I'm not saying he needs to.
Jose Mourinho Sack Watch
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I'm not saying he needs to.
John Stones value goes up every time Chelsea play.
Didn't you write this "I'm saying he needs to prove that he is better than Mourinhio" ?
Funny though all this is, Mourinho has a point when he suggests sacking him would be stupid. They're in a bad spot right now but he is still a) one of the best managers on the planet and b) their greatest ever manager. If ever someone deserves some patience you'd think it would be him...
I commented during the game that they remind me of Moyes' United. Awful football and a team completely devoid of any confidence. Even if the slightest thing goes wrong they pack it in.
ok I did say that
. I meant that if he wants to be the best manager in the world with no one doubting that, then he needs too, but I'm not sure he cares tbh.I thought this a few weeks ago.
The funny part is, they're doing worse than we did on current pace
Hidink, Rafa,Grant and Di Matteo all done a good job.
Good thing about this is it takes all the heat off Brendan aswell. Even if Liverpool get beat tomorrow nobody will notice
I'm afraid the only way to save his face after this will be seppuku in front of all the journos and fans.
Don't Chelsea usually go through worse form when Winter comes along?
It's going to be hilarious if they become even worse.
It's going to be hilarious if they become even worse.
Paying the price for a shocking transfer window. Don't care how good you were the previous season, you can't get away with not even buying one player that would instantly improve your starting eleven. Same mistake Moyes made. Another matter altogether whether the manager was to blame or the club failed to sign the players he wanted.
8 points from 8 games warrants the sack for any top 4 manager.
Jose to pool,Rodgers to Chelsea
Surely the mark of the greatest managers si their ability to get things going when times are tough, not when everything is rosy.
For all the talk of 'what happened this season', they've been getting worse since February last season. This isnt an 8 game slump, its about 20 games long so far. They won the league because of how they started out last year, and the rest of us were too shite to catch up when given the chance, a truly great manager would have it sorted by now.
LVG did.
Jose to pool,Rodgers to Chelsea
Haha.. he'd never go to a poor team in a challenging league because he'd be shown up.
EDIT: I'm talking about José going to Pool - need to clarify that because both teams are poor.
Why doesn't Baba Rahman play instead of constantly playing an out of form Ivanovic and a Right Back at left Back?
I think we'll be in for him also.
Their head-to-head record says something.
another fake result added to mourinho's collection
This Premier League that is being shown up by clubs from Eastern Europe on a weekly basis, get real man this league has lost it's lustre. Even if Pep never comes into this league but continues to rack up the titles in Germany or Spain he will still be up there with the best. Over the past three years the PL hasn't been the yardstick of excellence.
Mourinho, to me, has failed to grow tactically and his teams have always involved utilizing the brilliance of one gifted attacker and shutting up shop looking to hurt teams on the counter. He has never been brave enough to take himself out of that M.O that's served him so well. In comparison to Pep and the level Pep get's his teams reaching, the tactical innovations and being successful whilst doing this, Pep more than edges it for me.
Imagine he got sacked and took over City next season?
No doubt the German league and Spanish league are better, but I think there can be no doubt that the premier league (perhaps because of the lack of quality) is much more competitive and probably therefore harder to manage a club in.
What about the barren spell SAF had before the emergence of Ronaldo/Rooney? We looked in serious decline back then, it was far worse than the few months bad form Chelsea are going through (in which they did actually win the league).
Adversity is where the great managers shine but, as SAF proved, even the great managers need time. We went a few years without a league title and still stuck by our manager. It's only just October, the notion of sacking Mourinho now is ludicrous.
Ferguson never had meltdowns like this, he was always in total control of himself and all his players.
He got more time because he was twice the manager Mourhino is
Well Wenger has had eleven years and gone through one ten year plan too many. Fergie's barren spell did not involve being this clueless, it wasn't with an expensively assembled side and it was just us not being good enough to win the league - we were never this shit. Wenger, LvG and Mourinho (now) would take that barren spell if offered today.
How much will it cost Abramovich to sack him? Didn't he recently sign a new long contract?
Ah come on, lets not overreact to Chelsea's current situation. They just won the league last May and (bad though they currently are) I think Mourinho is right to say they can easily finish inside the top four again this season if they pull their shit together. I seriously doubt any top manager would think that's a worse situation to be in than going several years without a title.
I'm certainly sure LVG wouldn't take that barren spell if offered to him as it would mean his time here was a total failure.
A couple of third place finish and league runners up plus an FA Cup is not something to be scoffed at. That is what Fergie's barren spell was. As for Jose, yes they won the league in May but their poor start shows no sign of turning around and instead of keeping his shit together he is the one lashing out blaming everything from the medic to his players. They have already lost so much ground and further losses will just compound the situation yet there are still to face dangerous sides like West Ham and Spurs even discounting Liverpool and ourselves. How much more whining and sniping can their players take before the situation escalates to open civil war like it was in his last season at Real?
If he is this bad in the press one can only imagine how he is in team meetings and on the training ground.
Bollocks.
It's a terrible run but they won the league last season ffs. If that doesn't earn you time to turn things around then feck me modern football is down the shitter.
Well they did buy Pedro I guess.
Ferguson got more time because Abromovich wasn't his boss. You can't honestly think his unsuccessful spell would be tolerated by such a trigger happy owner.
And also Mourinho's meltdown deflects the attention away from how poor Chelsea were, whether that is intentional or not I don't know, but the last thing players low on confidence need is the media on their backs.
They can still go for the title if they sort things out. 10 point gap with 30 games to go can be overturned. Their players need defensive solutions and probably to keep things tight looking to steal the win, they need to do that until they get their confidence back, take it one game at a time.
Last season Rodgers had from 17 matches only 22 points and Liverpool were 10th in league and then they went on a run which should have seen them take fourth had it not been for an incompetent manager. If Mourinho can get his Chelsea team to recover like that, they will keep going until the end and could still realistically get 80 - 85 points which would probably be enough to challenge.
It all depends on how he reacts now, what solutions he finds to his problems and ultimately whether he can find a way of putting points on the board to help improve the confidence of his players, when they have that back and the momentum builds then it's back to winning ways.
No matter how bad it gets, I don't think he gets sacked unless they miss top 4. It's a bit ironic though, because I remember during pre season, he said 5 clubs are competing for the title and one will play Europa next season. I bet he didn't think his club might be the one finishing 5th, now it's a realistic possibility.
I think around 30 millions
Cause they are trading players. Buy low, loan out, sell higher. They don´t necessarily buy players to actually play them at Chelsea.
I still think it's too early to talk about missing out on 4th.
3 wins and they'll be back on song and breathing down a lot of nervous teams necks.
There's 30 games to be played and they've too much quality to fail.
3 wins and they'll be back on song and breathing down a lot of nervous teams necks.
There's 30 games to be played and they've too much quality to fail.
If they drop points to Villa then he might have to start worrying
that explains why they have zillion players out on loan.
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