José Mourinho | 2018/19 Performances
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I think it's easy to be suspicious of his motives because of the timing but it's something that he needs to do and that he should have been actively doing from his appointment. It can only be a positive for a manager to interact positively with fans. When people like you it makes some things so much easier.
However, Mourinho will not be naive to think that cosying up to the fans will save his job. He has always been a results person and that will still be key.
I'm happy to see that he is also showing a willingness to adapt his game. It is still early days in this season so, it's wise to adopt a wait-and-see attitude. I like a lot of what I'm seeing but of course, they must be accompanied by positive results.
Anybody else thinks he deserves credit for the handling of last 2 weeks? Yes the blame for results can be put at his door but since then the meltdown and lost dressing room that has been widely anticipated hasnt materialised at all.
Players looked really motivated and galvanised, hes praised players that need it eg lindelof yesterday, hes been continually thankful to fans and resisted the absolute sitter of a chance to dig at woodward.like him or not, with his record he has been treated with total indigity by a press base who seem to worship managers with a tenth of his success and hes actually handled them well which is no easy feat.
Many false dawns in 5 years so wont get deep, but credit where its due. Many wanted the meltdown- unlucky.
Players looked really motivated and galvanised, hes praised players that need it eg lindelof yesterday, hes been continually thankful to fans and resisted the absolute sitter of a chance to dig at woodward.like him or not, with his record he has been treated with total indigity by a press base who seem to worship managers with a tenth of his success and hes actually handled them well which is no easy feat.
Many false dawns in 5 years so wont get deep, but credit where its due. Many wanted the meltdown- unlucky.
How the feck can an individual thrive in conditions where everyone counts him out/hates him. It's crazy.
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At this rate people wanted mourinho to fail either conscious or subsconciously. Any good news or good move will be chalked down as lip service, any bad result or cracks will be magnified.
When I say Mourinho is a bit of a sociopath I mean it in the nicest possible way.
Only a sociopath could come out in the media and claim he's the self proclaimed special one, win titles, build competitive football teams and yet do very strange things all the time.
The cosying up the fans is his way of telling BOTH the media and Ed Woodward not to feck with him. Only someone with sheer belief in their own winning mentality could act that way.
I've seen it with bosses I've worked for in my sales career. Proper bad to work for if you don't perform, and they can make you feel totally inadequate and inferior if they do get on your back, but your best mate if you do.
In any case Mourinho's recent cosying up to the fans is nothing short of genius in my eyes and we should hope to be able to continue to have this man in charge for as long as Fergie was because he has the potential to build United into a very feared and successful team given the time. BELIEVE!!
It's a good sign he isn't picking fight with anyone except media.
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Well yeh, because you were 8 when Fergie joined. And since then we've had two managers. Prior to Fergie, football clubs' relationships to the media was very different - there wouldn't be leaks. ALSO did you not see how we treated LVG towards the end of his tenure, he was very undermined.
I think Jose was doing the same thing in his last Chelsea season with their fans. Jose always repeats a few things at every club - "this is my house" on being hired and then when the chips are down, comments about world strife (Myanmar here and Syria while at Chelsea) and general appreciation of the fans.
Well, it works for him.
I was very concerned he had already downed tools because he wasn't allowed get the expensive quick-fix solutions he demanded in the transfer window. It could be that he ends up turning Shaw and Lindelof into warriors by accident when his intention would have been to replace them with ready made warriors.
But signs against Burnley shows he's up for it and that could be down to the kind of fan and club support on dark days that he never got elsewhere. Fellaini and Shaw might be the players to save his bacon this season.
He's a very likeable manager when he's not throwing toys out of pram and focusing on the team.
But signs against Burnley shows he's up for it and that could be down to the kind of fan and club support on dark days that he never got elsewhere. Fellaini and Shaw might be the players to save his bacon this season.
He's a very likeable manager when he's not throwing toys out of pram and focusing on the team.
So not demented like John Cross said on Sunday Supplement..?
Much to the disgust of many in the media or on this forum with an agenda or narrative, the United fans (fans who buy tickets and attend games, not post in the match day forum criticising day in day out) have unanimously backed Mourinho by being tremendous at full time V Spurs, and tremendous for the entire 90 minutes v Burnley.
It was incredibly refreshing to witness and reminded me exactly why I'm a United fan.
