Jose Mourinho - Manchester United manager ever?

Would you want Jose Mourinho to ever manage Manchester United?

  • Yes

    Votes: 179 21.9%

  • No

    Votes: 640 78.1%
  • Total voters
    819
  • Poll closed .
If he were to become our manager, wouldn't you think he'd make some changes to his style?

Regardless, it's not like we're much far from previous title winning Chelsea sides (entertainment wise).

I wouldn't mind him being our manager.
 
Uzz said:
I'm still bitter about that disallowed goal :mad:

On an interesting tangent - had that goal not been disallowed, would Mou have mouved to Chelsea and become what he is today?
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If Porto had been eliminated in that game - not necessarily the case if the goal had been ruled in - I don't think the timeline would have been the same, nor necessarily the clubs he eventually came to manage, but I'm 100% sure he'd have gone to the upper echelons of football. He was just too good.

Fair to remember we would be just one goal behind anyway, and being the superior team - and certainly better than Manchester United on both games - no reason to believe we wouldn't have chased after the game just like we did and wouldn't have been able to get a result. It probably makes more sense to say "had Barthez not fumbled that ball stupidly", because that was the true defining moment of the game, our late winner.
 
Brwned said:
Admire him? Bit of an understatement, Paz! You practically worshipped the ground he walked on at a point. Fanboyism just ain't what it used to be these days. No loyalty in the game any more.
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err umm....can you blame me (at the time), he was the nailed on obvious choice to be our manager post SAF based on his success.
 
Arruda said:
If Porto had been eliminated in that game - not necessarily the case if the goal had been ruled in - I don't think the timeline would have been the same, nor necessarily the clubs he eventually came to manage, but I'm 100% sure he'd have gone to the upper echelons of football. He was just too good.

Fair to remember we would be just one goal behind anyway, and being the superior team - and certainly better than Manchester United on both games - no reason to believe we wouldn't have chased after the game just like we did and wouldn't have been able to get a result. It probably makes more sense to say "had Barthez not fumbled that ball stupidly", because that was the true defining moment of the game, our late winner.
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Porto would've needed two goals in one half though to go through. That decision definitely played a huge factor in Porto going through.
 
acnumber9 said:
Porto would've needed two goals in one half though to go through. That decision definitely played a huge factor in Porto going through.
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Not really, we would have needed one goal in 45 minutes. Then we'd see what would happen in extra-time. If Porto managed to score one when losing 1-0 there's no reason to think we'd be unable to score one when losing 2-0. For what it's worth, Porto made a whole lot more of attacks and shots (in any of two games), so it's not unrealistic to say we'd have a very fair chance of winning the tie regardless.

I always felt United fans overly state the importance of that incident. It clearly was a terrible mistake, but in the end it's just another one mistake. Ruled out goals, wrong penalties or sending-offs happen probably in something like half the ties in the Champions League. I can understand the frustration, but it's not like you were robbed of a win in the last minute. You were still at an advantage after that, and in the end you lost to a team that was clearly superior over both legs, and that confirmed being a great team by winning the competition and having some of their players among the best in the world at the time.

Plenty of far more outrageous stuff have happened.
 
Arruda said:
Plenty of far more outrageous stuff have happened.
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This is true. Chelsea - Barca 09 and Utd - Madrid 13 were both more outrageous.

I was disappointed but thought well played to you guys in 04. Fecking seething after that 2nd leg at OT for days
 
Porto were poor in that second leg though. Howard had very little to do and what he did he fecked up, coupled with the disallowed goal then I fail to see how Porto could score twice. It took an outragous error for them to score once and maybe with a two goal cushion Howard wouldn't have been so nervous
 
cyberman said:
Porto were poor in that second leg though. Howard had very little to do and what he did he fecked up, coupled with the disallowed goal then I fail to see how Porto could score twice. It took an outragous error for them to score once and maybe with a two goal cushion Howard wouldn't have been so nervous
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We were far poorer than in the first leg, but we still attacked more and shot more than United. Yeah, I don't remember many clear-cut chances (unlike the first leg, where we could have come out with a lot better than 2-1). My point was more that we would still be only one goal behind, and would still be disputing the match. The particulars of "what if" are a bit like the Hitler thread in the generals, who the feck knows how the game would have developed. I just don't think that the idea that the match would be sealed and won with United winning 2-0 is in any way a fair assumption. It would more probably be similar to what happened anyway, Porto attacking more but with little end product and United producing a dangerous counter every now and then.
 
Arruda said:
Not really, we would have needed one goal in 45 minutes. Then we'd see what would happen in extra-time. If Porto managed to score one when losing 1-0 there's no reason to think we'd be unable to score one when losing 2-0. For what it's worth, Porto made a whole lot more of attacks and shots (in any of two games), so it's not unrealistic to say we'd have a very fair chance of winning the tie regardless.

