Jose Mourinho | 2017/18 Assessments | Poll Added

[Borden]

There is definately something going on behind the scenes. The team are looking more and more like they aren’t playing for him.

At the very least, he needs to bring in some attacking coaches. Our attackers don’t look coached at all.

They haven't for years tbf. I wonder what the feck they are doing in training, because more often than not they look like 11 strangers out there. No cohesion at all. Just standing still with their cocks in their hands waiting for the ball. No movement, no initiative. Fecking infuriating to watch.

No wonder we were at the bottom of the total-kilometers-run-chart last season.

 

[Dobbs]

They haven't for years tbf. I wonder what the feck they are doing in training, because more often than not they look like 11 strangers out there. No cohesion at all. Just standing still with their cocks in their hands waiting for the ball. No movement, no initiative. Fecking infuriating to watch.

No wonder we were at the bottom of the kilometers run-chart last season.

In the past it's been a lack of talent.

Now it's to do with selection, both choice of player and position. There's little consistency, left wing and full back constantly changed. No understanding built. We don't have a right hand side cos we play a slow, small No.10 there.

All finished off with a dose of safety first management.

 

[Kaos]

He’s the wrong manager for this club.

Mourinho should never have said all that bollox in a French paper about United not being his last job.

Remember the effect it had on the team when Fergie announced his retirement plans? After that, he never spoke of his future again or even implied that there’d be an end at some point.

The correct response from Mourinho would have been to say he’s absolutely committed to United and in love with the club.

This would have ignited supporters and players alike.

He’s not a United manager, sadly.

Think I agree with this. Think he's too much of a mercenary. Granted, almost all top flight managers are nowadays, but he could be less blase about it. The style of football too .

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

The game has passed him by.

There were a few instances where 1 Huddlesfield player(him alone) pressed our back 4 and we resorted to hoofing it out instead of calming playing it out from the back.

And our attack is devoid of any creativity in the opponent's box. Hazard eluded to this last season where he said Conte focuses more on attacking patterns than Jose does.

We've been awful going forward for a while now. In fact, despite our terrible results at times last season, I think we looked much better going forward and were just shit at finishing.

 

[Stacks]

The game has passed him by.

There were a few instances where 1 Huddlesfield player(him alone) pressed our back 4 and we resorted to hoofing it out instead of calming playing it out from the back.

And our attack is devoid of any creativity in the opponent's box. Hazard eluded to this last season where he said Conte focuses more on attacking patterns than Jose does.

We've been awful going forward for a while now. In fact, despite our terrible results at times last season, I think we looked much better going forward and were just shit at finishing.

to be fair we have scored loads of goals this season

 

[AshRK]

I do agree that we need to change our tactics. Jose must focus more on our attack and not just think about defending. It's so sad that he will trust a smalling to attack than trusting a martial. Thats how he is and he must change that. But honestly I cannot see him changing, he will put more time on his defence and will just forget about attack.

 

[alanjohnson]

I'm liking everything he's said post match.

Huddersfield didn't give our players any time on the ball..
our players were sleep walking.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

to be fair we have scored loads of goals this season

We have.

But will it continue?

We need Pogba back asap.

 

[owlo]

Not sure why everybody is blaming him for today. 5 out of the 7 players he brought in were unavailable, Bailly and Rojo are injured, and it's hardly Mous fault that Jones hurt himself.

Two terrible individual mistakes put them 2 up early, and we were always playing catch up from there. Add that to the fact that half of our players then forgot how to pass a football when the pressure was on, and there you have it.

He can only work with what he's got. Herrera was terrible and constantly in others positions, young and valencia couldn't deliver a single quality ball, and the less said about Mata and Lindelof the better.

He tried different ways to score but unfortunately the players just didn't execute. Very different from Anfield where he just didn't bother trying.

 

[Stacks]

We have.

But will it continue?

We need Pogba back asap.

I don't think he is the magic wand, however he does give us more cohension in the middle and make us better in possession but he is not Ronaldinho to Barca or Kaka to Milan.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

I don't think he is the magic wand, however he does give us more cohension in the middle and make us better in possession but he is not Ronaldinho to Barca or Kaka to Milan.

With how our overall quality is, I'd argue he is.

We badly need top quality in this team.

 

[Treble]

I'm liking everything he's said post match.

