Jose Mourinho vs Pep Guardiola vs Carlo Ancelotti

Ideal next manager of Man United

  • Jose Mourinho

    Votes: 60 14.4%

  • Pep Guardiola

    Votes: 306 73.4%

  • Carlo Ancelotti

    Votes: 51 12.2%
  • Total voters
    417
Am I the only one who thinks Pep's teams are dull as dirt to watch? Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, ∞
After about 30 minutes of this they might venture into the opposition's last third and score a pretty "walked in" style goal, but I have a feeling that ability will be shut out more easily against the high-energy, compact nature of most Premier League teams.

If you think pace, power and flying wingers is something that's lacking in our play now...
 
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endless_wheelies said:
Am I the only one who thinks Pep's teams are dull as dirt to watch? Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, ∞
After about 30 minutes of this they might venture into the opposition's last third and score a pretty "walked in" style goal, but I have a feeling that ability will be shut out more easily against the high-energy, compact nature of most Premier League teams.

If you think pace, power and flying wingers is something that's lacking in our play now...
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Yeah it was dull and dirt boring watching them destroy Arsenal 5-1. Who wants to see that crap?
 
endless_wheelies said:
Am I the only one who thinks Pep's teams are dull as dirt to watch? Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, ∞
After about 30 minutes of this they might venture into the opposition's last third and score a pretty "walked in" style goal, but I have a feeling that ability will be shut out more easily against the high-energy, compact nature of most Premier League teams.

If you think pace, power and flying wingers is something that's lacking in our play now...
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Yes, you're the only one (lol). His belief is quite simple really...If my team has the ball you won't score. He wants his teams to pass the ball and press high until they get into a scoring position. Nothing wrong with that.
 
prarek said:
Yeah it was dull and dirt boring watching them destroy Arsenal 5-1. Who wants to see that crap?
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Il Prete Rosso said:
Yes, you're the only one (lol). His belief is quite simple really...If my team has the ball you won't score. He wants his teams to pass the ball and press high until they get into a scoring position. Nothing wrong with that.
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Seems so. Personally my penchant is for fast, direct, electrifying attacks, I guess there's merit in the methodical, patient build up of Guardiola though. Just don't think you can even dress up being Barcelona v2 (or v3 now after Bayern) as the "United way".
 
Get In Scholesy said:
Any idea as to when Pep will let everyone know what his decision will be?
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He seems to think he'd God's gift to football. His record since managing is quite incredible though but I think he'd be in for a rude awakening as to the competitiveness of the Premier League. Besides , he really hasn't managed in a league as competitive as the Premier League. Barcelona had Real Madrid and Bayern had Dortmund as his only probable challengers.
 
Il Prete Rosso said:
He seems to think he'd God's gift to football. His record since managing is quite incredible though but I think he'd be in for a rude awakening as to the competitiveness of the Premier League. Besides , he really hasn't managed in a league as competitive as the Premier League. Barcelona had Real Madrid and Bayern had Dortmund as his only probable challengers.
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Its not that the leagues are not competitive its the fact that Barcelona/Madrid/Bayern have amazing teams. If there was a team in the PL with that many top players, they would also make the league look easy.

We dont have a single "super" team in England which makes it a far more challenging prospect. Pep could just as well come and build one of these super teams and walk the league.
 
Il Prete Rosso said:
He seems to think he'd God's gift to football. His record since managing is quite incredible though but I think he'd be in for a rude awakening as to the competitiveness of the Premier League. Besides , he really hasn't managed in a league as competitive as the Premier League. Barcelona had Real Madrid and Bayern had Dortmund as his only probable challengers.
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Its got absolutely nothing to do with the competitiveness of leagues. There are only 2 realistic challengers in the premier league this season. Its more the fact that he will have more work to do in england because there are no team that has the kind of players that Barca and Bayern had. Those Barca and Bayern teams would poop all over this league just as easily.
 
