Improved in 2nd half. Guess when you look back at it, we got an early goal and weathered their storm well. They were flat in the 2nd and we eased through. Think he played it well, Mourinho, given we have a much harder game on Wednesday.
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Because Huddersfield's MF yesterday was comprised of the world football's true "creme de la creme"...
They had legs and were pressing hard. You dont need to be world class to do that. Carrick is a better footballer than their whole midfield put together, doesn’t mean he has the legs.
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Is metro reliable?
"Jose Mourinho was involved in a furious dressing-room bust-up with Manchester United stars Paul Pogba and Phil Jones, fresh reports have revealed." (source)
Assuming true, I like it. Sometimes, players need to be given reality check.
"Jose Mourinho was involved in a furious dressing-room bust-up with Manchester United stars Paul Pogba and Phil Jones, fresh reports have revealed." (source)
Assuming true, I like it. Sometimes, players need to be given reality check.
Not really, no.
Describing Jones as a "star" has to be a wind-up, surely? And I really like the guy, rather prefer him than Smalling, but that's got to be a joke.
The trend lines do not look good. Can you see bright spots in the form of a transition to a system that when executed will take you to the levels of the top performing clubs? No.
Aside from style, questionable tactics and lineups, Mourinho has not been ruthless enough in clearing out and selling players. Approaching 2 years in, and so many sub-par players remain. I'd much prefer putting pressure on the board by selling and maybe having to play Tuanzebe, Fosu etc...than just idling, waiting for some big signing to distract from the massive holes in other positions. While Perisic would have added width (where would Martial have played) there was no sense that MUN was in for a much needed MF. The club is stuck in 3rd gear at the moment, just coasting...frequently exhibiting some very mediocre football.
Aside from style, questionable tactics and lineups, Mourinho has not been ruthless enough in clearing out and selling players. Approaching 2 years in, and so many sub-par players remain. I'd much prefer putting pressure on the board by selling and maybe having to play Tuanzebe, Fosu etc...than just idling, waiting for some big signing to distract from the massive holes in other positions. While Perisic would have added width (where would Martial have played) there was no sense that MUN was in for a much needed MF. The club is stuck in 3rd gear at the moment, just coasting...frequently exhibiting some very mediocre football.
What about when we got bossed around in the MF against Newcastle and other lower teams we played poorly against?
Players lost their legs as well?
Insulting another member
Pogba was poor, there was a balance issue in midfield?
Are you really that much of a miserable shit? Have anything positive to say? Or do you only login to cry?
Would have given it more credibility if it had appeared sooner-did the author just use Pogba and Jones' absence from the squad yesterday to make his story? BTW did anyone question Jones' absence with Jose?
I find it amusing the lengths you would go to defend Mourinho and blame everyone else except him for the dogcrap performances we've been getting for the majority of his tenure in our great club .
It's always either players, or the board, or lack of money, or attitude, or altitude , or squad, or not properly cut grass, or poor lighting, or aliens or the most recently (and my personal favorite if I may add) other team had legs and were pressing us.
I wonder what will be next…
Have you read Jose's comments on Mctominay being regular humble fellow without any fancy haircut.
Things are definitely not right at the moment with Pogba/between Pogba and Jose and it's a fecking shame. We blew our load on a player that became the most expensive in the world at the time that this manager chose and now he's struggling to get the best out of him, doesnt seem to be sure of how to use him and possibly isn't on great terms with him (tempotarily).
Of course not every story is true and most likely Pogba will be back in good form very soon but the return our manager bad gotten on those 90 million invested is worrying.
That's the mangers responsibility to sort, believe it or not.
The last part is just unnecessary and childish.
What lengths have I gone to? Did I not say there was a balance issue with the midfield against Newcastle? Or do you want me to say that perhaps he should have picked McTominay instead of Lingard? You are that dense that I have to type it out for you? Pogba’s performance is down to himself.
How would you have approached yesterday? Considering Huddersfield and their hard and high press? With the lack of mobility in our midfield what would you have done? They didn't even trouble Romero.
No fire without smoke, it could explain out of context Jose's comments around Scott after the game, where Jose goes about Scott not having flashy haircouts, tattoos, cars etc., hence not enough recognition of him.
The mind gymnastics in order to absolve Mourinho of virtually every responsibility as a coach is something special on this board. If something goes right its classic Mourinho, genius move, if it goes wrong or we look awful its virtually everyone elses fault but his.
It’s not unnecessary or childish. All he does is login to talk negatively about Mourinho. He’s miserable.
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You're appear miserable about Martial and anally defensive about Jose most of the time as well.
I said the midfield was unbalanced against Newcastle. If you want me to type it out for you that it’s partly Mourinho’s fault then here you go.
Go through my post history on Martial and you will see I have praised him and have always maintained he is a talented player.
Your one potential advise to Jose was to sell Martial
(I know you weren't entirely serious)And everyone knows he's a talented player. Just like Cal thinks Messi is talented but also despises him.
It's just ironic to see you calling out others on being miserable or having a slant in their posting.
So against Newcastle it was Pogba...then it will be Martial, then Jones, Sanchez, Lukaku and so on and on.
Who bought Pogba? Who failed to get the best out of Pogba? Who failed to address our so called lack of mobility in the MF problem? How is possible that teams that have Henderson, Milner, Can, Xhaka, Elneny etc in the MF don't get dominated in the MF?
