The only even slight reason is both are forwards.
But they're so different in every way beyond that it's a very odd comparison.
Zirkzee reminds me a bit of a non physical version of Fellaini who likes his flicks.
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But they're so different in every way beyond that it's a very odd comparison.
Zirkzee reminds me a bit of a non physical version of Fellaini who likes his flicks.
My issue with Zirkzee isn't the same as with Hojlund. Hojlund isn't the finished product and needs to improve, same as Zirkzee, but they are both young so that makes sense. The difference is that I have no worries with Hojlund in terms of his physicality, pace, aggression, tenacity, he can hack it in the Prem even if his ability lets him down sometimes. With Zirkzee it's like he's moving through treacle the whole time, has no intensity, pace is sorely lacking, has a big size but rarely uses his physicality, so if his ability lets him down he offers absolutely nothing. One good run in the game and the rest felt like he was just standing around like a statue misplacing passes the whole game. Weak.
So unlike Hojlund I don't see how he makes it in this side playing like that, I don't think he can hack the pace at all.
So unlike Hojlund I don't see how he makes it in this side playing like that, I don't think he can hack the pace at all.
Even when he has an alright performance, he still sticks out like a sore thumb due to his lack of pace and intensity. No idea why we bought him. Was he an Ashworth buy?
Needs to keep it simple and efficient. Fewer touches and more movement off the ball
He’s so bad it’s almost parody.
Needs to be fecked off in January before he has a chance to tank his value anymore.
Needs to be fecked off in January before he has a chance to tank his value anymore.
Can't remember seeing a worse centre forward at United. Weghorst and Ighalo were better. Genuinely, who was the last striker we had one who offered as little as Zirkzee? Dong Fangzhuo?
I find it difficult to sympathise with him when he jogs around for most of the game.
I find it difficult to sympathise with him when he jogs around for most of the game.
I thought last 2 games were a fair bit better. I think theres potential for better from him but will take a while to settle.
I thought he started quite well and tbf we just dumped him a in a difficult position a few times. Surrounded by their players, none of ours anywhere near him.
But he still doesn't look fit. If this is him at peak fitness.....we have a problem.
But he still doesn't look fit. If this is him at peak fitness.....we have a problem.
Thought he had a poor first 10 minutes but improved after that.. some decent touches and retained the ball well. There’s promise there, but he definitely needs to up the intensity.
Some good stuff but felt like he’s just holding on to the ball a bit too long. Kept taking a couple of decent touches and then losing it when he tried a 3rd and 4th. Needs to keep it a bit simpler and use his strength more. That run near the start felt like something he should be able to do more often.
Went on a good run early in the game and seem to go on a mission of repeating that run past 3 players every chance he got after that to prove a point. There’s never giving up and there’s plain stupid footballing mentality. Zirkzee went the latter.
Seriously we need to sell him this January while he's serie A status is still intact. The more he plays the more people realize how shit he is. It's like Antony, we need to cut our losses early or he'll become deadwood really fast.
He been here only for few months, less than a month with the new manager.
He’s not offering anything. If we just needed hold up play, we could have kept Martial who would probably had excelled in this setup. Zirkzee is a poor man’s Martial and that’s saying something
Im now convinced we could resign Bebe and some will still say we should be patient with him because he’s a new signing.
Please sell Zirkzee while he still has some admirers in Serie A
Please sell Zirkzee while he still has some admirers in Serie A
Agrée but I find Hojlund not strong enough too. He is going down everytime a defender comes at him. It’s so frustrating.
I just don't see where he fits long term, simply on the pitch, with what he offers.
If United are efficient then they'll let him go in January and they bring someone else. Let's cut the losses before his price plummet
He's either Ruud Gullit or Fellaini. We took a massive gamble on him.
Has no place at all in this system, but he also just isn't up to standard. What a pointless, bizarre signing.
He's had flashes where you can see a good amount of quality, good touch, physicality and build up play.
