His default set up is a bore draw away and a win at home. I think the underdog setting was only fully on show during this 2nd Chelsea stint. Before that, the only instance when he went fully negative beyond reason was when he got trashed 5-0 by Barca. Played Khedira and Lass Diara iirc. Inter was pretty dominant against Bayern in the '10 final and his Chelsea team of 04-07 outplayed every team in the league at home.
His default set up is a bore draw away and a win at home. I think the underdog setting was only fully on show during this 2nd Chelsea stint. Before that, the only instance when he went fully negative beyond reason was when he got trashed 5-0 by Barca. Played Khedira and Lass Diara iirc. Inter was pretty dominant against Bayern in the '10 final and his Chelsea team of 04-07 outplayed every team in the league at home.
He is one of the most decorated manager in the last few decades.
A proven winner.
Based on his ability win trophies (and I happen to like winnings) : Yes.
A proven winner.
Based on his ability win trophies (and I happen to like winnings) : Yes.
Since SAF retired, my outlook of football has changed quite a bit. I would have been delighted with Jose replacing SAF, but right now, not a chance.
Right after Fergie I would have said a definite yes. I was actually disappointed at the time when he didn't get the position. After all that's gone on recently it's a no.
I suppose another way I'm starting to think about it is, would an (what seems to be) unchecked meltdown and dragging of the club occur at ours with some solid personalities in the background (Woodward, Giggs, Charlton, SAF even, etc)?
I honestly thought the only time would be right after Fergie for two seasons (given his whole rotation of doing well for two seasons, third season syndrome etc)
Ideally he would have come in, kept us in CL and competing (maybe won a few trophies), whilst I think he would have spent better than we had. Meanwhile still having somebody like Giggs as his assistant to take over from him.
Right now, I see no point in trying to go for him. If we arent giving it to Giggs next, id rather see us go for somebody like Pep.
Ideally he would have come in, kept us in CL and competing (maybe won a few trophies), whilst I think he would have spent better than we had. Meanwhile still having somebody like Giggs as his assistant to take over from him.
Right now, I see no point in trying to go for him. If we arent giving it to Giggs next, id rather see us go for somebody like Pep.
What happened to all the people on here who were aggressively adamant he was destined to successfully manage United? And who'd act like tits if anyone suggested it might not actuallly be the greatest idea? I mean it was to the point that the main thing Moyes used to get stick for on here was not being Mourinho, despite there being a massive array of legitimate Moyes criticisms to choose from.
I mean it was a LOT of people towing this line...either there's been some major tune changing or some kiind of plague has wiped them all out.
I mean it was a LOT of people towing this line...either there's been some major tune changing or some kiind of plague has wiped them all out.
Only if it is were choice between Mourinho and someone lacking qualifications like Moyes or Giggs. Otherwise, he is too much hassle and seems unable to sustain success more than a couple of years. I had thought he might mellow upon his return to England but it seems a leopard can't change its spots.
The last few months have changed people's minds. Not exactly rocket science. If he gets back to winning trophies this poll would read differently once again.
I reckon if he'd come in after Fergie we'd have ended up how Chelsea are now within a year or two. The signs were there at Real.
Mourinho is suited for certain jobs and United is definitely not one of them.
Mourinho is suited for certain jobs and United is definitely not one of them.
Yeah but the reasons given are relating to him acting like a dick...but he hasn't acted like anymore of a dick in the last few months than he has at any point in the last 5 years.
This was my issue with him from the begining...imagine him and his ego at United. It'd be horrific, and what's happeing at Chelsea (i.e. ego overload/melltdown) would have likely taken a LOT less time to happen here.
It wasn't that unpredictable really (although the losing every single week is a bit extreme...and funny). He's unstable even when he's being kept in check.
Van Gaal keeps his narsicism way more under control and even he's borderline at times.
Not unless the alternative is some one like Moyes. The last few months have been shambolic for him and swayed a lot of opinions. He is a clown but at least was good at the results thing. But this time, on top of the shenanigans, results have been abysmal.
Like you said, he was always a dick, so I'm pretty sure his recent results have a lot to do with it as well. There's plenty of people who would be happy to put up with him being a dick if it meant winning trophies in exchange. Being a dick while losing however, gets old quickly.
Have never wanted him, will never want him. It's partly about the type of football he plays, even when he's got a superb team at his disposal. Chelsea showed what they could do when they really went for it in the league last season, and yet once again Mourinho didn't have the balls to do the same thing in the CL and they ended up being outplayed by inferior sides.
But more than that, it's about what a massive, embarrassing thundercnut he is. We don't need the United manager to be some loveable neutrals' favourite, but I'd like to be able to respect him.
But more than that, it's about what a massive, embarrassing thundercnut he is. We don't need the United manager to be some loveable neutrals' favourite, but I'd like to be able to respect him.
There was no sign at any previous club that Mourinho could manage a team down to just above the relegation places in mid-November.
He is volatile and his behaviour leaves a lot to be desired (something that never hugely bothered me either way) but every team he has ever managed has competed for the top honours.
Same here. I think he's too big a cnut to become a United manager.
I wouldn't go for him right now, because it's clear he's struggling at Chelsea and I think his mind's in a bit of a bad place in regards to football. He's going through an incredibly poor patch.
I would be for it if the circumstances were better in the future though. People are saying he's declined, and it's true that he hasn't matched his earlier success in his last two jobs, but some great managers have more barren periods. There were probably plenty of people claiming Fergie was past it between 2003 and 2006, yet he responded by providing us with one of our greatest spells as a club.
