Jose Mourinho | Spurs manager
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He's been at Norwich for eight years and played against Poch's Spurs twice in 2015/16 in the Premier League. Does he even need to play against Spurs to have an opinion on a playing style when he, like all of us, will have probably seen them in action on the television regularly both under Mourinho and under Pochettino? None of us on the caf or other forums have personally played against Mourinho but we know his playing style.
Just reminded me what cnuts the press are
Never seen a manager equate a 3-0 loss with 3 pl titles.
Don't think it's an outrageous diss. It's literally what both managers would say if you asked them to describe their individual styles
He was the best of a dreadful, dreadful bunch. And the one who got to spend the most money.
Btw, finishing ahead of Liverpool was the status quo. LvG finished ahead of Liverpool - twice. Mourinho's dreadful tenure is the reason we fell behind them.
Also, being the best of the dreadful bunch, he took us 3 years backwards. That van gaal squad 2016 should have been built on, instead mourinho overhauled van gaal’s work. I can never forgive the toxic one. I always was against him coming in and continue to so be against his style of management.
Not disputing his point but just think he’s done it to try and take a completely unnecessary dig because it’s “in” to have a go at Mourinhos style.
Why did he choose now to make those comments? Of course you don’t need to play against Mourinho to make this point but his timing of the comments are as if he’s just discovered it by playing against them on Wednesday. Spurs have been shite for well over a year.
Feel bad for Spurs fan. I love a manager with a progressive footballing philosophy. They sold one with one of the most progressive in football for a manager with an outdated reactive one. I would hate that, but I guess their fans would rather win ugly than play beautiful football.
That is also why I am not the biggest fan of Ole or Mourinho despite the positive result they bring. I want to watch football and enjoy the performance we put on the pitch and not ride our luck. Anyway, I m not going to write of Mourinho yet, because this type of philosophy can produce positive result and I won’t be surprised if next season, Mourinho wins a trophy with it.
Would have enjoyed if squishy mcsquishy was still here. Everything he wanted happened and it is failing miserably. I would have loved seeing him try to move the goalpost
What happened to squishy? Banned or left on his own?
Feel bad for Spurs fan. I love a manager with a progressive footballing philosophy. They sold one with one of the most progressive in football for a manager with an outdated reactive one. I would hate that, but I guess their fans would rather win ugly than play beautiful football.
That is also why I am not the biggest fan of Ole or Mourinho despite the positive result they bring. I want to watch football and enjoy the performance we put on the pitch and not ride our luck. Anyway, I m not going to write of Mourinho yet, because this type of philosophy can produce positive result and I won’t be surprised if next season, Mourinho wins a trophy with it.
Would have enjoyed if squishy mcsquishy was still here. Everything he wanted happened and it is failing miserably
Poch's football wasn't ever particularly beautiful. It was definitely not outdated, but it was quite workman-like. The likes of Klopp, Guardiola, Tuchel play much more beautiful football while Poch's a lot more pragmatic compared to them. I'd go as far as saying, as far as the current top managers go Poch's football is more closer to the likes of Simeone & Conte (who also press high and effectively) than the 3 I mentioned.
Yeah, for me he was the worst of the post fergie managers. Spent more, left the squad in a horrendous shape and put morale at rock bottom.
Perhaps he was asked about it since, you know, he played against them on Wednesday.
Yep.
In LvG's last season, we finished ahead of Liverpool and on the same amount of points as City (with City getting 4th due to a better goal difference). All whilst bedding in youngsters.
By the time Jose was done here he had us lightyears behind both. He may have won trophies, and finished 2nd, but he caused so much more damage than he brought success.
His whole philosophy is the win short term at any cost. Below is a typical Jose I drafted out on my phone whilst doing my morning business.
0. Join a top club. Say at the press conference about being the positive/ happy/special one.
1. Buy established players / names because grass is always greener on the other side.
2. Hit the ground running in a rigid system.
3. Win some trophies in season 1 - 3. ( the trophy part is becoming rarer with each adding role).
4. Realise that at the start of season 3 the players you bought are now past it.
5. publicly criticise everyone for the bad start to the season.Criticise the lack of funds (after spending half a billion). Throw players and staff under the bus.
6. The season starts bad. Now transform into full scale moody / toxic one.
7. Pick a scapegoat or two.
8. The morale is down -1000%.
9. Having always been a divisive figure among fans, now 90% of fans have had enough. Only that small Jose cult still fully support him.
10. Get fired.
11. Take a break.
12. Join a new club and at the press conference say you are the, “refreshed one”.
0. Join a top club. Say at the press conference about being the positive/ happy/special one.
1. Buy established players / names because grass is always greener on the other side.
2. Hit the ground running in a rigid system.
3. Win some trophies in season 1 - 3. ( the trophy part is becoming rarer with each adding role).
4. Realise that at the start of season 3 the players you bought are now past it.
5. publicly criticise everyone for the bad start to the season.Criticise the lack of funds (after spending half a billion). Throw players and staff under the bus.
