Jose Mourinho | 2017/18 Assessments | Poll Added

[Jacko21]

I'll judge him when he has his own XI (excl. De Gea), that's the only way to know for sure whether it's him or the players.

 

[Treble]

I've actually convinced myself that losing Martial is that bad. He sure has quality but he is too fragile mentally, doesn't get stuck in and lacks any kind of inspiration to others.

Maybe this description fits Pogba too and thus it wouldn't hurt if he leaves with Martial?

Most players are neither tough nor fragile mentally wise. Whether they play in a brave or coward way depends on the atmosphere at the club and the manager. How many mentally tough players do City have? None of their attacking players strikes me as a born winner. But they are doing their job well.

 

[JPRouve]

I'll judge him when he has his own XI (excl. De Gea), that's the only way to know for sure whether it's him or the players.

If he needs his own XI, then it's him.

 

[T A]

Yep, as a fan, i start wondering how could i use to love this man before. Have had enough of his excuses and discrimination

 

[Garethw]

I just hope he walks/gets sacked before he rips the squad to pieces.

I’m all for dross like Darmian, Fellaini and Blind leaving, and it’s time to say goodbye to the ageing Valencia and Young too. But the fact that it’s Bailly, Pogba,Martial,Shaw and Rashford that seem to be in Mourinho’s line of sight for sale is very worrying.

When an entire squad of players is underperforming week in week out then it is on the manager.

I find it astounding on here how so many people believe that our problems are solely attributed to the 25 players in our squad rather than with the manager.

Opposition fans now refer to us as boring boring man united. Something I never thought I’d ever hear said about this great club.

 

[Oneunited26]

The big worry people should have is the rebuilding job is well behind schedule for me, we should have seen huge strides last summer in what we needed when there was no World Cup. Damien, blind, Jones, young and fellaini for starters should have been moved on by now in summers 2016 and 2017, and the fact not only are they here but he wants them part of his plans next year. That for me is a huge worry, that RB, LB, CB, CM and out wide is nowhere near being sorted and this summer is not going to magically be sorted when the manager himself has not ruthlessly moved out the deadwood, but embracing these players.

Has for jose’s Third year, well Valencia, young, smalling, fellaini, lingard, he’s looking to have blind and Damien still part of his plans, all these pieces in place currently is not going to win us a title. Allot of the moyes and VG signings are reaching their late 20’s early to mid 30’s, hell sir alex’s Signings Valencia and young are in their mid 30’s now and they still playing every week. So is Jose rebuilding? Or looking to win a big trophy and getting the hell out, if he’s doing that then the next manager has allot of work on his hands. What is an even bigger problem the club once again like when fergie was announcing he was going the club do not seem to be prepared for who takes over from Jose, they still think they could have Jose here for another 5 to 10 which I be surprised if he makes 5 years

So that is the big question ??? Is Jose here to build his first great united team? Or doing enough to win a PL? And getting the hell out, because Jose does not look like he’s here to go 12 rounds or even 5, he looks so burnt out, which is the worry is the fire still burning?

 

[kouroux]

I'll judge him when he has his own XI (excl. De Gea), that's the only way to know for sure whether it's him or the players.

I'm sorry but that makes no sense. Every manager inherits a squad of player who were there and many of them can reach their goals with those players and a few of their additions.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

The big worry people should have is the rebuilding job is well behind schedule for me, we should have seen huge strides last summer in what we needed when there was no World Cup. Damien, blind, Jones, young and fellaini for starters should have been moved on by now in summers 2016 and 2017, and the fact not only are they here but he wants them part of his plans next year. That for me is a huge worry, that RB, LB, CB, CM and out wide is nowhere near being sorted and this summer is not going to magically be sorted when the manager himself has not ruthlessly moved out the deadwood, but embracing these players.

Has for jose’s Third year, well Valencia, young, smalling, fellaini, lingard, he’s looking to have blind and Damien still part of his plans, all these pieces in place currently is not going to win us a title. Allot of the moyes and VG signings are reaching their late 20’s early to mid 30’s, hell sir alex’s Signings Valencia and young are in their mid 30’s now and they still playing every week. So is Jose rebuilding? Or looking to win a big trophy and getting the hell out, if he’s doing that then the next manager has allot of work on his hands.

So that is the big question ??? Is Jose here to build his first great united team? Or doing enough to win a PL? And getting the hell out, because Jose does not look like he’s here to go 12 rounds or even 5, he looks so burnt out, which is the worry is the fire still burning?

