Jose Fonte

Looks like this might be happening. Hopefully it is the end of Jones and Rojo. Surely for one of them, most likely Jones.
 
There was a moment in the CC where Rojo went all spastic at the ref for a decision. That point i thought; hey, maybe Mourinho will like him.. Jones in danger.
 
if nothing else it will shore up the cb group when Bailly is off on international duty. United can find 8m down the sofa
 
Sell Darmian and Rojo. Sign Fonte. Then we have two decent defenses..

1 - Valencia Smalling Bailly Shaw
2- Mensah Fonte Jones Blind
 
I'd rather keep Jones than Rojo, but yeah. Fonte in and one of them out.
 
If we sign him then we absolutely need to get rid off one other defender otherwise we'll end up having too many average defenders.
 
Sell Darmian and Rojo. Sign Fonte. Then we have two decent defenses..

1 - Valencia Smalling Bailly Shaw
2- Mensah Fonte Jones Blind

That would definitely have been my first instinct too, but I wonder of Mourinho will have been impressed with Blind centrally and intend to use him more there. In which case, that perhaps might put Jones at more risk than Rojo?

Darmian, I could definitely see ending up back in Serie A.
 
Jose seem to like Blind, who in turn has repaid the faith showed in him.

Its Jones that should be trembling at this. Rojo might be saved by versatility.

Blind is solid against teams who play the ball on the ground, he reads the game so well and intercepts a hell of a lot and tackles good. And at least with Bailly there as well - he has the pace to get in behind if someone beats Blind for pace. It's as soon as the ball is lobbed in the air Blind struggles.

Fonte would be decent for rotation and experience. Jones cant get a run in the team as he walks into every object going, and Rojo is just not to the level needed.
 
Btw, i dont think there's much to this tbh. Just a 2+2=5 rumor as We might want a experienced defender and he's portuguese.

He's not that great anyway.
 
I think he's a great player, but I would rather give time to TFM or Tuanzebe. Blind, Smalling, Bailly, Rojo, Jones plus those two - surely someone other than just Smalling/Blind will be able to play well for most of the season.

Agreed about giving the younger guys a chance when appropriate, but i'd sooner have bailly, smalling, blind and fonte as first choices and get rid of jones and rojo. One is too injury prone and both of them are fairly crap at defending.

4 first choices. 2 youth products. Sounds about right.
 
I like him, and yeah for that price, great backup option.

But it seems to me like an awful move for him, going from a place where he's a regular starter to just a backup option who never plays... unless he thinks he can get in front of Bailly?
 
I like him, and yeah for that price, great backup option.

But it seems to me like an awful move for him, going from a place where he's a regular starter to just a backup option who never plays... unless he thinks he can get in front of Bailly?
With Europa League commitments, Bailly being young and raw, Jones (and thankfully to a lesser extent Smalling) being prone to injury and Blind not quite good enough to nail down a starting spot I reckon Fonte could have plenty of game time.

Its a pay day, a chance at silverware and being able to say he played for United.
 
Blind is solid against teams who play the ball on the ground, he reads the game so well and intercepts a hell of a lot and tackles good. And at least with Bailly there as well - he has the pace to get in behind if someone beats Blind for pace. It's as soon as the ball is lobbed in the air Blind struggles.

Fonte would be decent for rotation and experience. Jones cant get a run in the team as he walks into every object going, and Rojo is just not to the level needed.
Fonte is much better than Rojo and Jones, and a very good defender in his own right.

Four CB's of Blind, Fonte, Blind and Bailly are a formidable team.
 
Fonte is much better than Rojo and Jones, and a very good defender in his own right.

Four CB's of Blind, Fonte, Blind and Bailly are a formidable team.
He was good yesterday, but not that good.
 
With Europa League commitments, Bailly being young and raw, Jones (and thankfully to a lesser extent Smalling) being prone to injury and Blind not quite good enough to nail down a starting spot I reckon Fonte could have plenty of game time.

Its a pay day, a chance at silverware and being able to say he played for United.

Yeah totally good for us with all the competitions, i'd def ditch Jones, have our first four choices some combination of smalling/bailly/blind/fonte, and we're looking good.

It depends on the players point of view i guess too, if he can handle not playing all the time then all good... the money and 'united' factor obviously always plays a part though as you say.
 
Fonte is much better than Rojo and Jones, and a very good defender in his own right.

Four CB's of Blind, Fonte, Blind and Bailly are a formidable team.

Ya, I'd like Fonte. Jones is meh and Rojo is a liability.
 
Fonte is much better than Rojo and Jones, and a very good defender in his own right.

Four CB's of Blind, Fonte, Blind and Bailly are a formidable team.

Is not better, only less injury prone.
 
How about we sign Fonte on a 2 year deal and loan Jones to Southampton for a season to see if he can go five minutes without hurting himself?
 
Sell Darmian and Rojo. Sign Fonte. Then we have two decent defenses..

1 - Valencia Smalling Bailly Shaw
2- Mensah Fonte Jones Blind

Wouldn't sell Darmian - covers both full back positions. He should improve under Jose if he is in his plans of course.

As for Fonte. Don't need him. Screams of a Everton buy to replace Stones.

Going for Miranda for example would be better, although I'm not sure what is the situation there - he's on 2 years loan deal with Inter having option to buy around the same fee as Fonte is cited.
 
So you have mentioned inferior players in all the positions. Martial is our best LW and replacing him with Rashford, Lingard means there is drop in quality. Ibra is by far our best CF, replacing him with Rooney is again drop in quality. If Martial replaces Ibra then left wing is not very good. Similarly Blind, Smalling and Bailly are our best CBs. If they are injured or unavailable then there will be drop in quality.

Smalling, Bailly, Blind, Jones and Rojo are more than enough for a CB position. Unless we sell 2 and buy Fonte it doesn't make sense to have so many CBs. Also Jose has a good record when it comes to injuries to his players.
this is what happens in a squad, when the first choice is injured there is an obvious drop in quality hence the term first choice. What you are suggesting is some Utopian dispensation where you replace Xavi with Scholes, it has never happened over the short to medium term because you can't keep both players happy when they are fit. And how much of a drop in quality is Rashford to Martial?
These two are unreliable from a quality (Rojo) and fitness (Jones) perspective so there is need for a more dependable player especially as I suspect that Mourinho will use two different elevens for the PL and Europa.
 
this is what happens in a squad, when the first choice is injured there is an obvious drop in quality hence the term first choice. What you are suggesting is some Utopian dispensation where you replace Xavi with Scholes, it has never happened over the short to medium term because you can't keep both players happy when they are fit. And how much of a drop in quality is Rashford to Martial?
These two are unreliable from a quality (Rojo) and fitness (Jones) perspective so there is need for a more dependable player especially as I suspect that Mourinho will use two different elevens for the PL and Europa.

If we sell Jones and Rojo? Yes signing Fonte makes sense. If not then it's too many players for CB position.
 
If we sell Jones and Rojo? Yes signing Fonte makes sense. If not then it's too many players for CB position.
Lookig at both players objectively, yes, we have to sell them otherwise the drop in quality you were on about becomes more pronounced if we ever have to play without Bailly and Smalling.
 
We need somebody dependable in Jan when Bailly goes to the ACON.

Id rather Fonte than Jones or Rojo.
 
Our main CBs would be Smalling and Bailly, Blind should be in Midfield, and Fonte a backup CB, with jones backup for Fonte if not injured.