Jose Mourinho Sack Watch

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I have no idea what's going on. He isn't the same manager he was before, I can tell you that.

He is the exact same manager. You have been through this once before. This time, Roman may not pull the trigger so quickly though. Klopp is on a year long sabbatical.
 
Has he fallen out with the players,Roman again or the players cant be arsed ?

I have no idea.

I don't think he's fallen out with Roman though.

I reckon it's a combination of a few things; not as many characters in the team (Lampard, Drog gone, Tery nearly done), good players from last season being shit (Matic, Fabregas, Costa), not signing anyone or playing any kids so some are knackered.
 
I have no idea.

I don't think he's fallen out with Roman though.

I reckon it's a combination of a few things; not as many characters in the team (Lampard, Drog gone, Tery nearly done), good players from last season being shit (Matic, Fabregas, Costa), not signing anyone or playing any kids so some are knackered.
Are Chelsea fans prepared to give him another season if this one turns out bad ?
 
I'm no fan of Jose's but it seems a bit unfair that he should be under such pressure after winning the League so recently; surely his employers should at least give him the entire season?
 
I'm no fan of Jose's but it seems a bit unfair that he should be under such pressure after winning the League so recently; surely his employers should at least give him the entire season?

Abramovic is not known for being ruthfull.

Ruthfull is the opposite of ruthless, I've just decided.
 
I'm no fan of Jose's but it seems a bit unfair that he should be under such pressure after winning the League so recently; surely his employers should at least give him the entire season?
Agree completely. And you know football is in a sad state when a Madrid fan agrees with being a bit more lenient towards managers.
 
They will do nothing if he is sacked. Quite as a bunch of mice like the last time. John Terry moaned for about half an hour and that was it. They are nothing without the owner and they know it.
 
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I'm no fan of Jose's but it seems a bit unfair that he should be under such pressure after winning the League so recently; surely his employers should at least give him the entire season?
Absolutely he shouldn't and if it was most other managers I would feel sorry for them

But it's Jose
 
Seems to me Jose suffers from a managerial form of ADD. New projects are what he needs to get the best out of him. When he steps into a new job, he has the greatest effect but his mind games & tactics eventually have diminishing returns. I'd think his 'Golden Age' when it comes to longevity at 1 club was when he had SAF, Rafa, & Arsene to cut & parry with, but now he's a bit bored with holding the hoodoo over Arsene, while Pellegrini & LVG are at best medium term foes and are less likely to engage in verbal & mental games as the above.

When he was in the picture to possibly be SAF's successor, I thought he might've grown past it, but apparently it seems he hasn't. Heck, even Pep seems to have a similar propensity in that once he's finished his 'revolution', it's time to find new challenges. Let's be honest, Mou has basically conquered most of his challenges, and all that is left is the Bundesliga & maybe a World Cup. Maybe a run with PSG might tickle his fancy, but I doubt it.

His current bad run with Chelsea is a bit of a shock, though. Not sure if he's lost some players or whether his tactics have been too rigid & other teams have caught on to him, but Chelsea should have more than enough to get better results.
 
Come now people, right this way: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/jose-mourinho-sack-watch.409313/


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Abramovic is not known for being ruthfull.

Ruthfull is the opposite of ruthless, I've just decided.

:lol: Turning into a good thread this!

On topic though, I can't see him being sacked again. They'll win on Saturday surely. Was Hazard actually dropped though? Could it be there's a rift forming?......mayhaps a cheeky bid in January? ;)
 
they is something there with john terry...reminds me of his dealings with Casillas at Madrid....and Costa is suspended in the Epl yet he deems both of his other strikers not even good enough for the bench. Who will he play?

Almost like he wants out and is forcing Roman's hand.
 
Seems to me Jose suffers from a managerial form of ADD. New projects are what he needs to get the best out of him. When he steps into a new job, he has the greatest effect but his mind games & tactics eventually have diminishing returns. I'd think his 'Golden Age' when it comes to longevity at 1 club was when he had SAF, Rafa, & Arsene to cut & parry with, but now he's a bit bored with holding the hoodoo over Arsene, while Pellegrini & LVG are at best medium term foes and are less likely to engage in verbal & mental games as the above.

When he was in the picture to possibly be SAF's successor, I thought he might've grown past it, but apparently it seems he hasn't. Heck, even Pep seems to have a similar propensity in that once he's finished his 'revolution', it's time to find new challenges. Let's be honest, Mou has basically conquered most of his challenges, and all that is left is the Bundesliga & maybe a World Cup. Maybe a run with PSG might tickle his fancy, but I doubt it.

His current bad run with Chelsea is a bit of a shock, though. Not sure if he's lost some players or whether his tactics have been too rigid & other teams have caught on to him, but Chelsea should have more than enough to get better results.
Have he been spotted in the dead of night, stealing smoothies from the fridge and playing around with little Martial, Rooney and Bastian figures?
 