This summer is going to be very difficult to sign players with the World Cup, and doesn't the window close before the season starts this time as well?

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

This summer is going to be very difficult to sign players with the World Cup, and doesn't the window close before the season starts this time as well?

When he was Chelsea manager he got his deals done before the world cup.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

When he was Chelsea manager he got his deals done before the world cup.

That was at Chelsea. Woody tends to do his business late.

 

[JPRouve]

I'm sorry but that makes no sense. Every manager inherits a squad of player who were there and many of them can reach their goals with those players and a few of their additions.

It makes even less sense when our problems are on the offensive side and that's where Mourinho has most of his men, Lukaku, Pogba, Sanchez, Mkhi or Lingard. Then you can had the fact that in reality Smalling and Valencia aren't easy players to replace and most managers would keep them.

 

[Oneunited26]

This summer is going to be very difficult to sign players with the World Cup, and doesn't the window close before the season starts this time as well?

He could get deals done, my worry is the sheer number of positions need looking at I worry. The minimum for me he needs a new RB, LB and CM, that’s without looking at the attacking side. He was having huge problems signing perisic and that was with no world Cup year

 

[Jazz]

I just hope he walks/gets sacked before he rips the squad to pieces.

I’m all for dross like Darmian, Fellaini and Blind leaving, and it’s time to say goodbye to the ageing Valencia and Young too. But the fact that it’s Bailly, Pogba,Martial,Shaw and Rashford that seem to be in Mourinho’s line of sight for sale is very worrying.

When an entire squad of players is underperforming week in week out then it is on the manager.

I find it astounding on here how so many people believe that our problems are solely attributed to the 25 players in our squad rather than with the manager.

Opposition fans now refer to us as boring boring man united. Something I never thought I’d ever hear said about this great club.

Same for me. I'm kinda in shock about that.

This boring narrative is also not good. Long time fans like us will be with the club irrespective of what's happening. However, Woodward should be worried. Neutral fans or kids won't be supporting a 'boring' team. Sponsors will probably also start getting slightly uneasy. We can't trade off our past reputation forever.

 

[Jacko21]

If he needs his own XI, then it's him.

I'm sorry but that makes no sense. Every manager inherits a squad of player who were there and many of them can reach their goals with those players and a few of their additions.

I was pointing largely to our disastrous recruitment prior to Mourinho’s arrival.

If Mourinho is still struggling with his own recruitments, then a conclusion can be drawn. As it is, the players should be shouldering just as much blame and criticism as Mourinho.

 

[Oldyella]

I'll judge him when he has his own XI (excl. De Gea), that's the only way to know for sure whether it's him or the players.

Why? Why does he get a pass to sign a new team? Pep hasn't signed a new team, Klopp hasn't, Pochettino hasnt and we all like a chuckle at him. Why does Jose get a pass, 3 years and probably 300 mill plus before we can judge him?

 

[hasanejaz88]

I'll judge him when he has his own XI (excl. De Gea), that's the only way to know for sure whether it's him or the players.

Did Moyes have his XI, LvG? Managers have to manage a team and if they need 'their' XI then that simply means they aren't flexible enough.

Jose has had two transfer windows to bring in the players he wants and if that isn't enough then the manager is simply asking for too much time and money. You also have to take into account that while bringing his XI he might let go of some potentially talented players like Shaw, Rashford and Martial.

 

[0161_UNITED]

Indeed, we know who these players are. Literally everyone except De Gea, logically people would look in the same direction but for some reason it's very hard for a lot of people.

Right. The problem is much bigger than Mourinho though, or simply cherry picking the players who underperformed recently and hoping they get transferred out.

This problem started at the tail end of the SAF era. No disrespect to our greatest manager ever, but the signs were flashing bright red that there were quality issues throughout the squad, and the old guard was nearing the end.

Rio, Evra, Vidic, Rooney, Van Persie and others were all nearing the twilight of their careers and their replacements were, shall we say, questionable. Then we went through the Moyes fiasco, and 2 years of LvG trying to implement a system that didn’t fit the players. LvG was so out of touch, he bought a boatload of players based on their World Cup form because he was coaching the Dutch national team. Di Maria, Rojo, Schweinsteiger all had a great World Cup. I still think he was incredibly unlucky in the transfer market, but eff me, it’s really difficult to point to any Moyes or LvG transfer as an unqualified success.