I always felt United fans overly state the importance of that incident. It clearly was a terrible mistake, but in the end it's just another one mistake. Ruled out goals, wrong penalties or sending-offs happen probably in something like half the ties in the Champions League. I can understand the frustration, but it's not like you were robbed of a win in the last minute. You were still at an advantage after that, and in the end you lost to a team that was clearly superior over both legs, and that confirmed being a great team by winning the competition and having some of their players among the best in the world at the time.

Plenty of far more outrageous stuff have happened.
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Utd had managed to score as many as Porto by that stage too. With home advantage and a two goal lead then Utd were heavy favourites. As far as offside calls go it's one of the worst I've seen. He was played onside by about three players.
 
acnumber9 said:
Utd had managed to score as many as Porto by that stage too. With home advantage and a two goal lead then Utd were heavy favourites. As far as offside calls go it's one of the worst I've seen. He was played onside by about three players.
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It was a two goal lead, but still only one goal advantage in the tie. And there's no way Mourinho's Porto would come back from half-time on a defeated mood. That team didn't achieve what it did by accident. It was still an open match by then, is all I'm claiming. Obviously a decision like that coming your way is always a big advantage, I'm not questioning that. I can hardly imagine not happening to every team every now and then though, I saw my team on both sides of it plenty of times and think it's a pretty normal thing in football.

I reckon it's one of the worst offside calls I remember as well. I'd even call it inexplicable.
 
All I remember from that home leg against Porto is that we should have been out of sight and then the calamity that was Porto's goal and Mourinho running down the touchline like an attention whore.
 
Mutter Merkel said:
...Mourinho running down the touchline like an attention whore.
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He pioneered those scrolling pitchside adverts. Thing is, he was advertising his availability to other clubs.
 
Mutter Merkel said:
All I remember from that home leg against Porto is that we should have been out of sight and then the calamity that was Porto's goal and Mourinho running down the touchline like an attention whore.
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That's the kind of thing that made Porto fans feels great though. I really think it was genuine happiness. A young manager overly celebrating a last-minute win at Old Trafford is hardly something to criticize. Particularly in these away goal situations where you go from losing to winning without the "cooling off" draw period.

I don't know how well known this is, but it all changed very quickly though. He blew that relationship at the end when we won the thing.

He barely celebrated the CL victory at all and was having a terribly smug attitude when addressing the fans and press in general. Very quickly changed from a staunch defender of the team to basically ignoring the historical moment that was happening. There were some rumours going around that he was hitting on the girlfriend of an important and dangerous "ultra" fan (by text messages!), which led to him receiving threats from some of our more radical organized supporters group. These, already knowing he was tied to Chelsea (far before the end of the CL), had no doubts when deciding on who to take side with.

All those were just rumours, but rumours in a small city spread easily, and I don't remember opposing ideas, neither an alternative explanation for Mourinho's sudden change of attitude towards Porto in general. Even if we assume the above is true, it's very poor form from him to become smug with the overwhelming majority of fans due to personal problems with a dangerous minority with whom he decided to mess with at his own risk.

It wasn't enough to ruin the moment, but left an unnecessary bitter taste. In the years that followed he rarely ever mentioned us along with Inter and Chelsea in several interviews, when mentioning the places where he'd been "happy", and unless he was specifically counting his titles he didn't mentioned us either as an important stage of his career, and as giving him the platform to become what he his (after both Sporting and Benfica rejected him in different contexts).

He's not as fondly remembered by many Porto fans as what his success would lead you expect. And the reason he wasn't outright hated at some point, well, that's because he was too damn good, and gave us far too much in terms of success. Fortunately he seems to have gotten over whatever went wrong here, and in these last few years has thrown fewer digs and a more commending words at us.

Yeah, a prima donna. Even here, there had to be some drama. I admire him though, and give him the pass that the genius always get. He was nothing short of spectacular, and not just talking about terms of results. He was bloody good in the press room. Bolder and bolder claims each time, and always delivering them. And that was from the start, even before winning a single game.
 
His time to manage us was immediately following SAF's retirement. He would've been perfect to bridge the chasm left by Fergie. That time has passed.
 
No thanks the way he has alienated himself from the medical team and to his players is incredible. If I was to give an answer last season then I would say yes, but something has went horribly wrong and he doesn't seem his usual self. Even at the beginning of the season he wasn't the usual Mourinho, and the way he constantly has digs at Wenger is pathetic.

I don't know if the Falcao signing was sanctioned by him or maybe because he couldn't re-inforce properly in the summer has irked him this season but I wouldn't want him at the club. Ryan Giggs should get a shot next, he learnt from Fergie for years and now in closer quarters with LVG.
 
He isnt a shell of the Mourinho first stint at Chelsea. He's been round too many corners especially with the press. There isnt an ounce of excitement when he's on the TV anymore its just all moaning and its all abit sad.
 
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