His bottom level is truly awful though and if his touch is a bit off he's basically useless. Hopefully it's just adjustment pains.
His bottom level is truly awful though and if his touch is a bit off he's basically useless. Hopefully it's just adjustment pains.
He is bobbins
Will not make it but will be hard to sell in summer again I assume
Don't go down the sunk cost fallacy with him.
Admit that it was a poor signing and let him enjoy Serie A again.
Admit that it was a poor signing and let him enjoy Serie A again.
I guess the point is that he was for ETH's system, the point being the 9 is sacrificed in order to make your 2 wingers the most important players, where the goals come from. Playing Zirkzee in this setup makes sense.. doesn't make much sense now
I agree with you 100%. Like Fellaini but without the chest control or ariel presence.
I've never seen a player who wants the ball less. He just sprays it first time in whatever way he's facing as he can't wait to get rid of it.
Watched the first half again, most times his decision making is poor
I can't see how a manager who relies on the intensity of his teams is going to allow half arsed players like Zirkzee and Rashford be at the forefront of his future squad.
Seriously who bought him? He couldn’t get into Netherlands team or bench, every red flag was there. He will never be good enough for us and we should just sell him again.
Still think eth set us 5 years back with his signings.
Still think eth set us 5 years back with his signings.
Weghorst? The man that didn't score a PL goal for United in an entire season?
LVG also set us back years, must be something to do with Dutch naiverty ans stubborness.
Even forgetting the standard of his play, I’m interested in what Amorim thinks of him physically. He’s obviously got a big frame naturally but he looks like he’s carrying some extra timber (by the standards of an elite footballer) and it’s almost impossible to get away with that in the PL now. And it’s not even translating into him being really tough to knock off the ball or particularly robust. Maybe that’s one of those things they’d only try to address properly in a pre-season.
I preferred Weghorst because at least he was capable of sprinting. He only joined us in January, so an 'entire season' seems disingenuous.
It's his first season but won't be surprised if we sell him as early as next summer. It's obviously a good thing when a young-ish player like Zirkzee is in Serie A team of the season but the pace and intensity of Premier League is something he's struggling with (same can be said about Hojlund last and even this season). I like to give players benefit of the doubt when it's their first season in England so won't write him off.
He had about 15 mins last night when you could see it, ball was going up to him and sticking, his lay offs were nice and slick, fair bit of promise, then...shite.
Some fans I have talked to have compared him to the likes of Berbatov and Kanu, but they still had more physical intensity about them as well as far more ability.
Really hard to see how it is going work for him in England with his physical profile and style.
Some fans I have talked to have compared him to the likes of Berbatov and Kanu, but they still had more physical intensity about them as well as far more ability.
Really hard to see how it is going work for him in England with his physical profile and style.
Weghorst worked really hard and did a great job for the team overall. Yes his goalscoring was awful but his overall play was good.
Zirkzee is just a terrible signing for the PL.
He is actually talented (has great feet and a good pass) but can't do it in the PL due to the pace of the league. He's much more suited to Serie A.
SELL SELL SELL before it's too late to recoup our money.
I actually feel bad for him at this point. His confidence is so low that he played a simple pass under no pressure to the opposition.
You can tell he has good link up play with the flicks but just that on it owns won’t cut it in the PL. Looks like a final third player, a 5aside striker.
You can tell he has good link up play with the flicks but just that on it owns won’t cut it in the PL. Looks like a final third player, a 5aside striker.
“I can’t add more now, we’re focusing on completely different things now”, told Sky.
Things coaches and directors usually say in a diplomatic way when they want to buy a player.
Carrying far too much timber and his lolloping shooting fingers celebration gets right on my tits.
Comparing him to Fellaini is equally preposterous and the only reasons to do it are his size and hairstyle.
In reality he is like a shit and lazy version of Berbatov, which is not a good thing, obviously.