Huddersfield didn't give our players any time on the ball..
our players were sleep walking.

They comfortably outrun us. Which is partly down to Jose as we were in the bottom half of the distance covered table last season too. Work rate isn't great which is one of the most surprising things for me. I've always had the impression that his teams work very hard.

 

[JohnnyKills]

In fact, despite our terrible results at times last season, I think we looked much better going forward and were just shit at finishing.

Agree with this. The football we played in drawn games against the likes of West Ham, Bournemouth and Burnley was much better than the stuff we've been playing this season.

We've been able to physically batter opponents into submission but apart from a couple of exceptions (West Ham, CSKA) we haven't really flowed at all.

 

[Sensei]

You say that but he wasn’t anywhere near ruthless enough in the Summer.

Although you could argue the only reason the Lingard’s and Herrera’s were playing today was because of injuries. Both can be decent squad players but when they start they are exposed. Herrera really isn’t good enough to start for us.

Herrera isn't a 4231 player.

 

[sammsky1]

I'm liking everything he's said post match.

Huddersfield didn't give our players any time on the ball..
our players were sleep walking.

Yes. he nailed it. Its what I also suspected and wrote in other posts.

Think the players felt abit sorry for themselves with their workload and thought they could just turn up and win. Sham.

 

[shield]

I have a lot of complaints about the type of football he is getting us to play, but the main thing is, why is persisting with mediocrity like Young, Lingard, Mkhi.

At Chelsea, he deemed Schürrle, Salah, Eto ,Baa even Lukaku to not be up to the standard. But here, he has persisted with all these average players, and is letting underperformers like Mkhi play match after match.

At Chelsea he binned underperformes and replaced them with excellent players. Here, he has not been so ruthless. The activity in the transfer market was not that aggressive and up to the mark. Upon that we seemed to have overspent on a dud in an area where we already had many options.

The team looks far too defensive. This is something he does when he is not confident about the forwards. We were like that last year , but he has still not gained the confidence to make us play differently.

Something does not seem right. Is he not being backed by the board ??? Just that I had hoped that he would clear out all the average so so players , or atleast bench them , implement a bold new counter attacking style, but he has kept on persisting with mediocre players and has made us go ultra defensive so that it is easy for these players to stick to a game plan.

Think we are in for a rough time if Pogba if not back soon. Jose's does not seem to have any clue about how to organize an attack. The best he can do is throw in more defenders and try not to make us concede .

 

[Dobbs]

I'm liking everything he's said post match.

Huddersfield didn't give our players any time on the ball..
our players were sleep walking.

Agree with that. Share his frustration in a player admitting we couldn't be arsed without explaining why.

 

[Brophs]

It's not really a complaint related to him particularly, as most managers seem to do it, but it'd be great if he stopped talking about negative results as something that happened to him, rather than being something he directly contributed to. The old "A manager can't kick the ball into the net for them" argument. After all, if a manager accepts praise when a team he sets up wins, then he can't stand back from defeats in this sort of detached way, as if it has nothing to do with him. For better of worse, a manager is largely responsible for creating the environment in which the players either succeed or fail.

 

[goin4glory]

Now Casemiro is better than Pogba too? Sure mate. And De Gea is the 7th best keeper around. Because trophies, and any excuses we can make for Jose.

I love how you read like 3 paragraphs of my post and pull out the most obscure strawman possible as if it strengthens your argument.

 

[pascell]

We needed Fellaini today and missed him badly. When they pressed our midfield, he'd have lapped it up and played his normal game, pressure doesn't phase him and that is the mentality we needed and still need.

 

[Jed I. Knight]

Is this the start of his Manchester United meltdown? I don't think his lack on introspection post match, and blaming everyone else reflects well on him, considering his antics this past week.

He was always going to leave with a meltdown, alienating everybody on his way out. I was, and still am, hoping it'd happen after he'd managed to win some trophies of substance.

 

[Sammyjunn]

When you have good personal you do better things. Shocker!

I dont think Mourinho can do a Marco Silva/Pochettino, with limited players create a good cohesive attack, it is not his strength. Attackers rely on much individual brilliance and freedom in his system and thats no shame.