I just really feel for the Mourinho-Out brigade because they're in for a long season.
It was incredibly refreshing to witness and reminded me exactly why I'm a United fan.
I just really feel for the Mourinho-Out brigade because they're in for a long season.
Loyal match going United fans are not fickle like other teams.
For anyone who thinks an away fan is going to publicly voice discontent let me explain something to you:
You cannot feel the energy of the match day crowd. Your not up at the crack of dawn running on empty, pissed and loving every second of it. You don't have that walk to the ground, the aggro with opposing fans. The pride of marching down a high street, WE'RE United and today your town is ours.
TV mics don't pick up anywhere near the levels of noise actually generated. Everywhere I looked on sunday there was smiles. Every man woman and child was singing to the top of their lungs which is rare in aways where everyone is up for it. Having a laugh with mates and enjoying yourself.
The last thing on anyone's minds is bullshit about Jose. It doesn't matter what matters is the team on the pitch and giving your everything in the hope it gives them a boost, that bit extra to push that bit harder. And in my view it did that especially to close the game out.
Of course in the pubs and in the whatsapps groups its discussed but that's in private not in public for cnuts like Oliver Holt or wankbags from scouse forums to exploit further the anti united agenda.
Everyone in attendance sunday fecking loved it and it was a real feck you to he narrative that united fans want jose out. Social media cnuts (Brilliantly coined by Noel) do not represent all united fans and that point was firmly made sunday.
I went to every game of LVGs final season and the only negative I ever heard from away fans was in Midjytlland where SOME (not all) chanted "we're fecking shit" at the end and even then that was more of a piss take than serious. BT sport didn't pick that up but if you were there you know.
He said that? That's despicable if you ask me. Is there a link or something?
RESPECT RESPECT RESPECT
It made me laugh for a second that.
It did appear like he was cracking a bit by his demeanour with the press, and the lack of cohesion on the pitch with the players didn't help that appearance either. It's obviously been spurred on by the media, who are dying to stir the pot. That said, one win against Burnley isn't the rock solid 'in your face' proof otherwise some are making it out to be either.
Ultimately, and obviously, we should wait and see what happens.
I don't doubt there's a few people that have been dying to say 'I told you so' about him losing it though.
Ultimately, and obviously, we should wait and see what happens.
I don't doubt there's a few people that have been dying to say 'I told you so' about him losing it though.
Unacceptable! Pep should have been in the spot Jose's sitting in. Where is Klopp and Poch???
He said that? That's despicable if you ask me. Is there a link or something?
RESPECT RESPECT RESPECT
It made me laugh for a second that.
Prick.
Intresting because there are plenty of videos with match going fans being interviewed after games lambasting Jose and praying for the day he leaves.
Think it’s safe to say there are many varying accounts of what is the actual mood, maybe people will show support against oppo fans but really think he is done, maybe they don’t. I just hope he continues in the vain of the last 2 games and doesn’t revert to type.
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Was always sticking a mile out that in the absence of a true RW, Lingard was our best option. Might not be the most clinical but offers pace and urgency and follows instructions.
Lingard makes most of our attacking movement ticks thanks to him not stopping moving off the ball and in space. He's always an option to give a pass then give it to someone else and so on. Makes everything ticka for his 2 partners as they're never isolated. He always shows up for them.
Match going fans don't really ever boo our manager. When I've been to games - whether it was under Moyes, LvG or José - I've never booed them despite, at one point or another, wanting them all out.
I especially wouldn't boo José at the minute as in our last two games we've shown some really promising signs despite losing one of them 3-0.
So the manager has to be likeable for us to play exciting football?
Agree. If Sunday wasn't exciting, then I don't know what people are expecting.
For some, even playing like peak Barcelona won't be enough, as long as Mourinho is the manager.
In public we are there to support whatever is put on the pitch regardless. Jose could field 11 youngsters or he could trot out Sir Bobby in the starting 11 I really couldn't give a shit either way who he plays I will support them from the second a united boot hits the turf until the kit man is last off the field.
It's the same attitude most away fans of any club will have. It's why you'll still hear the away ends sing even when they are getting thumped 5-0. It's a feck you were still going to have a good time and support the team.
And that's what Burnley was. It was a feck you to the worlds media and opposition fans. We're not going to give you ammo to attack our manager with, we're going to do the exact opposite and chant the mans name for as long and as loud as we can. We are not feeding into your narrative feck you.
