Maybe that's why Jose had a hard on for Dier all summer. We could drop one of the CBs and place Dier in the centre cover / sheid role.
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Maybe that's why Jose had a hard on for Dier all summer. We could drop one of the CBs and place Dier in the centre cover / sheid role.
I wouldn't mind that at all.
So we had 27% possenssion, 5 shots, 4 on target which became 3 goals. While Arsenal had 73% possenssion, 19 shots, 14 on target.
If anyone had a masterclass tonight it’s clearly DDG not Jose.
If anyone had a masterclass tonight it’s clearly DDG not Jose.
The number of shots conceded won't be to his liking, but everything else is pure Jose. Efficient.
Very few of those shots were threatening, except for the spills. I admit de gea was great, but Mourinhos system made it so that Arsenal took many shots outside of the box that couldn’t really go anywhere.
Not to add this isn't our first choice defence, with Bailly I don't think we would have conceded as much. A lot of the chances we conceded because we were too slow to close them down when outside our box. Bailly is very proactive in that manner and would have pushed forward and cut attacks down.
Jose looked proper annoyed when they scored because we didn't close them down.
The stats don’t look great but an early 2 goal lead is always going to make them put the pressure on and shoot at any opportunity.
We conceded more chances that I’d have liked but generally the shape and defence was very good. Attacking wise Arsenal are almosy as good as anyone, and their form is good.
Still think that extra bit of quality to keep the ball and make more of our counters will be the difference in other big games and ultimately to City walking away with the league.
No need for that, a difference in opinions. A huge difference, but it doesn't matter.
And I couldn't be possibly angry after today's result.
And given the way we played today we should be even more unhappy with that Liverpool game.
Today's game should be a reminder to some that we have some really good players and a brilliant squad. We can and should play top level attacking football on a regular basis.
He was looking very sharp today it has to be said.
"loving the beauty of the grass" 
most of you here will have the city match to attack mourinho and feel vilified..just relax,go take a coffee or something.
it's mourinho day today,wasnt boring and my heart was racing throughout.the team isn't perfect but coming along nicely..
it's mourinho day today,wasnt boring and my heart was racing throughout.the team isn't perfect but coming along nicely..
Thinking of what we might do with new wingbacks and new ACM/CM next season then we'd be scarier. It has worked well for us with that formation when playing away.
I’d say at least half of Arsenal’s shots or ‘chances’ came from our players not clearing the ball or rebounds.
Jose’s tactics were bang on. We shot ourselves in the foot, but the 3 man defence, the Pogba and Lingard press and the counter were down to tactics - and that won us the game. What happened back there, that was self-inflicted. But with De Gea in net, you can get away with it!
Jose’s tactics were bang on. We shot ourselves in the foot, but the 3 man defence, the Pogba and Lingard press and the counter were down to tactics - and that won us the game. What happened back there, that was self-inflicted. But with De Gea in net, you can get away with it!
I don't think they played through our midfield at all. All of their attacks were built from wide and with crosses into the box.
Very little came through the middle.
Very little came through the middle.
We were comfortable with 2-0 nil lend and Arsenal started going out all attacking, we don't seem to try attack after 2 goals so we sit back and invite them to attack whilst waiting for counter-attack opportunity. They were more desperate and struggled to score and they throw out everything at us.
It's not clearly DDG, it's Jose masterclass. If you watch Chelsea games, you would know, they did the same thing but only scored one goal per 8 shots on target.
Is it just me or he seems to have a problem with mutv's main journalist ?
Arsenal went for the jagular much earlier than anticipated which lead to them seemingly looking like they are all over us. Think back, How many clear chances did Arsenal create in the first half?
I bet he was impressed with finally being able to counter attack.
I bet he was impressed with finally being able to counter attack.
Jose's philosophy/approach/mentality/system/players is never about midfield.
Defense > Attack > Midfield
Our attackers delivered today. A great win. Defense is as usual.
Defense > Attack > Midfield
Our attackers delivered today. A great win. Defense is as usual.
Got to credit Jose for the Martial Lukaku Lingard combo and sticking with it. That front three have combined wonderfully - especially with Pogba back. Even though Pogba's out for the next few games, I hope we continue to start those three as currently they're our biggest threat offensively.
The perfect performance to silence all of the PlayStation fans
Real football is all about winning forget the flicks tricks and all of that nonsense
If you need a fix for flix and trix just watch pogba for our third goal. Skill and composure when it mattered
What a game
Yes 3 very clever players
Lukaku gets a lot of grief but anyone who has listened to him speak will know he is on a mission to improve all aspects of his games always. His work for the second goal was awesome
Martial is a phenom. He could literally be anything he wants to be. His touch for that second goal was sublime. You will not see a better touch all season to put someone in on goal all year. Lingard never broke stride
Lingard is also such a clever lad. His off the ball running has always been excellent. If his name was lingardinho people would be saying he is worth 90million
The team is what is important not the individuals
But when Conte used the same tactic to beat Pep at the Etihad last season to cop the same result, you lauded him as a tactical genius.