 

[goin4glory]

Silva and KDB are playing in unfamiliar positions. The manager has converted them to CM. I admit they are doing it well but a couple seasons ago Silva had been written off. I believe the manager has revitalised him and adapted him to a role that can make it work. These guys are new to the role so our midfielders have better experience there. How can KDB and Silva (2 wide attacking midfielders) be better CM than Pogba, Herrera, Matic who have done it for years and won titles in this position?
Aguero was being written off last year and regarded as a player who missed too many chances and dropped for Jesus. Many suggested he is nothing on Kane and he was also outscored by LUKAKU. Pogba is rated higher than KDB as a centre midfielder world wide.
Of the player you listed, Stones, Sane and Jesus play regular as well as the fb. Bravo, Nolito are goners, Gundogan injured, so that leaves young players and fullbacks as the ones who actually playing right now.

They also got knocked out at quarters last season, won nothing and finished 3rd...............

What a load of garbage. First of all KDB isn't a wide attacking midfielders and neither is Silva, both of them operate centrally. 2nd when did anyone write Silva off? I haven't heard a single fan here or anywhere else claim he was finished, your quite literally making things up.

Same for Aguero, the only argument was if he was suited to play in the type of high pressing team Pep likes to use, no one ever questioned his ability. Young players and fullbacks, since when was a 50m fullback something that could be disregarded as a non important signing? Walker is 27 in the prime of his career and close to a world record for a defender (he might actually be the world record) but Pep is just signing fullbacks? What type of nonsense argument is this honestly? I'd absolutely love it if Mouringo spent 100m on fullbacks and we could just sweep it under the rug like it has nothing to do with the teams performances. Let's not forget how well Pep did last season without "young players and fullbacks".

 

[Silverman]

Not Mourinho's fault today. Two mistakes that cost us simple as. Had they not happened I would have been confident they wouldn't have fought as hard for the whole game and we would have won. I am not a fan of his defensive approaches in the last two games but not his fault today.

 

[Borden]

Not Mourinho's fault today. Two mistakes that cost us simple as. Had they not happened I would have been confident they wouldn't have fought as hard for the whole game and we would have won. I am not a fan of his defensive approaches in the last two games but not his fault today.

The entire team was shite, and we barely created any chances (again). How is that not at least partly the manager's fault?

 

[Silverman]

The entire team was shite, and we barely created any chances (again). How is that not at least partly the manager's fault?

We were up against a team that literally just sat in and barely ventured past the half way line. Our creative midfielder Pogba was missing and the attackers were drowned out by the pressure. The players didn't play well but I can't see what Mourinho could have done differently. The two goal lead (mistakes) gave Huddersfield an extra step as they could see a victory over Manchester United which made it twice as hard.

 

[Stacks]

What a load of garbage. First of all KDB isn't a wide attacking midfielders and neither is Silva, both of them operate centrally. 2nd when did anyone write Silva off? I haven't heard a single fan here or anywhere else claim he was finished, your quite literally making things up.

Same for Aguero, the only argument was if he was suited to play in the type of high pressing team Pep likes to use, no one ever questioned his ability. Young players and fullbacks, since when was a 50m fullback something that could be disregarded as a non important signing? Walker is 27 in the prime of his career and close to a world record for a defender (he might actually be the world record) but Pep is just signing fullbacks? What type of nonsense argument is this honestly? I'd absolutely love it if Mouringo spent 100m on fullbacks and we could just sweep it under the rug like it has nothing to do with the teams performances. Let's not forget how well Pep did last season without "young players and fullbacks".

Silva played LM,LW,RW for city most his career with Yaya at 10 and Silva occasionally played 10/CAM but never deep CM where he is now. In fact who scored have him starting at 10 in double figures apps only twice in City career. De Bruyne also has played AMC AML AMR at City until last season and played AMC at Wolfsburg. Last season was the 1st real season he was deployed as a centre midfielder.

In terms of writing Silva off, just check his thread, same with Aguero.
regarding the fullbacks, we all know they are not worth that amount and if anything, Pep got bumped. Spurs were more than happy to sell Walker as they have adequate replacements and may not miss him much. You can get FB to do Walkers job for half the price. Only in EPL do teams spend 50m on FB. in fact only pep does.

 

[Ludens the Red]

What a load of garbage. First of all KDB isn't a wide attacking midfielders and neither is Silva, both of them operate centrally. 2nd when did anyone write Silva off? I haven't heard a single fan here or anywhere else claim he was finished, your quite literally making things up.