RedStarUnited said:
Its not that the leagues are not competitive its the fact that Barcelona/Madrid/Bayern have amazing teams. If there was a team in the PL with that many top players, they would also make the league look easy.

We dont have a single "super" team in England which makes it a far more challenging prospect. Pep could just as well come and build one of these super teams and walk the league.
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It is not just the players. It takes time to build up the system as you see with your own team. It does not only need this technically great players - some youngsters perform better at the beginning than a lot of the stars - but players that give up a little of the individuality for the team. It is not just about the technical abilities but about postional awareness and workrate.

What I see right now in the EPL is that there is more and more of the smaller teams that adapt tactics of the continent - that start to use group orientated pressing and counterpressing - that makes it more difficult for the top teams, too... (that is easier to build up than a possession team as it is more about work against the ball than with - a successful possession team has to be great in both - work with and against the ball)

The top teams in the EPL somehow still think it is enough to buy 11 good or top players and throw them on the pitch...

 
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As good as the smaller teams supposedly are... Chelsea 04-07, United 06-08 and the Invincibles would piss on this league.. win it by 20+ points.
 
Raees said:
As good as the smaller teams supposedly are... Chelsea 04-07, United 06-08 and the Invincibles would piss on this league.. win it by 20+ points.
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That is easy to say - but we aren't in 2000 to 2010 anymore and what the EPL then set apart from e.g. a lot of the teams from the European Continent was their physicality + the accumulation of top talent.

They closed the gap and with that acquired more and more of the top talent or less or less thought that the EPL is more attractive. As long as a transfer to the EPL meant both - more money and more titles it was much more attractive.
 
Blackwidow said:
That is easy to say - but we aren't in 2000 to 2010 anymore and what the EPL then set apart from e.g. a lot of the teams from the European Continent was their physicality + the accumulation of top talent.

They closed the gap and with that acquired more and more of the top talent or less or less thought that the EPL is more attractive. As long as a transfer to the EPL meant both - more money and more titles it was much more attractive.
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Those teams would wipe the floor with City and Arsenal of today. Look how Chelsea ran away start of last season when they were in form, those teams were also a lot better than that Chelsea side.
 
Blackwidow said:
That is easy to say - but we aren't in 2000 to 2010 anymore and what the EPL then set apart from e.g. a lot of the teams from the European Continent was their physicality + the accumulation of top talent.

They closed the gap and with that acquired more and more of the top talent or less or less thought that the EPL is more attractive. As long as a transfer to the EPL meant both - more money and more titles it was much more attractive.
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I don't buy it that teams in the EPL are getting more tactically advanced. There were some cracking lower league sides even in the 2004-2009 period.

Its just they were having to compete against genuinely world class sides. I mean compare the old Spurs sides or Liverpool sides under FSW .. and to their current sides now?

Huge gulf both in terms of personnel and tactics. EPL has declined massively and I don't think europe as a whole is at a high level in terms of quality. . Barca and Bayern are very strong but still not as good as they once were.

That said. . With all these big managerial changes afoot. . Times are exciting especially for the EPL. I see it rising to the top once again in next 5 years.
 
prarek said:
Its got absolutely nothing to do with the competitiveness of leagues. There are only 2 realistic challengers in the premier league this season. Its more the fact that he will have more work to do in england because there are no team that has the kind of players that Barca and Bayern had. Those Barca and Bayern teams would poop all over this league just as easily.
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You're completely ignoring the fact that Barcelona and Bayern Munich enjoyed the pick of the litter in those leagues when it came to the best players. Its not like that in the Premier League as either City, Utd, Chelsea or Arsenal can enjoy the luxury of buying top players. I'm not trying to belittle his work... I'm just trying to show that his work would be much harder in the PL.
 
Raees said:
As good as the smaller teams supposedly are... Chelsea 04-07, United 06-08 and the Invincibles would piss on this league.. win it by 20+ points.
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This x 1000. The Utd team that won the league 3 times in a row would piss all over this league. They were a joy to watch even for neutrals like me.
 
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