, you would have questioned Serie A too. Think of the puchases of Shevchenko and Torres - both flopped, and it had nothing to do with the league they were playing in prior to moving to Chelsea.
Cuadrado is the real deal and would be an asset to any team who signs him, which he has demonstrated both for club and country.
Cuadrado going to Chelsea may be good for us in the long run. What if they've been told by Reus' people that he's Real Madrid bound and that's the reason they're after Cuadrado?
Cuadrado > Chelsea
Reus > Real Madrid
Bale > Us
Cuadrado > Chelsea
Reus > Real Madrid
Bale > Us
We're obsessed with Chelsea's transfers and players.
That's what I'd assume. Willian and Mikel for tough games. Oscar and Cuadrado for the rest.
I'm surprised we're not in for him, he's perfect for this 352 shite we also play. Also hard working and a very good winger.
We should definitely be in for him.
I must be in the minority but I don't rate him that highly. He can do some brilliant things but he can also look absolutely terrible (aka Nani). I wouldn't be overly bothered if Chelsea get him, he's no better than Willian IMO and wouldn't really improve them.
Oh well.Would have been perfect for us.
Same. And we all know Van Gaal would only use him as a wingback, which means 352 would be here to stay.
I wouldn't generally associate him with a Mourinho team.
Haven't seen much of him outside of the last World Cup but it'd be worrying for Chelsea if he was no better than Willian as so many in here say. He's such an average player, just a work horse with good pace.
Seems a strange move. Is he really an upgrade on either Willian or even Schurrle? Salah I can understand, that was never going to work.
Salah will be shipped out, maybe even this month. Schurrle, I think, is more likely to stay, but may be gone in the summer if his form doesn't improve.
If we replace Salah, who's totally out of his depth at CFC, with Cuadrado, that's a definite improvement.
If we replace Salah, who's totally out of his depth at CFC, with Cuadrado, that's a definite improvement.
Harsh on Willian. If he played for us, I think he'd look much better than he does for Chelsea and he'd be talked about as one of the better wingers in this league.
So should we through a cheeky bid for schurlle?
I think he's a tidy player
I think he's a tidy player
This. Let's take him off their hands.
We could do, then play him out of position for a laugh.
Doesn't work hard enough, he's a goal threat no doubt but not up to mourinho's standards, hence why they are going in for Cuadrado. I'd take Cuadrado over Schurrle tbh
I don't rate him. I remember I was very surprised how much people wanted him here, where I find him as a one trick pony. I reckon if he will be an upgrade on William, then by a slight margin. Probably better defensive skills and work rate but don’t think he’s better offensively (what sound like Mourinho TBH).
Why is that?
Because they just get shit done and buy good players whilst we faff around and then overspend on players we don't need.
I agree. I think Willian is a very good player. As you said, playing for any other team regularly and he'd look the business. Got that bit of flair about him but is also a very tidy player on his day and gets his passes right, showing his intelligence. Wasn't sure about him based on what I saw at Shakhtar, but he's shown his ability for Chelsea.
Thought Brazil would use him more at the WC as he'd bring that calmness to their attack, which would have been ideal in amongst the likes of Hulk etc.
That's a lot of wingers they've washed their hands with within a year. De Bruyne out, Salah & Shurrle potentially out. Moses, Kakuta, Marin, Atsu still on the books but they'll ditch them lot soon.
His passing is one of the biggest problems I have with him. I've seen him play some really sloppy passes far too often, and they are usually not even difficult ones.
Am I wrong or is Cuadrado exactly the type of player out attack is missing...............pacy.
I would quite happily pay 20-25 mill for schurrle of he played regular games he would score quite a lot of goals and he would add a different option for us up top with his pace and movement and the fact he can actually beat his man with skill.
LVG's philosophy will say he has to play Centre mid because the philosophy is always correct.
I know schurrle doesn't have the workrate that cuadrado does bit tbh there isn't much difference between the 2 players, from what I've seen personally of the 2 players I'd still take schurrle
So Mourinho doesn't like Willian and Schürrle anymore. It's not a signing that will really strengthen them as they will have to sell players to buy.
I think Cuadrado could be better for them than Willian and Schurrle. Schurrle really is a weird one because his numbers are good and he is very efficient yet he hardly ever plays well when I watch him.
Placing a bid for him or Schurrle would just be spending money for the sake of doing so. We have no place or particular need for either player.
Willian has a better work rate defensively. That's why he plays ahead of Schurrle. Nothing weird really. Chelsea are too vulnerable going out with Fabregas, Hazard, Oscar, Costa and another attacking winger (Schurrle). Put any other player on Matic's place and that midfield would get overrun by most teams in the PL. Moreover, Ivanovic's average position is way too high up the pitch (something I've always wondered how and why Mourinho tolerates) and they need Willian fill the holes on that wing.
Cuardado makes sense, really. He'd be an upgrade to Willian both in offense and in defense. He won't elevate them to a higher level, something a player like Reus could do, but he also won't disrupt the current balance imo. That's probably more important.
Isn't this a signing we're desperate for? Instead we have to suffer watching Valencia at right wing back being unmarked because the opposition want him to get the ball so they can block his predictable crosses time and time again.
Problem with Schürrle is that his form has huge peaks and valleys. He's brilliant one match and then so bad the next that Mourinho hauls him off at half time.
I think he'd thrive in a side where he'd be given a regular starting XI place.
I think he'd thrive in a side where he'd be given a regular starting XI place.
It's admirable how ruthless Chelsea are when it comes to transfers, this one will be done in no time.
The whole set-up with their player farm and their dealings in the transfer market have been fantastic so far. The way they have upgraded their ageing squad with young, world-class talent at decent fees and wages in two or three windows is a lesson for all to follow. I don't even know how they have been able to extract exhorbitant transfer fees for the likes of Luis and Lukaku; both of them went for 2 or 3 times their actual worth. You can bet that they get more than what they paid for both Salah and Schrulle
Have set themselves up for the long haul. With a genius manager and all major rivals with issues in their squad, we are staring down at a period of Chelsea dominance.
In my opinion, we're spending too much money on a rotation option who is already 27 years old because I can't see him starting a head of Willian.
We all ignoring the fact his manager said he's going nowhere then?
With any talented player not playing for Mourinho, there's a decent change he'll hit a new level in his career as a result of playing for Mourinho, and Cuadrado has lots of positive qualities.
If you look at where Chelsea could realistically improve in their main squad, it's basically Mikel's spot (backup DM and starting CM when Cesc is out or playing as a 10), Terry's spot as of next year or whenever Mourinho thinks he's past it and then probably Willian's wing. No sense in trying to buy someone expensive to beat out Costa, Hazard, Cesc, Matic, Ivanovic, Felipe Luis (especially with Azpilicueta around), or Courtois. I guess RCB (Cahill) vs RW (Wllian) is worth a discussion, but I think it's pretty clearly Cahill.
Point is, a scary right-sided winger should, at worst, be Chelsea's 3rd transfer priority, so it makes total sense, especially since the Terry replacement might be delayed until he's actually leaving.
Ugh. I'm not feeling as hopeless about this as when Joe Cole looked like Maradona against us back in Mourinho's first run and it seemed like we might never beat them again, but I'm not a million miles away.
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