Same for Aguero, the only argument was if he was suited to play in the type of high pressing team Pep likes to use, no one ever questioned his ability. Young players and fullbacks, since when was a 50m fullback something that could be disregarded as a non important signing? Walker is 27 in the prime of his career and close to a world record for a defender (he might actually be the world record) but Pep is just signing fullbacks? What type of nonsense argument is this honestly? I'd absolutely love it if Mouringo spent 100m on fullbacks and we could just sweep it under the rug like it has nothing to do with the teams performances. Let's not forget how well Pep did last season without "young players and fullbacks".

Haha. I stopped reading his post when he described Silva and De Bruyne as wide attacking midfielders and that by playing centrally they are "out of position".

 

[Red-17]

With Jones out, I really hope he'll start giving Tuanzebe a proper look in starting with Swansea. He's praised him last season and when he played at the end of last season he looked very confident for such a young player. Mourinho rarely trusts youth players, but I just can't see how he can justify having Lindelof ahead of him in the pecking order. Tuanzebe is way quicker and better in one on ones. He's also very good with the ball, and his main flaws are the things you expect put of a young defend and they will likely improve. The talent is clearly there. With Lindelof, I just don't see a very talented player, and he's old enough where it's unlikely he will significantly change in that department.

 

[Stacks]

Haha. I stopped reading his post when he described Silva and De Bruyne as wide attacking midfielders and that by playing centrally they are "out of position".

when have De Bruyne and Silva been deployed as centre midfielders in their career. AMC and CM are completely different roles. Wayne Rooney will tell you that much, as will Pogba. This isn't Fifa

 

[The United]

It is not exactly wrong to say that our attacking play may have been effected because we lost pobga. But, I don't believe losing rojo and zltan has much of effect on how we play so far. And of course the elbow man.

And, if we have to talk about injuries because of our shit performances lately, i think it is a bit concerning.

Matic has been good. Ander is not exactly a shit player. At least he was not last season. It is not like we are playing kids in midfield.

Then there is mikey.

So people are now blaming about the squad. Well, the guy bought 7 players already and people are already calling out 2 of them.

The best at transfer market and all that.

Jose to me is a decent manager in transfer market as a buyer. But, realizing or using talents properly and consistently within a squad is below average for his standard, imo.

My point is maybe the squad is not exactly that bad. It is just the team that is playing his method is playing bad and he should probably adjust more or better based on the last 3 games. If he was getting the best out of it earlier this season, I suppose he should be able to do it again with a bit of personal changes.

I was having a positive thinking with our season just a week ago. Hopefully, I don't have to go thru some shit just like the last 3 seasons from oct to the end again.

 

[dichinero]

2 games and only 2 shots on target after all that money spent. Wonderful management indeed!

 

[Zoo]

There is definately something going on behind the scenes. The team are looking more and more like they aren’t playing for him.

At the very least, he needs to bring in some attacking coaches. Our attackers don’t look coached at all.

This is baseless bollox.

 

[Bruno Marques]

United squad has been shit for some years. Mourinho arrives gets 4 players in the first year, adds 3 more on the second season.

From those 7 players , 3 are injured , 1 looks like a flop (and it shouldn't be cause i saw him last year at Benfica and he doesn't look the same) and 1 is out of form. 2 are still playing good.

But for some reason, since money was spent on this players the rest that are on United for some years should be playing better/should be better because there were money spent on other players because it's logic, because that's how it works. LOL

 

[goin4glory]

Silva played LM,LW,RW for city most his career with Yaya at 10 and Silva occasionally played 10/CAM but never deep CM where he is now. In fact who scored have him starting at 10 in double figures apps only twice in City career. De Bruyne also has played AMC AML AMR at City until last season and played AMC at Wolfsburg. Last season was the 1st real season he was deployed as a centre midfielder.

In terms of writing Silva off, just check his thread, same with Aguero.
regarding the fullbacks, we all know they are not worth that amount and if anything, Pep got bumped. Spurs were more than happy to sell Walker as they have adequate replacements and may not miss him much. You can get FB to do Walkers job for half the price. Only in EPL do teams spend 50m on FB. in fact only pep does.