We left the LvG era with 2 aging wingers converted to fullbacks as first team starters, no midfield, an inconsistent centre back partnership of Blind and Smalling, and 2 promising young prospects with Martial and Rashford.

We’ve been a disaster waiting to happen for years, and I hate it. Mou isn’t my cup of tea sometimes, I hate his sullen, snarky, throwing players under the bus media antics. On the other hand, we’re far better under Mourinho than anyone will give him credit for. But it’s still a mess.

We have:
2 aging converted wingers as starting fullbacks

Nobody has an effing clue about the quality or best pairing of our CBs

Our midfield is definitely better under Mou. Pogba is potentially world class, Matic is solid, Herrera can do a job, and McTominay can be the next Fletcher or Nicky Butt if he kicks on.

The attackers should be much better. Sanchez is a great player. Lukaku has his limitations but he can put the ball in the net. Rashford and Martial still have potential.

We’ve just gone through a season with the entire defense being primarily SAF purchases in Young, Valencia, Jones and Smalling. 2 of which weren’t even bought as defenders (don’t get me started on people who thought SAF’s master plan was having Young and Valencia as fullbacks).

How good are Jones, Smalling, Bailly and Rojo? Who bloody knows! Sometimes great, sometimes shite, and usually injured.

Carrick’s retiring. Fellaini who should never have been a United player to begin with, is bigging it up in the press about how we’ve fecked up keeping him here. And Jose spent a significant portion of this season feuding with Pogba.

To top it off, we’ve still got some absolutely useless players in the payroll.

It’s a mess. It has been for years.

 

[Oneunited26]

Same for me. I'm kinda in shock about that.

This boring narrative is also not good. Long time fans like us will be with the club irrespective of what's happening. However, Woodward should be worried. Neutral fans or kids won't be supporting a 'boring' team. Sponsors will probably also start getting slightly uneasy. We can't trade off our past reputation forever.

Not really, if he keeps United in the top 4 they won’t care how we play has it keeps the coins rolling in, and the worst part the club seem ill prepared on when Jose leaves because it’s Jose who will decide. The clubs vision is making money, if they win trophy’s they be happy but if a manager gets top 4 it’s job well done, look at Ed’s text he sent to Jose that should give you an idea on the clubs vision. I don’t think we have a leader within the club with a vision that can grab this club by the scruff of the neck, and drive us beyond making money, the board have allot to answer for for the manager appointments they have made that has set us back years

 

[CM]

Jose Mourinho is the most toxic man in football. Nothing is ever his fault. Constantly bullying players and throwing players under the bus. He has turned Manchester United fans against each other and against the players. If my manager spoke like that about me and my team, I would quit the next day.
On top of all this we play shit on a stick footballl regardless of winning or losing. The day he leaves the club will be celebrated like no other.

Someone should have asked him about the losses vs bottom teams where Lukaku started. He just makes it up as he goes along really. Will throw his mum under the bus to protect himself.

Spot on. I don't think I've ever felt so disenchanted with the direction the club is taking. I can overlook the boring football but there are almost no redeeming qualities. I pretty much hate everything Mourinho stands for as a manager at this point - from his 'style' to his short-term, self-serving nature, and the copious amounts of shite that come along with it.

There was absolutely no excuse for taking shots at the players in the way he did yesterday and it's all too familiar. It only confirms what I've already thought about him for a long time and I'm getting sick of it.

 

[JB08]

Does everyone hate him again now?

 

[Charles Miller]

Really? his teams were swashbuckling or tactically astute in winning trophy after trophy? I don't think so.

Ajax under Van Gaal is one of the most important teams in the history of this sport and basically created majority of the modern tactics.

 

[Jazz]

Not really, if he keeps United in the top 4 they won’t care how we play has it keeps the coins rolling in, and the worst part the club seem ill prepared on when Jose leaves because it’s Jose who will decide. The clubs vision is making money, if they win trophy’s they be happy but if a manager gets top 4 it’s job well done, look at Ed’s text he sent to Jose that should give you an idea on the clubs vision. I don’t think we have a leader within the club with a vision that can grab this club by the scruff of the neck, and drive us beyond making money, the board have allot to answer for for the manager appointments they have made that has set us back years

Then we're in deep shite if the board really thinks like that. As a marketing machine, you would think negative narratives have an impact on the 'brand', so would be surprised if Woodward really is that short sighted.

