Absolute gold this guy
Roberto di matteo and Chelsea team of 2012 come to mind.Worse teams and coaches have reached the CL final... It's not the proof you think it is
That strong agenda against Mourinho is so pathetic. Really, I read this forum in 2017 and there were same cliches like "He's a dinosaur coach", "puts always defensively ", "toxic" and blah blah blah. I don't know another manager who gets so much hate. Sometimes I wish to block a half of users because I'm so sick of endlessly repeating stamps about him.
You may not like his style and vision of football, but you can't assume he and his tactics are negative just because you like possesion style and all that stuff. There are different styles in football which makes it so attractive. Football would be as borring as shit if all teams played alike. And, moreover, nobody should play as you like. It has always been about different visions and tactics from italian catenaccio to dutch total possession.
The myth about him destroying all the clubs he manages is annoying too. Jose hasn't managed us over the year and we saw ourselves even at worse position. None of our problems were fixed and the team was weakened even more after his dismissal. Surely, he made his mistakes as any other manager, although he brought much more positive to the club.
Call me Jose fan boy or whatever you like. I don't care. Someone had to say this. It's really getting annoying to read posts and tweets full of stupid myths and mantras about him which ignore his achievements and reality overall.
I mean, yeah, he should have been out on his arse that night but unfortunately, that wasn't his lowest moment - he sank to unprecedented depths next season.Why Mourinho was not sacked straight after the Sevilla disaster is beyond me. That was his lowest moment as United manager..
Why Mourinho was not sacked straight after the Sevilla disaster is beyond me. That was his lowest moment as United manager..
Kind of agree. All the people saying he should of been sacked after that surely want Ole sacked as we are wayyy worse now than under Mourinho even when he was trying to be sackedWhy would we? We were still having a fairly decent season and it was kinda nice to be (somewhat) involved in a title race. He kept us relevant that season - we've been beyond horse shit in almost every other season.
I long for the days when losing to Sevilla was a disaster.Why Mourinho was not sacked straight after the Sevilla disaster is beyond me. That was his lowest moment as United manager..
He was "toxic" both in Chelsea and here by the end because he wasn't properly backed after all he did for clubs. Actually, he was betrayed here and there by the board. In our case he won 2 trophies, managed to take us to CL twice in a row which didn't happened since Fergie times and raised the expectations (compare shaming him for defeat from Sevilla (which was beaten then by Bayern only 4-5 down) on 1/8 stage and tolerating Ole's perfomances and out of the CL zone while opponents nearly give us it as a gift). His 2nd season he took the 2nd place with so much deadwood and lead us to the F.A. Cup final being overcritisized from everywhere just because City had an outstanding record season. Which shadowed great work he did. Many tried to make it look like he absolutely failed his 2nd season, though he didn't. He got nearly as much points as it was needed some previous seasons to become a champion. "He wasn't good enough" as they compared him to Pep's City who got 100 (!) points that season. Now they tell Ole's good because Liverpool has this run. Such a hypocrisy.Have you never witnessed how toxic he is when things arent going his way? Did you see his Sevilla presser where shat all over our club? Did you see him going borderline psycotic when he had chelsea near relegation?
He was "toxic" both in Chelsea and here by the end because he wasn't properly backed after all he did for clubs. Actually, he was betrayed here and there by the board. In our case he won 2 trophies, managed to take us to CL twice in a row which didn't happened since Fergie times and raised the expectations (compare shaming him for defeat from Sevilla (which was beaten then by Bayern only 4-5 down) on 1/8 stage and tolerating Ole's perfomances and out of the CL zone while opponents nearly give us it as a gift). His 2nd season he took the 2nd place with so much deadwood and lead us to the F.A. Cup final being overcritisized from everywhere just because City had an outstanding record season. Which shadowed great work he did. Many tried to make it look like he absolutely failed his 2nd season, though he didn't. He got nearly as much points as it was needed some previous seasons to become a champion. "He wasn't good enough" as they compared him to Pep's City who got 100 (!) points that season. Now they tell Ole's good because Liverpool has this run. Such a hypocrisy.
Instead, Mourinho wasn't let to buy all players he wanted and sell all he wanted. No secret he didn't want to use Martial, but that transfer was blocked and he had no choice but play with him again. I think Jose should have been given a full carte blanche after his 2nd season. The board also should have backed him, not Pogba and co during that conflict. It was a bad idea to give players a power to change manager whenever they want.