If you're seriously trying to claim that Yaya has been in the 10 more than Silva do yourself a favour and just watch another sport. Your valuation of fullbacks doesn't change the fact Guardiola spent 100m on 2 of the best, a luxury most clubs only wish they could have. If he hadn't spent 50m on each of them he'd still be trotting out Kolarov and Sagna week in week out and they'd be a worse team for it.

 

[SwansonsTache]

Your valuation of fullbacks doesn't change the fact Guardiola spent 100m on 2 of the best, a luxury most clubs only wish they could have. If he hadn't spent 50m on each of them he'd still be trotting out Kolarov and Sagna week in week out and they'd be a worse team for it.

Exactly, they had big issues at FB last season and they went ahead and spent a fortune on probably the best attacking RB in the league and one of the best attacking LB's in the world. Meanwhile our solution is sporting a repurposed winger on the left and another ex-winger who can't cross on the right.

Mourinho probably knew Shaw wouldn't cut it before the season started, why we didn't try for Kolasinac on a free or why we seemingly don't seem to be trying to attract Ghoulam on a free now is negligence.

 

[Stacks]

If you're seriously trying to claim that Yaya has been in the 10 more than Silva do yourself a favour and just watch another sport. Your valuation of fullbacks doesn't change the fact Guardiola spent 100m on 2 of the best, a luxury most clubs only wish they could have. If he hadn't spent 50m on each of them he'd still be trotting out Kolarov and Sagna week in week out and they'd be a worse team for it.

Exactly, they had big issues at FB last season and they went ahead and spent a fortune on probably the best attacking RB in the league and one of the best attacking LB's in the world. Meanwhile our solution is sporting a repurposed winger on the left and another ex-winger who can't cross on the right.

Mourinho probably knew Shaw wouldn't cut it before the season started, why we didn't try for Kolasinac on a free or why we seemingly don't seem to be trying to attract Ghoulam on a free now is negligence.

you guys are whinging like we didn't spend 200m on 3 players, Pogba, Matic and Lukaku. Not my fault Jose thought 35 million on Lindelof was a better option than signing a left back. Not my fault Jose thought Mkhitaryan would be the best option for our right side. Our problem areas could easily have been fixed for the money we spent. Our GK is mint. we have a good selection of CB (Jones, Rojo, Bailly, Smalling). We have 2 beastly CMs. and a lethal striker. 2 promising wide players. We aren't far off.

 

[Member 90887]

This is baseless bollox.

Watch this bollox being written on the mirror or the like in the next few days. that's how these rumours begin. i can't understand people sometimes!

 

[goin4glory]

you guys are whinging like we didn't spend 200m on 3 players, Pogba, Matic and Lukaku. Not my fault Jose thought 35 million on Lindelof was a better option than signing a left back. Not my fault Jose thought Mkhitaryan would be the best option for our right side. Our problem areas could easily have been fixed for the money we spent. Our GK is mint. we have a good selection of CB (Jones, Rojo, Bailly, Smalling). We have 2 beastly CMs. and a lethal striker. 2 promising wide players. We aren't far off.

I'm well aware of how much we spent on 3 players. It appears you're completely unaware on how much City have spent over the same time frame while also having a much better squad to build from.

We struggle much more with any run of injuries because our squad is clearly inferior which has been evident in the last few games.

 

[Stacks]

I'm well aware of how much we spent on 3 players. It appears you're completely unaware on how much City have spent over the same time frame while also having a much better squad to build from.

We struggle much more with any run of injuries because our squad is clearly inferior which has been evident in the last few games.

City have £11 million net spend higher than us in 2 years and I disagree on having much better squad seeing as they were hardly storming the league these last 2 seasons. in fact they were in transition. out with the Zabaleta's Kompany's, Toure's Clichys, Kolarovs, Nasri's, Sagna's, Milner's, Dzeko's, Joe Harts. The vast majority of their former winning team. They were needing a revamp like us. When Pep came, they needed CB's FB's, wingers and centre midfielders as Toure, Fernandinho and Fernando isn't strong. Pep bought FB, a CB, converted Silva and De Bruyne into centre midfielders in Xavi's, Kroos position, he bought a keeper and some young wingers they have too. a lot of surgery, new roles for players also. I think people are exaggerating their position of strength. They came 4th on merit and even Pep only elevated them one position after that.