Shit football when you're winning is acceptable*
Shit football when you're losing, making the same mistakes - overrun in midfield, Ivanovic playing like an 80 year old, no energy in the team and never trying to change for better is sackable.

*relative to Chelsea Football Club
 
Funny how people were joking that Jose's "3rd year" curse would yet again be the case this season after their slow start, and that he'd get the sack.

If they lose against Southhampton at the weekend I wouldn't be surprised if Abramovich laid down the hammer.
 
Are Chelsea fans prepared to give him another season if this one turns out bad ?
No Chelsea fan wants him gone, there is too much to lose from him leaving. However, this situation is shit and baffling so a lot of fans are obviously upset about it as there doesn't seem to be a clear answer to the problem.
 
I don't think Abramovich will sack him. Likewise I think Mourinho is pretty pragmatic. If he doesn't potentially have something better to leave for - if he was even willing to do so - he'll hang tight. I don't see him getting any of the big jobs in England in the near future, unless City come to the conclusion they can't get Pep. Liverpool would be a big step down but maybe the sort of environment he'd like. Barca or Madrid don't look likely. Bayern, from the soundings in the press, don't fancy him. That leaves Italy or PSG.
 
If we don't win on Saturday, I reckon he might go.

I doubt it mate, but if things don't pick up i definitely see him leaving in the summer. Which would surprise me a bit as i thought he might be ready to settle at Chelsea for a while.

He seems to lose motivation after a few years in the same place. If he does leave next stop would be PSG or back to Italy you would think.
 
They will do nothing if he is sacked. Quite as a bunch of mice like the last time. John Terry moaned for about half an hour and that was it. They are nothing without the owner and they know it.
The squad is in a much poorer state than the one Jose left first time round.

Avram squeezed out a Carling Cup/CL final appearance and a title race which went to the final day. Still, that was partly because Lampard, Drogba, Essien, Terry, Cole, Cech, et al were at the peak of their powers.
 
He is the best manager probably ever when it comes to doing a short term job. He is the best appointment for teams that need something urgently like Real Madrid and their inability to deal with Barcelona under Pep, Inter and their shortcomings in the CL under Mancini and Chelsea trying to establish themselves and take the next step under after Ranieri or the second stint after they'd gone few years without doing particularly well in the league. Building a team or a dynasty requires a footballing vision or philosophy, something that he is not really invested in. His only philosophy is to win through hard work, organisation and intensity. The problem with that is that he pretty much needs new hungry players every 2 or 3 years since the common driving factor in his successful teams is that they were particularly desperate for success that they did not enjoy before him. Can he get Abramvic to supply him with a new core of players that regularly? Can he do that with anyone really? He doesn't seem to stimulate players from a footballing point of view and without that, he really can't keep successful players on his side for that long.
 
I doubt it mate, but if things don't pick up i definitely see him leaving in the summer. Which would surprise me a bit as i thought he might be ready to settle at Chelsea for a while.

He seems to lose motivation after a few years in the same place. If he does leave next stop would be PSG or back to Italy you would think.
Staying till summer is only possible if he is allowed to and I don't see Abramovich tolerating this for the next three months, if their league form stays indifferent he is gone sooner that we expect. There is also the added urgency of a certain Herr Klopp and the possibility of Liverpool beating them to him, thereby leaving them with Ancelotti as their option, may hasten things a bit. League form is key, imo.
 
Why can't be face Chelsea this weekend? I reckon we'd batter them.
 
If he gets sacked itll be because he keeps playing Ivanovic. Every single game he has cost us at least a goal.
 
Actual Chelsea fans are. Internet fans under the age of 14 or those with very short memories probably want him gone yesterday.
I think you should give him a chance to find a way out of this rut because your team is too good not to launch a successful push for a top three finish, no matter how bad it becomes. The big advantage is next season you'd have a chance for real growth because the squad would have gotten closer as a result of going through this together and the players you will add will come into a settled environment. The problem is if he has lost the players....
In all honesty this result is being made too much of because of the poor run you've endured in the league, it's not that big a deal because any team can lose at Porto.
 
Away to Kiev next round. Could realistically find themselves 4 points behind the top 2 with 3 to play.
Not easy if they don't wake up soon
 
Staying till summer is only possible if he is allowed to and I don't see Abramovich tolerating this for the next three months, if their league form stays indifferent he is gone sooner that we expect. There is also the added urgency of a certain Herr Klopp and the possibility of Liverpool beating them to him, thereby leaving them with Ancelotti as their option, may hasten things a bit. League form is key, imo.

Of course if they keep playing this badly Roman could swing the axe, but i was more getting at if they don't win anything or at least challenge for the title he will resign or get sacked.

I can't see them being this bad all season, but i also don't see them competing for the title either. Hence why i think if he does go it's more likely to be in the summer.
 
Klopp? Ancelotti? Ferguson?

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Reminded of the Jamie Redknapp for United thread.
 
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