On the other hand, Woodward is ruthless, and I'm not sure Jose should take what he says as gospel, so I'll wait to see if that text is a true reflection of Woodward's thoughts.

 

[JPRouve]

I was pointing largely to our disastrous recruitment prior to Mourinho’s arrival.

If Mourinho is still struggling with his own recruitments, then a conclusion can be drawn. As it is, the players should be shouldering just as much blame and criticism as Mourinho.

It still makes no sense, he is struggling with his own recruitments, half of the starting eleven is his own and the half that is the most problematic is made of his men, the midfield. The players that people want out are also the players that forms one of the most solid defense around, we can talk shit as much as we want but they are not the problem, not even the fullbacks are the main problem. Our problem is that our midfielders are piss poor at moving the ball consistently and efficiently and our attacking midfielders whoever they are, consistently play like they met for the first time, Lukaku is a big surprise for me because he improved individually and he is showing what I wanted from our strikers, unfortunately he is absolutely alone. From the back four to Lukaku, we have a big pile of mediocrity and I'm pretty sure that the players aren't the main problem.

 

[Oneunited26]

Right. The problem is much bigger than Mourinho though, or cherry picking the players who underperformed recently and hoping they get transferred out.

This problem started at the tail end of the SAF era. No disrespect to our greatest manager ever, but the signs were flashing bright red that there were quality issues throughout the squad, and the old guard was nearing the end.

Rio, Evra, Vidic, Rooney, Van Persie and others were all nearing the twilight of their careers and their replacements were, shall we say, questionable. Then we went through the Moyes fiasco, and 2 years of LvG trying to implement a system that didn’t fit the players. LvG was so out of touch, he bought a boatload of players based on their World Cup form because he was coaching the Dutch national team. Di Maria, Rojo, Schweinsteiger all had a great World Cup. I still think he was incredibly unlucky in the transfer market, but eff me, it’s really difficult to point to any Moyes or LvG transfer as an unqualified success.

We left the LvG era with 2 aging wingers converted to fullbacks as first team starters, no midfield, an inconsistent centre back partnership of Blind and Smalling, and 2 promising young prospects with Martial and Rashford.

We’ve been a disaster waiting to happen for years, and I hate it. Mou isn’t my cup of tea sometimes, I hate his sullen, snarky, throughing players under the bus media antics. On the other hand, we’re far better under Mourinho than anyone will give him credit for. But it’s still a mess.

We have:
2 aging converted wingers as starting fullbacks

Nobody has an effing clue about the quality or best pairing of our CBs

Our midfield is definitely better under Mou. Pogba is potentially world class, Matic is solid, Herrera can do a job, and McTominay can be the next Fletcher or Nicky Butt if he kicks on.

The attackers should be much better. Sanchez is a great player. Lukaku has his limitations but he can put the ball in the net. Rashford and Martial still have potential.

We’ve just gone through a season with the entire defense being primarily SAF purchases in Young, Valencia, Jones and Smalling. 2 of which weren’t even bought as defenders (don’t get me started on people who thought SAF’s master plan was having Young and Valencia as fullbacks).

How good are Jones, Smalling, Bailly and Rojo? Who bloody knows! Sometimes great, sometimes shite, and usually injured.

Carrick’s retiring. Fellaini who should never have been a United player to begin with, is bigging it up in the press about how we’ve fecked up keeping him here. And Jose spent a significant portion of this season feuding with Pogba.

To top it off, we’ve still got some absolutely useless players in the payroll.

It’s a mess. It has been for years.

Well look at where city were in 2008, they lose 8-1 to boro, they get taken over by their best signing, and within 4 years they win the PL title, so it’s all about decision making and our club has made 10 years of bad decisions which has got worse in 2013.

But what we have is a board who have made 2 terrible manager appointments, who need to be held accountable for these decisions, and Jose has come in who seems a shell of his former self which for me has set us back years with moyes and VG.

So I think our biggest problem is the board and ownership don’t have leadership within that club, if Jose fails to take us back to the PL summit, a PL title drought goes from 5 years to arsenal levels, and before you know it it could become a Liverpool unthinkable situation. And with this current board it very much could happen, because they see coins has their priority and not trophy’s

 

[Thiim]

We are very much a reactive club so we'll wait for things to get really bad (i.e. we drop out of the top 4), then have to seriously rebuild ONCE AGAIN, after which the merry-go-round continues. Baffling management at the top.

