Yeah, i don't get it either.
Jose Mourinho Sack Watch | Sacked per 19-04
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Massive wanker, who doesn't love a Jose sacking. I'd question any United fan who loves this cnut
To be fair though he was asked stupid question and he has to defend his player. He's not going to be honest saying I prefer Spurs to sign Bruno instead of Lo Celso.
Well you never know with Mourinho
Tanguy is his “the former manager left me with such a poor squad” scapegoat.
I mean his “this popular player is toxic and turned the whole team against me, who wouldn’t follow my instructions even though I’m a winner” scapegoat.
He is finished as a manager a long time ago, before he came to us.
With Mourinho (certainly this version) there's a trade off. Given how much money he asks for, how results oriented he is and the controversy he causes he can only justify himself by getting one of the big two trophy's.
True, if Moyes and LVG didn't exist.
Surely he'll be laughed out of town if he finishes below this Arsenal?
All the shite 30 year old cloggers that he buys (or tries to) too.
He sucked the joy out of the team I love. Absolutely detest the man, he was never fit to be Man Utd manager. Spent a fortune, didn’t coach is players, and then didn’t take any personal responsibility for his mistakes (of which there were so many). The fact is he’s just a washed up, egotistical nightmare and he would have driven this club further into the ground. Just an absolutely shocking manager and Ole has already proven himself to be 10X better for me.
LVG >>>> Mourhino
Agreed!
What platform is Spurs tv even on?
It's strange that he keeps taking these jobs, if he thinks all the players he inherits are so crap.
This is the end for him in English football. No club of the stature he would consider worthy of him will want him now. I see a spell at an Italian side, one of the chasing pack beneath Juve. Or possibly a generously compensated couple of seasons somewhere like Fenerbahce or Galatasaray.
This is the end for him in English football. No club of the stature he would consider worthy of him will want him now. I see a spell at an Italian side, one of the chasing pack beneath Juve. Or possibly a generously compensated couple of seasons somewhere like Fenerbahce or Galatasaray.
When he gets sacked by spurs he will walk away with £10-15m, that’s why he takes these jobs.
He's a club legend at Inter. Yet even they went for Juventus legend Conte over him last summer when he was free. He's pretty much finished at any remotely top job - the next step down for him is to end up managing West Ham (which will probably happen).
Looks like the classic Jose cycle is shrinking and the highs are getting lower.
Surely can't last more than half a season more there.
Surely can't last more than half a season more there.
His post match interview is great.
I’m largely indifferent to Jose but he got us finishing the highest since 2013 and won two trophies. I knew what I was getting when we hired him and anyone expecting anything different was delusional.
Moyes is still the worst for me. Someone who can take a championship winning team down to 7th and feck up royally in the transfer market is the reason why Jose Mourinho is given a four year contract with Spurs and David Moyes is given 18 months with West Ham.
To be honest he’s already done everything in club football anyway, so I can see him possibly taking the Portugal job when it comes up and that’ll be it for him.
I really dont think he works as a good manager for the established giants. He’s the ultimate manager to have if you’re the club just below the giants and are starved of the silverware they typically pick up, hence why Chelsea, Inter Milan and Porto are perfect clubs for him.
Moyes is still the worst for me. Someone who can take a championship winning team down to 7th and feck up royally in the transfer market is the reason why Jose Mourinho is given a four year contract with Spurs and David Moyes is given 18 months with West Ham.
To be honest he’s already done everything in club football anyway, so I can see him possibly taking the Portugal job when it comes up and that’ll be it for him.
I really dont think he works as a good manager for the established giants. He’s the ultimate manager to have if you’re the club just below the giants and are starved of the silverware they typically pick up, hence why Chelsea, Inter Milan and Porto are perfect clubs for him.
In what world?
Let's not go hyperbole now, every manager post Fergie has been a clear and obvious upgrade over the last, LVG was better than Moyes but LVG spent a lot of money on shit players whilst also selling those who were no worse ability wise but at least knew what it took to play for United and then Mourinho came in won 2 trophies in his first season and then got us our highest points tally in his second. Yes we shithoused our way to all 3 of those achievements but it was still better than LVG
Are you not perfectly describing Spurs there?