And Pogba's performance is down to himself? If that's your stance than it means that Mourinho hasn't really improved any of our players, but the players have improved themselves, right?
Your one potential advise to Jose was to sell Martial
And everyone knows he's a talented player. Just like Cal thinks Messi is talented but also despises him.
It's just ironic to see you calling out others on being miserable or having a slant in their posting.
I wasn't serious at all. I do not want Martial sold at all. I don’t despise him either. I want him to play well and score in every game.
Yeah if the midfield isn't working then Jose has take part of the blame. He has spent 120 odd million on it after all.
Yet I'm perfectly capable of having a discussion without having to resort to injuries and hissy fits just because someone doesn't share my view on the matter.
Oh God where do I start.
Against Huddersfield Carrick, McTominay and Matic where the only CM’s available. Do you think it is ideal having Matic pulled into a LCM position to cover with Shaw? Do you think Carrick can play in a midfield that sits higher with his lack of recovery pace? That McTominay has te ability to play higher and dictate from that position?
Players like Henderson and Elneny do not lack mobility for starters. Second, Arsenal’s midfield have been dominated away from home all season. Liverpool play with a high press. In the Spurs game for example when they tired they were doninated in the second half. We do not employ such a high octane press for various reasons including game management and protecting the defense.
Pogba’s individual performance against Newcastle is down to himself. That is not the normal form of Pogba nor did he look himself. It happens sometimes.
Exactly it's unacceptable for us to get dominated like that and defend deep against smaller sides, heck shouldn't be happening against stronger sides even.
Can't accept the thought that our manager that is one of the world's top and most decorated managers can't devise a plan to battle high press that isn't drop deep, defend, hoof it upfront and try to catch them on the counter.
Yes because the midfield against Huddersfield was valued at £120 million. And that Matic is suitable as the box to box man, or that it is a good idea to have Carrick playing higher up the pitch away to a team that is going to press high.
The right idea was to sit deeper. We were playing 3 holding players in midfield.
Not sure you understand, our players aren't statues and they're all technically and probably tactically far superior to anything that Huddersfield has to offer, but they lack tactical gameplan on how to battle against high pressing that isn't hoof it upfront and degend deep.
By who's choice are we so slim in the MF department? Who's decision was to hoard as many tall MF players that you can find, but send those more athletic ones away on loans because you can't give them any game time?
Also Pogba's mysterious illness right after he was substituted twice and dropped once in the past 4 games, not to mention Mourinho's comments on McTominnay after yesterday's match. Does that seem strange for you? If Pogba was fit do you think he would be playing yesterday ?
Still waiting for your answer on "Pogba's performance is doing to himself".
Terrible logic.
He has spent that amount. It's irrelevant who actually plays. He could have spread the amount over more CMs if he wanted. It's his choice that he went for two and specifically those two. And his 90 million pound guy was horrible on his previous outing anyway.
Again, what role Matic can't work doesnt even matter. Its his signing. He has to make everything. All you're offering is excuses really.
For the sake of argument, what amount is Huddersfield's MF from yesterday worth?
Dark are the days when the right idea for Manchester United is to sit back and defend against Huddersfield.
Recruitment can only happen in steps and we needed other players. Jose only bought 2 midfielders so far as they cost quite a bit, and before that we hardly had a midfield. Understandable that midfield still is an area that is lacking, but Jose certainly will address it.
Pereira wanted to go on a loan while McTominay prefers to stay and fight for a spot. The manager cannot force a player to stay against his will.
I don't particularly have a problem with yesterdays performance to be honest. But we don't need to come out with random things to shift blame (if there is reason to ).
Yes I can understand that, but then again there are teams, our rivals that don't get shamed quite as often as we do despite having MF that possess less quality than ours.
EDIT: Because they knew they wont be getting any game time with Mourinho preferring to play Fellaini off the bench and MF 2.
Are you saying we should have or shouldn’t have played deep? A high line with the midfield we had yesterday would have been comical.
Which athletic CM’s are you talking about? TFM and Pereira? Is that the stick you are going to beat Mourinho with? Seriously? He didn’t even want Pereira to go out on loan and who the feck said TFM was good enough to play in midfield against Premier league opposition? You’re just making up fantasies in your head.
This is an absolutely shambolic post.
Yeah it’s Mourinho’s fault Pogba, Herrera and Fellaini are all out at the same time.
You’re right, instead of signing Pogba he should have signed 3 average CM’s instead, because that is what is going to win us anything.
Of course it matters is Matic can play a certain role or not. The fecking hilarious thing about all of this is that Huddersfield barely troubled Romero and we won 2-0.
What you just posted is one of the worst posts I have seen on here. Complete and utter lack of awareness.
What are you saying then? The team has tons of weaknesses and Paul Pogba himself cannot fix them. On some days, they look like a mid table side. And we're almost 2 years in to Mourinho's tenure. The man is responsible for ameliorating those flaws and/or mitigating those personnel problems through either selling/buying or tactical acumen (obviously to a very limited effect)...all the while transitioning to a style that can win at the highest level in 2018. The approach is too cautious and the progress is not anywhere near where it has to be.
He's currently in the middle of taking school yard pot shots (about hair and apparel?) at the club's most integral MF player. I don't think most people realize that this could easily blow up.
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It’s not about the fecking worth or value it’s the skillset they possess.
He could have probably signed 2 very good CMs, saying that I am happy we have Pogba.
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