 

[Oneunited26]

Then we're in deep shite if the board really thinks like that. As a marketing machine, you would think negative narratives have an impact on the 'brand', so would be surprised if Woodward really is that short sighted.

On the other hand, Woodward is ruthless, and I'm not sure Jose should take what he says as gospel, so I'll wait to see if that text is a true reflection of Woodward's thoughts.

This club has made 10 years of bad decision making, 2013 it got worse when moyes was appointed, for me Jose is well behind schedule on the rebuilding process, apart from Di Maria and Bastian nearly all of VG’s signings are still here, Hell all of moyes signings are still here ain’t that irony. I question if Jose is even here to rebuild the club, we will know for sure in the summer if Jose is here to win a PL title and get out, because if all his signings are in their late 20’s into the 30’s then that says to me, he is here to win the PL and leaving because he does not look like he’s here for 12 rounds in the way he feels. The club is reactive club, they will sack managers when things get so bad, if moves kept us in a top 4 he would still be here

We are very much a reactive club so we'll wait for things to get really bad (i.e. we drop out of the top 4), then have to seriously rebuild ONCE AGAIN, after which the merry-go-round continues. Baffling management at the top.

You know what scares me, moyes may have still been united manager if he kept us top 4 every year since he was appointed. That sums this board up, they here to make the coins role in more than glory

 

[red4ever 79]

shambles

 

[Rajma]

We are very much a reactive club so we'll wait for things to get really bad (i.e. we drop out of the top 4), then have to seriously rebuild ONCE AGAIN, after which the merry-go-round continues. Baffling management at the top.

Bingo.

 

[kouroux]

It makes even less sense when our problems are on the offensive side and that's where Mourinho has most of his men, Lukaku, Pogba, Sanchez, Mkhi or Lingard. Then you can had the fact that in reality Smalling and Valencia aren't easy players to replace and most managers would keep them.

Exactly.

We are very much a reactive club so we'll wait for things to get really bad (i.e. we drop out of the top 4), then have to seriously rebuild ONCE AGAIN, after which the merry-go-round continues. Baffling management at the top.

Sadly true.

 

[Jazz]

This club has made 10 years of bad decision making, 2013 it got worse when moyes was appointed, for me Jose is well behind schedule on the rebuilding process, apart from Di Maria and Bastian nearly all of VG’s signings are still here, Hell all of moyes signings are still here ain’t that irony. I question if Jose is even here to rebuild the club, we will know for sure in the summer if Jose is here to win a PL title and get out, because if all his signings are in their late 20’s into the 30’s then that says to me, he is here to win the PL and leaving because he does not look like he’s here for 12 rounds in the way he feels. The club is reactive club, they will sack managers when things get so bad, if moves kept us in a top 4 he would still be here



You know what scares me, moyes may have still been united manager if he kept us top 4 every year since he was appointed. That sums this board up, they here to make the coins role in more than glory

I'm pretty sure he's only focused on his personal glory - not re-building the club. LVG had the right mentality for re-building - but his execution on most matters was a huge problem.
If I were in charge and knew a manager like LVG was coming in, I'd have got a DOF in to help with recruitment of the right players for a start, as even I knew that established players and LVG don't get along and that his recruitment can be suspect. I'd make sure the profile of the players are on the young and 'moldable' side - which plays to LVG's strengths as seen with Rash, Martial and Lingard - but also that the players had the right mentality for United. The club should then have managed expectations a bit until we got through the rebuilding stage to set us up for the mid to long term future.
I'd rather we have a solid direction and plan that fits the ideals of the club and wait for it to mature, than fumbling around and letting each new manager come in dictating things. That doesn't sound very organised to me.

 

[redIndianDevil]

What a rubbish post. Jose is adored at Inter Milan. He left after he won the league title and the CL. Then Rafa followed. Stop making accusations that are basically lies.

Of course he is adored there, he left soon after winning the CL. He bought a bunch of players in their peak, won things and left them. The successors had the difficult task of moving on the past-it players and rebuilding the squad again.

 

[Alabaster Codify7]

Nothing will change next season, I've resigned myself to the fact that this is United now.

Top 4, a domestic cup run and an uneventful CL stint each season.