Because he wanted to buy Perisic and sell Martial. I dislike him because he would have sold Pogba. He probably would have said no to Bruno. I am so delighted he wasn’t backed and rightly so.
Stuff like this is why he is hated. Imagine convincing half the fanbase that the second biggest transfer spend and the largest wage bill in football wasn't being backed and a valid reason to turn the entire club toxic. Even worse were the people he had spreading his nonsense and vilifying anyone who didn't buy their saviour's beliefs. He didn't handle his exit with grace then spent his time out of football pointing to our struggles as his vindication. It's perfectly natural that we return the favour and point to his struggles as our vindication for sacking him
I don't know if I agree with that characterisation of LVG vs Mourinho. LVG was attempting to build the club some sustainable success from the ground up, continually hamstrung by his own god-awful man management, bizarre tactical decisions, and a hideous string of bad transfers. Mourinho attempted to win however he thought he could from day one, and there was never any sense of a plan with a future longer than his traditional three seasons. Mou won more trophies but if you had to stick with one of them for ten years, LVG would leave you in a better position by the end. Mou would probably have murdered everyone and burnt down Old Trafford by then.
Football is a wonderful game. Here is a fun fact for you:
Jose at Spurs (19/20 PL SEASON) 31 points in 19 PL games = 1.631 pr. game
Ole at United (19/20 PL SEASON) 52 points in 32 PL games = 1.625 pr. game
If you're operating on data only, Ole should be scared.
Jose at Spurs (19/20 PL SEASON) 31 points in 19 PL games = 1.631 pr. game
Ole at United (19/20 PL SEASON) 52 points in 32 PL games = 1.625 pr. game
If you're operating on data only, Ole should be scared.
The biggest problem JM has now is the players don't respect him and stop playing for him
time for him to hang his note pad up and run to the hills with another colossal payoff
time for him to hang his note pad up and run to the hills with another colossal payoff
Tbf Ole has gotten a good amount of criticism for it on here.
JM inherited a team that were CL finalists the year before, Ole inherited a team devoid of ideas and confidence
That looks worse for Mourinho considering Ole's managed more than 1.5 times that Mou and has a near identical record. Mourinho inherited a Champions League runners-up squad while Ole has had a Europa League team.
Hate is too strong of a word. When he was appointed the excitement levels was high and was expectations that United could at least challenge for the title again.
Instead United ended up with a washed up version of Jose, football was awful to watch and that includes his highlight at the club (Europa league success)
By the end things had gotten so toxic, he had fallen out with pretty much everyone and he wanted to get sacked months before he was.
What's the stats from the same amount of games? From when Jose took over?
Dunno. Don't care. I've been pro Ole all the time. Fact is, the ins and outs have been poor between Fergies exit and Oles intro. Since Oles appointment the ins and outs have been very very good.
20 games
Ole: W10 D6 L4 G35 (3rd best) GA19 (2nd best) 36 Pts (3rd)
Mou: W9 D4 L7 G33 (4th best) GA27 (better than only 5 teams) 31 Pts (6th)
Mourinho is spot on when asked have you spoken to the referee and answers, "Which one? The one on the pitch is not the referee."
He’s happy in London so not ready for any moves yet. When it’s time, in a few years, he’ll be off back to portugal where he can buy a nice plot, about 1/2 the country, with all his money.
You would have to ignore the building process going on at United with the youngest squad in the league that is clearly improving while Spurs are getting worse.
While I didn’t like anything about what Mourinho was doing, at least Man Utd felt like a big club under him. Under LVG United were sliding away to nothingness.
I assume his next step will be Portugal manager, with Ronaldo having just retired so he’ll have an excuse when they don’t compete for things.
Quite the opposite, things were starting to come together towards the end. We started playing better, we won the FA cup and the youth was the heart of the project. Under Jose we were slipping away into nothingness he tried to ruin our team, he would have sold our best players and left us with an ageing team.
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