His character and ability to constantly get into trouble do concern me, especially in more recent times, but as a manager he remains one of the best around. I'd probably opt for Guardiola before him now, whereas it'd have been a lot more even before, but I'd still take Mourinho if he begins to improve again and can re-find his earlier days success.
I would be for it if the circumstances were better in the future though. People are saying he's declined, and it's true that he hasn't matched his earlier success in his last two jobs, but some great managers have more barren periods. There were probably plenty of people claiming Fergie was past it between 2003 and 2006, yet he responded by providing us with one of our greatest spells as a club.
His character and ability to constantly get into trouble do concern me, especially in more recent times, but as a manager he remains one of the best around. I'd probably opt for Guardiola before him now, whereas it'd have been a lot more even before, but I'd still take Mourinho if he begins to improve again and can re-find his earlier days success.
No. I'd sooner have Mata in the team than him as manager.
Has he ever got a chance to try it?
No class, abysmal at integrating youth into the starting XI, fixated on "work ethic", has a blind eye on potential.
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Quite curious to those saying "recent events have changed your mind about having him as United manager"....why only recent events? Tbf, his behavior is nothing new and "recent". Yeah, it seems his just lost (most of) his dressing room for the first time I can recall, but we've known Jose to be a douche for a long, long time.
In fact, after he poked Vilanova in the eye - that's the event that totally put me off him.
In fact, after he poked Vilanova in the eye - that's the event that totally put me off him.
Mourinho is like the managerial version of Suarez. If he's yours, you love him, if he's not, you can't stand him. Jose has been showing a lack of class since he joined the league in 2004 but it was tolerated and even applauded in some quarters as he was winning things. Now things are going tits up, the same things that people loved him for are now being used as a stick to beat him with.
Personally I'm not a fan of his as I think he's an arrogant, self centred cnut but I also concede that those are two of the characteristics that have made him as successful as he's been.
Personally I'm not a fan of his as I think he's an arrogant, self centred cnut but I also concede that those are two of the characteristics that have made him as successful as he's been.
Not right now to replace LvG.. But when LvG's tenure ends, I wouldn't mind Jose as our manager.. Now that Klopp is out of question and Pep might end up at City.. I think he would be the best available manager when LvG retires..
He'll go to United - match made in heaven with the unlimited money and constant moaning about referees. 
Love winning but don't think he would represent the club properly, so no. Maybe all of his recent shenanigans are him trying to get fired so he can take over at United when LVG is gone 
Honestly I can't believe that anyone would want Mourinho as Manchester United manager, he is literally against everything this club believes in. My biggest issue with Mourinho is that he is always the centre of attention at whatever club he's at, it's always all about him in the media. Ask yourself how often you see stories about Chelsea and how many more are Mourinho related. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE is bigger than Manchester United and if we went with Mourinho then all that would change and we would give in to one of footballs greatest viruses.
I must admit I've always thought that. I also believe that he has a destructive personality that is detrimental to any club he manages.
I was outraged when the board appointed Moyes instead of Mourinho, who I really wanted to see succeed Ferguson, but now I wouldn't touch him with a proverbial ten foot pole. He's a toxic human being who will throw anyone under the bus. I don't want him anywhere near Old Trafford.
The man has accomplished everything at the club level. He should manage the Portugal national team and retire a few years after that.
The man has accomplished everything at the club level. He should manage the Portugal national team and retire a few years after that.
He never aspired to.
It's a tough one to answer, if he's not lost the plot completely then.... Yes, I still would take him.
Most of all it will be interesting to see how he recovers from this absolute meltdown, I think its just a matter of time before hes sacked from Chelsea at this rate, they don't look like recovering at all, you wonder if he'll be able to bounce back at his next job or if he's finally lost the plot for good, his mental state and antics have become increasingly unstable each passing season.
Most of all it will be interesting to see how he recovers from this absolute meltdown, I think its just a matter of time before hes sacked from Chelsea at this rate, they don't look like recovering at all, you wonder if he'll be able to bounce back at his next job or if he's finally lost the plot for good, his mental state and antics have become increasingly unstable each passing season.
Pretty sure the results have had a part to play in that. If Chelsea were still around top of the table, a lot more people would be more lenient towards judging his behaviour which has been cnutish but nothing too different from before.
Possibly. I certainly don't watch as much of Chelsea as I do Utd. What isn't up for debate is that Mourinho is more successful.
Spot on id say.
That isn't as clear-cut as you might think. Van Gaal has won league titles everywhere he's gone. We'd be the exception to the rule were he not to win the league with us. he has also been to three champions' league finals, (2 with Ajax and 1 with Bayern) and has won it once with Ajax. Mourinho will end up being more successful, in my opinion.
His teams still play the same way they did when he first arrived in the EPL. He hasnt evolved his football, its one part of the problems he is having now. Would be pretty gutted if he ended up at Utd.
Would never want an eye-gouging cnutface in the United job.
Funny how the poll results have changed since the question was asked a year or two ago, considering Mourinho has not acted any different at Chelsea than he did at Real Madrid.
Even with all the crap that has gone at Chelsea and Real, I would still take him at United. Tactically I think he's the best manager out there and you can't agrue with his winning percentage. I would hope he would mellow with age and learn from his mistakes and that the United Board could controll him better than others have done. But than again there were people who thought they could control Hitler.
Even with all the crap that has gone at Chelsea and Real, I would still take him at United. Tactically I think he's the best manager out there and you can't agrue with his winning percentage. I would hope he would mellow with age and learn from his mistakes and that the United Board could controll him better than others have done. But than again there were people who thought they could control Hitler.
Why not the Mourinho of Porto 02-04?
No !! never ever want him.