A new manager, maybe things will be different, maybe not. But next season will be a carbon-copy of this - sh*t on a stick, boring football and fans wanting the season to be over by March so we can 'upgrade the squad/get rid of the deadwood'.

 

[Oldyella]

I'm pretty sure he's only focused on his personal glory - not re-building the club. LVG had the right mentality for re-building - but his execution on most matters was a huge problem.
If I were in charge and knew a manager like LVG was coming in, I'd have got a DOF in to help with recruitment of the right players for a start, as even I knew that established players and LVG don't get along and that his recruitment can be suspect. I'd make sure the profile of the players are on the young and 'moldable' side - which plays to LVG's strengths as seen with Rash, Martial and Lingard - but also that the players had the right mentality for United. The club should then have managed expectations a bit until we got through the rebuilding stage to set us up for the mid to long term future.
I'd rather we have a solid direction and plan that fits the ideals of the club and wait for it to mature, than fumbling around and letting each new manager come in dictating things. That doesn't sound very organised to me.

If I was running the club, I would be tempted to be looking at bringing in a dof this summer anyway, just to have someone planning long term transfer strategy. If Jose doesn't like it, he can walk.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

It still makes no sense, he is struggling with his own recruitments, half of the starting eleven is his own and the half that is the most problematic is made of his men, the midfield. The players that people want out are also the players that forms one of the most solid defense around, we can talk shit as much as we want but they are not the problem, not even the fullbacks are the main problem. Our problem is that our midfielders are piss poor at moving the ball consistently and efficiently and our attacking midfielders whoever they are, consistently play like they met for the first time, Lukaku is a big surprise for me because he improved individually and he is showing what I wanted from our strikers, unfortunately he is absolutely alone. From the back four to Lukaku, we have a big pile of mediocrity and I'm pretty sure that the players aren't the main problem.

Bingo.

Bailly. Has seemingly died.
Pogba. Shadow of his potential/previous self.
Lindelof. So far, so average.
Mkhitarian. Very poor for us.

Zlatan was a short term signing. Lukaku is good but remains to be seen of he'll be top class. Matic is the one unmitigated success.

 

[Jazz]

If I was running the club, I would be tempted to be looking at bringing in a dof this summer anyway, just to have someone planning long term transfer strategy. If Jose doesn't like it, he can walk.

Definitely agree. We are in need of a good DOF. The club should just get the best out there (if they are interested). And yes, if Jose doesn't like it, tough.

 

[RORY65]

Bingo.

Bailly. Has seemingly died.
Pogba. Shadow of his potential/previous self.
Lindelof. So far, so average.
Mkhitarian. Very poor for us.

Zlatan was a short term signing. Lukaku is good but remains to be seen of he'll be top class. Matic is the one unmitigated success.

I'm not sure Matic has been an unmitigated success, his form has been patchy for much of the season (people have been excusing him for looking tired since about October). Don't get me wrong he's been good, one of our better players this season, but he was meant to be a ready-made, reasonably short term solution and he's not always lived up to those expectations. Mourinho's recruitment has been ok, certainly better than his two predecessors, but it's something that he's probably got too much credit for when you actually look how they've worked out (even Sanchez has struggled so far).

 

[Sing you a song]

If our problems were as simple as that, why have we looked shite and lost games to teams like WBA, Newcastle etc with Lukaku playing upfront? Did those games answer "Why Messi"?

Never said our problems were as simple as that.
I personally don’t think Lukaku is the real deal either just would trust him to score over Rashfird or Martial

 

[Rockets Redglare]

Of course he is adored there, he left soon after winning the CL. He bought a bunch of players in their peak, won things and left them. The successors had the difficult task of moving on the past-it players and rebuilding the squad again.

How can players who won the treble suddenly be past it the season after?
I still don’t understand how Mourinho doesn’t get the praise for what he did at Inter.

 

[JPRouve]

How can players who won the treble suddenly be past it the season after?
I still don’t understand how Mourinho doesn’t get the praise for what he did at Inter.

How? It was an old team and Mourinho's mission was to get the last bit of fire left in them, which he did. There is no way to criticize Mourinho regarding the team but that was a terrible team to inherit.

 

[Lyrical Einstein]

*sigh...I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt given that he claims he doesn't have his preferred squad, however he has had room to explore the possible transfer targets. Next season is do or die. He has to do much better than this and given that we might just lock down 2nd, that means anything less than a title is a failure and warrants his departure.