6. The season starts bad. Now transform into full scale moody / toxic one.
7. Pick a scapegoat or two.
8. The morale is down -1000%.
9. Having always been a divisive figure among fans, now 90% of fans have had enough. Only that small Jose cult still fully support him.
10. Get fired.
11. Take a break.
12. Join a new club and at the press conference say you are the, “refreshed one”.
Tuchel and Guardiola I agree with but tbh I much preferred watching Spurs brand of football at times than Liverpool. Maybe it’s my bias but I see Pool as a more workmanlike side than Poch’s Tottenham who had some of the most entertaining games of the past 5 years.
Like @top1whoisman said, the timing is because he had an interview shortly after playing them
https://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/i/9...tikk-etter-cupbragd-de-har-forandret-seg-helt
He discusses more than Mourinho there.
I think if you take Klopps entire body of work, his team's in general have played some of the most breathtaking football of the past decade.
I think he's sacrificed a bit for defensive pragmatism in the last 18 months or so though. But as the Anfield tie against Barcelona showed, he can get them switch it on when he wants (which he did without both Salah and Firmino)
I feel Jose can still do alright at Spurs, not the heights of his younger years, but maybe a trophy next season.
Poch built a solid Spurs team and really pushed them forward, there is no denying this. But some things I still scratch my head at as someone that caught games occasionally. Im sure a Spurs fan could break it down a lot better than me buttttt.
Away at City, press hard, push forward and try and score. Lose 2-0, Liverpool away, same thing, same result, ad infinitum. Did the dood have a plan B? Dembele really carried that midfield torch in the physical battle and they have never replaced him. And as great as he was, he was not a patch on Modric, who has been the fulcrum for the RM midfield for the last, what? 7 years? For a good reason.
Props to Poch, he did really well with the resources at hand. Just sometimes I think a less swashbuckling, albeit more sobering/boring watch was the better approach to game management.
I think Jose excels at this, he just needs to instil in his team a more swashbuckling approach on occasion.
Poch built a solid Spurs team and really pushed them forward, there is no denying this. But some things I still scratch my head at as someone that caught games occasionally. Im sure a Spurs fan could break it down a lot better than me buttttt.
Away at City, press hard, push forward and try and score. Lose 2-0, Liverpool away, same thing, same result, ad infinitum. Did the dood have a plan B? Dembele really carried that midfield torch in the physical battle and they have never replaced him. And as great as he was, he was not a patch on Modric, who has been the fulcrum for the RM midfield for the last, what? 7 years? For a good reason.
Props to Poch, he did really well with the resources at hand. Just sometimes I think a less swashbuckling, albeit more sobering/boring watch was the better approach to game management.
I think Jose excels at this, he just needs to instil in his team a more swashbuckling approach on occasion.
So, less swashbuckling is needed... but with more swashbuckling...?
Got ya... I think.
For what? Thats crazy. One of the best posters around here even if he is a Spurs fan.he’s banned
He lost his shit in the rugby world cup thread.
Wow. Didnt see that coming. Always seemed reasonable comparable to the Glastons of the Caftard-world. Must have been a total meltdown to not just warrant a threadban.
Glaston mainly just look to troll though.
Rugby? What on earth happened to lose your rag about rugby ffs?
... About rugby?
It was an epic meltdown to be fair to him, not sure how much of it was parody really, think he knew he was going down so just went down swinging.
iirc he basically crowned England champions and greatest team ever after the semi-final, then they lost to SA
it was fantastic viewing
Yes, you've made it really clear that that's what you think.
I've wondered what things would have been like if we'd just done what Mourinho wanted a few years ago -- bought a defender, got William, got rid of Pogba and Martial. Remember the good old days, when all the 'fans' wanted Martial to take 6 weeks paternity leave at the start of a new season?
It would have been an absolute nightmare and set us back a further 3 years and if anyone has to tell you that then you are clueless.
Is not clear to me if Amadaeus supports Pochettino.
He IS Pochettino.
He's starting to Jose already. 5 CBs against Burnley to ensure they don't lose.
Five centrebacks against Burnley. Must be sending a message to Levy.
Christ that is ugly. He might get a result, but 5 cb against burnley? Mourinho is the antithesis of a progressive manager. Good time to be a Spurs fan.
I disagree. They had great interplay, movement, controlled passing, diagonals, intensity and aggression, players seem to always have high footballing iq, attacking impetus and much more. You must have only started watching his side during the poor forms where psychologically factors impacted onfield performances.
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But we're set back at least 3 years anyway....what did we gain?
Think he means a further 3 years back, on top of the initial 3 years. Imagine having Willian and Perisic in the side
Didn’t want to answer any prematch questions so resorted to walking away.