In private away from worlds media of course there are various opinions week by week but no one is talking about him being sacked that is just nuts.
I watched a few of the fan cams from Full time devils and united we stand from burnley and I can only think of one video where a passer by wanted him out. I go to everything and i know a lot of regulars and that is not the mood at all from my experience.
I had a brighton fan chat to me about this the other weekend and he was of the opinion all United fans wanted him out. I couldn't quite believe what I was hearing. It's obviously media that are putting this seed in peoples heads.
I'd like to see some of these Jose out people post their opinion after a 3 week hiatus from all media. I'd like them to attend games in that period and form their own opinion after that not parrot some pundits opinion or worse still some scabby daily mail journo.
Like this for example I laughed my way through this Bullshit yet many lap this stuff up. They won't even read the article or the source. They won't question the motive for writing such a piece or who any of the sources are.
For kicking a door hahahahah feck me this tit who wrote this has done some job stretching his word count out.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/marcus-rashfords-dressing-room-reaction-13189091
Like this for example I laughed my way through this Bullshit yet many lap this stuff up. They won't even read the article or the source. They won't question the motive for writing such a piece or who any of the sources are.
For kicking a door hahahahah feck me this tit who wrote this has done some job stretching his word count out.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/marcus-rashfords-dressing-room-reaction-13189091
Just curious, since I don't seem to know protocol...is the correct thing to do after 60 minutes of decent football against helpless Burnley to line right back up behind the squad and manager and think all the problems have gone away?
Not necessarily, but at least acknowledge that we did play good football in that game. Some can't even bring themselves to admit that, because of their hatred of Mourinho, and just keep at it with the awful football comments.
I genuinely go back and forth on Mourinho. He is often a depressing character and his football is not entertaining - that seems more than fair criticism. But also, I tend to think he is actually close to maximizing the potential of the current squad, which is quite overrated by supporters and pundits alike. That he might be maximizing our potential doesn't earn him enough goodwill from me personally because if we aren't winning anything important, then the least I could ask for is to be consistently entertained.
Indeed.
Who needs opposition fans, when our own "fans" are doing their job for them.
And let's not forget, it's not just the manager being called out, the players are also getting negativity directed towards them, after only 2-3 games.
I saw/heard mobile phone footage of LVG being booed very hard, during that disastrous December.
Nobody who wants Jose out has even quoted that article or said they believe in it. In fact, no-one believes he has lost the players at all, even those who criticise him for his management of Martial.
Let's keep a level head. Those who want Mourinho out are obviously basing their views on the shite football for the past 2 years. While some think he's close to a breakthrough for the better after seeing the first half against Spurs and Burnley.
Both have valid points. I think it's possible to criticize or praise the manager equally without being accused of "not supporting the club" or "relying on Journos" etc.
September is a crucial month. This will be the time Jose settles the debate one way or another. I think both Jose supporters and haters can admit that we will either see clear improvement or continued decline by the end of the month, doubt there's scope for ambiguity anymore.
I think it's interesting that both Jose and the players have mentioned in interviews that the way forward is playing positive football. I think Jose is more responsive to criticism than we give him credit for. He saw poor results and immediately praised the fans.
I think he's planning on playing more attacking and I don't see evidence that he's parking the bus at all (which I am very sensitive to and hate with a passion). Besides the 25 minutes against Leicester City after our early goal, we've played more pressing and somewhat aggressive football.
I'm thinking this could be a pivot point for Jose... Because to be very fair (in criticism as well as praise) he has certainly drawn up some dire game plans in the past (both with United and Chelsea), many of which have been successful but hard to watch. I'd love to mostly live and die by aggression and by our talent. I think we have the DNA to play aggressive and attacking football and I'd love for this to become our game plan. Even against City.
I think he's planning on playing more attacking and I don't see evidence that he's parking the bus at all (which I am very sensitive to and hate with a passion). Besides the 25 minutes against Leicester City after our early goal, we've played more pressing and somewhat aggressive football.
I'm thinking this could be a pivot point for Jose... Because to be very fair (in criticism as well as praise) he has certainly drawn up some dire game plans in the past (both with United and Chelsea), many of which have been successful but hard to watch. I'd love to mostly live and die by aggression and by our talent. I think we have the DNA to play aggressive and attacking football and I'd love for this to become our game plan. Even against City.
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