As for that Sevilla speech if it's about how many times we were knocked out of the CL since 2011 he just told obvious things. Our perfomances there started to decline since 2011 and that was mainly Glazers to blame for their mismanagement and economy mode which started even in 2008-2009. Isn't that an obvious thing that he confrontated with the board, not with the fans and the club?
He was "toxic" both in Chelsea and here by the end because he wasn't properly backed after all he did for clubs. Actually, he was betrayed here and there by the board. In our case he won 2 trophies, managed to take us to CL twice in a row which didn't happened since Fergie times and raised the expectations (compare shaming him for defeat from Sevilla (which was beaten then by Bayern only 4-5 down) on 1/8 stage and tolerating Ole's perfomances and out of the CL zone while opponents nearly give us it as a gift). His 2nd season he took the 2nd place with so much deadwood and lead us to the F.A. Cup final being overcritisized from everywhere just because City had an outstanding record season. Which shadowed great work he did. Many tried to make it look like he absolutely failed his 2nd season, though he didn't. He got nearly as much points as it was needed some previous seasons to become a champion. "He wasn't good enough" as they compared him to Pep's City who got 100 (!) points that season. Now they tell Ole's good because Liverpool has this run. Such a hypocrisy.
Instead, Mourinho wasn't let to buy all players he wanted and sell all he wanted. No secret he didn't want to use Martial, but that transfer was blocked and he had no choice but play with him again. I think Jose should have been given a full carte blanche after his 2nd season. The board also should have backed him, not Pogba and co during that conflict. It was a bad idea to give players a power to change manager whenever they want.
As for that Sevilla speech if it's about how many times we were knocked out of the CL since 2011 he just told obvious things. Our perfomances there started to decline since 2011 and that was mainly Glazers to blame for their mismanagement and economy mode which started even in 2008-2009. Isn't that an obvious thing that he confrontated with the board, not with the fans and the club?
I long for the days when losing to Sevilla was a disaster.
Don't confront a fanboi with vague things like facts.
He was "toxic" both in Chelsea and here by the end because he wasn't properly backed after all he did for clubs. Actually, he was betrayed here and there by the board. In our case he won 2 trophies, managed to take us to CL twice in a row which didn't happened since Fergie times and raised the expectations (compare shaming him for defeat from Sevilla (which was beaten then by Bayern only 4-5 down) on 1/8 stage and tolerating Ole's perfomances and out of the CL zone while opponents nearly give us it as a gift). His 2nd season he took the 2nd place with so much deadwood and lead us to the F.A. Cup final being overcritisized from everywhere just because City had an outstanding record season. Which shadowed great work he did. Many tried to make it look like he absolutely failed his 2nd season, though he didn't. He got nearly as much points as it was needed some previous seasons to become a champion. "He wasn't good enough" as they compared him to Pep's City who got 100 (!) points that season. Now they tell Ole's good because Liverpool has this run. Such a hypocrisy.
Instead, Mourinho wasn't let to buy all players he wanted and sell all he wanted. No secret he didn't want to use Martial, but that transfer was blocked and he had no choice but play with him again. I think Jose should have been given a full carte blanche after his 2nd season. The board also should have backed him, not Pogba and co during that conflict. It was a bad idea to give players a power to change manager whenever they want.
As for that Sevilla speech if it's about how many times we were knocked out of the CL since 2011 he just told obvious things. Our perfomances there started to decline since 2011 and that was mainly Glazers to blame for their mismanagement and economy mode which started even in 2008-2009. Isn't that an obvious thing that he confrontated with the board, not with the fans and the club?
All of our managers have been backed. I've said this before and I'll say it again, the criticism Ed receives is way over the top. Even now, Ole has pretty much had everything he wants yet fans want it both ways. They want to criticise Ed for all our transfer failings yet absolve Ole of this whilst blaming our previous managers for the exact same problems.
That said, I'd take Joses season over most of the seasons gone by since SAF retired.
He's lost it. The Spurs forum is not defending him either. It'll be a mini-miracle if he sees his contract out.So where the feck are all his fans who had a crack at United when we sacked him? Or think that he could still do a job?