Some of you don’t deserve to support Man Utd.
Especially when he had Mhkitariyan, Mata and Rashford also to select from.
Makes a mockery of the early season Rashford vs Martial favouritism debate too: he will simply pick the best players in form that suit his tactics to win a game.
The new debate now is why is Martial being subbed.
He's already explained it. Martial's level drops off the longer he plays. Since he sees him in training and has physios assessing this part of his game I'm sure he's making the right call.
Can't fault him today, didn't set us up as negatively as liverpool we were pressing them pretty agressively. I was annoyed that we ceded possession adter our 2nd goal, but our 3rd was a typical Jose sucker punch goal. Line up and subs were fine IMO.
Absolutely agree with this. Couldn’t have said it better. This is classic Jose.
The new debate now is why is Martial being subbed.
Well, I think it’s been working as subbing him off while he’s still hungry for minutes is keeping him fired up and hungry for the next start
Of course and it's a great 3 points to get however its far from the sort of performance that warrants waxing lyrical about the manager. I've seen tactical master classes from Jose(Inter vs Barca 1st leg, Inter vs Chelsea both legs, Inter vs Bayern in the final, Chelsea vs us in 05/06) to name but a few and that was from it. Just seems to me the desperation to serenade our manager with praise is clouding people's judgement on football matches.
Show me evidence of me lauding him for that performance and you might have a point. btw Chelsea were better than we were yesterday in that match, Conte himself didn't deserve praise though, more Costa and Hazard for making the best of what was developing into a bad situation.
Didn't get to watch the entire game, but I liked what I saw. Would have liked to see us keep the ball a bit more, but I guess that was always going to happen when we went 2-0 up so early and Arsenal being in such great form. Great goals though.
If we can beat City once or twice as we at least keep the points gap to no more than six thus giving us a continual outside shout of overhauingl them and winning it I'll be very happy and pleased with Mr Mourinho's work.
I find it baffling that many people are unhappy about the way we played in that game. Arsenal was enraged and possessed. We were two goals up in less than 15 minutes. They were at home. They were mad. They came at us with everything. They threw the kitchen sink. Sure we could have done better but I am very proud of the way we defended. People talk as if De Gea is not part of the defence or part of the team. We cannot slate the defence and praise the goalkeeper because the goalkeeper is part of the defence. If Dave was good, the defence was good. If he did not play his part well, we would have lost. If the others did not play their roles well, we would have lost.
I also like the fact that we looked solid and compact. We always carried a threat.
And most importantly, our attack was efficient. We have a lot of things to improve but we are undoubtedly making progress. Jose deserves some credit.
I also like the fact that we looked solid and compact. We always carried a threat.
And most importantly, our attack was efficient. We have a lot of things to improve but we are undoubtedly making progress. Jose deserves some credit.
Huge, huge improvement so far on the last few seasons in all respects and Jose deserves credit.
Beat them next weekend and I might start believing we can do it. City are already looking like they're running out of steam. No team in Europe can keep up the level of performances they have for a full season.
- Old Trafford is a fortress again with every game won
- ^Achieved our longest ever unbeaten run at home
- Scoring the same level of goals at this point as we did in Fergie's last few seasons
- Managing the above with the best defensive record in the league
- For the most part playing with purpose with a couple of notable exceptions (Liverpool and Chelsea away)
- About to qualify from our group for the first time in years
- Still in the title hunt - first time we can say that at this point in the season in too long
Beat them next weekend and I might start believing we can do it. City are already looking like they're running out of steam. No team in Europe can keep up the level of performances they have for a full season.
Jose has certainly paced the team this season so far. Imo from the Christmas period onwards is when managers really earn their money, players get tired, games are coming in thick and fast, a loss of form or injuries to key players are much more influential. It's not over yet. All we can do is keep focusing on ourselves, we're having an excellent season and have improved ten fold and will continue to do so. Improving some positions in the squad this Jan or next summer will take us up another level too.
For the first time since SAF has left I'm actually confident we are making proper progress which is a positive. We aren't spending money aimlessly, all of Jose's signings have been great except Mkhi.
Mourinho’s done okay this season but De Gea’s performance against Arse has definitely swung perceptions favourably.
Do feel a bit for Jose in that he seems to keep going into these big games without important personnel, which tends to compound his negative approach.
Do feel a bit for Jose in that he seems to keep going into these big games without important personnel, which tends to compound his negative approach.
Tactically we were spot on. At 2-0 up we should be probably the best team at setting up a defensive unit and protecting a lead. It was the defenders who put in poor performances, and that would be on them IMO. They just panicked and lost composure all around.
The defenders were positionally good for the most part, the problem was that they couldnt clear their lines repeatedly. Every time a cross came in we would hoof or head the ball and it would go 100m into the air but only travel 2m on the pitch.
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