He's cooked, finished, done. Dinasour of the modern game with a fecked mentality.
He'll be gone in under two years. It's going to be hilarious watching him destroy their club too, the toxic little prick.
Hmm where have I seen that before?
Feel bad for Spurs fan. I love a manager with a progressive footballing philosophy. They sold one with one of the most progressive in football for a manager with an outdated reactive one. I would hate that, but I guess their fans would rather win ugly than play beautiful football.
That is also why I am not the biggest fan of Ole or Mourinho despite the positive result they bring. I want to watch football and enjoy the performance we put on the pitch and not ride our luck. Anyway, I m not going to write of Mourinho yet, because this type of philosophy can produce positive result and I won’t be surprised if next season, Mourinho wins a trophy with it.
Would have enjoyed if squishy mcsquishy was still here. Everything he wanted happened and it is failing miserably. I would have loved seeing him try to move the goalpost
Hmm where have I seen that before?
In his defense wanting one thing doesn't automatically mean you want another.Feel bad for Spurs fan. I love a manager with a progressive footballing philosophy. They sold one with one of the most progressive in football for a manager with an outdated reactive one. I would hate that, but I guess their fans would rather win ugly than play beautiful football.
That is also why I am not the biggest fan of Ole or Mourinho despite the positive result they bring. I want to watch football and enjoy the performance we put on the pitch and not ride our luck. Anyway, I m not going to write of Mourinho yet, because this type of philosophy can produce positive result and I won’t be surprised if next season, Mourinho wins a trophy with it.
Would have enjoyed if squishy mcsquishy was still here. Everything he wanted happened and it is failing miserably. I would have loved seeing him try to move the goalpost
Poch left them in this mess? He didnt leave 18 months ago, he left them as a broken club.Feel bad for Spurs fan. I love a manager with a progressive footballing philosophy. They sold one with one of the most progressive in football for a manager with an outdated reactive one. I would hate that, but I guess their fans would rather win ugly than play beautiful football.
That is also why I am not the biggest fan of Ole or Mourinho despite the positive result they bring. I want to watch football and enjoy the performance we put on the pitch and not ride our luck. Anyway, I m not going to write of Mourinho yet, because this type of philosophy can produce positive result and I won’t be surprised if next season, Mourinho wins a trophy with it.
Would have enjoyed if squishy mcsquishy was still here. Everything he wanted happened and it is failing miserably. I would have loved seeing him try to move the goalpost
Hmm where have I seen that before?
Scratched out a title at Chelsea during an awful period for the PL with all the competition in transition but he has never been the same since Madrid. His attitude is disgusting.
Feck him, no Utd fan should have defended him after Sevilla.
Yea, he wouldn’t want to come face to face with his past post on here as there is receipt of my brilliance and his ignorance. Whereas, he and many Spurs fan blamed Pochettino, I blamed the lack of quality players in their team and their board. Page 249 of the serious look at Pochettino thread and onwards can see my Nostradamus like effect.SquishyMcsquish was recently unbanned I think, but perhaps chose not to return on principle
In his defense wanting one thing doesn't automatically mean you want another.
He could have wanted Pochettino out but still not wanted Jose in.
You think Pochettino wanted to go a summer window without spending? He was vocal about the ambition of the club and how they can’t continue to make top four or win champions league on just the back of his brilliance without significant investment.Poch left them in this mess? He didnt leave 18 months ago, he left them as a broken club.
Without a summer window his successer was always going to struggle but at least Poch had Kane and Son to (unsuccessfully) mask his deficiencies.
Now Jose has a paper thin squad full of playwrs who checked out prior to his arrival who has to depend on a mediocre defence since his attack has been obliterated by injuries.
We cant write Jose off yet since he hasnt had a chance
We still played with zero width and for some reason Lucas can’t buy a game and Sissoko is now a right back.
Any new manager would do better than Poch is CURRENTLY managing. I don’t expect us to reach any CL final soon but certainly we’re so much better than he’s currently making us look with his silly decisions and obvious favouritism to certain players.
Doesn’t matter if we have Ndombele right now because Pochettino’s coaching is leading to us getting dicked by Brighton. We could have Patrick Viera in his prime at CM and would struggle with the current atmosphere at the club. Players don’t want to play for the man any longer.