José Mourinho | 2018/19 Performances

[Kapardin]

I absolutely cannot see us playing a possession based football with players like Lukaku, Sanchez and the back 4 we have. It's just not gonna work unless we play in our own half like we did with LVG.

Didn't say that. Merely cited Pep as an example of a manager with a proper system and idea in place.

Counter attacking football or pressing would work. Some of our players are lazy cnuts who like to slack off but can probably be forced to run and press if the manager cracks the whip.

 

[Smithy89]

Don't agree with that. Our squad is better than Chelsea's. On a par with Liverpool. And slightly off City because of their strength in depth. Sacking him won't change things overnight because we still have some deadwood but with the right appointment we can certainly take the game to teams like Brighton and Leicester.

Our squad might be on par or better than Chelsea's and Liverpool, but that's no use if we don't know how to attack or use the talent we have.

We are way off city, they had Mahrez, Sterling and Sane on the bench vs Huddersfield. All three would walk into our first 11. Laporte, Kompany and Stones are also all better CB's than anyone we have. And they have proper fullbacks.

 

[steffyr2]

Didn't say that. Merely cited Pep as an example of a manager with a proper system and idea in place.

Counter attacking football or pressing would work. Some of our players are lazy cnuts who like to slack off but can probably be forced to run and press if the manager cracks the whip.

There's a riot if Mourinho even slightly frowns in their general direction, so that's not going to happen.

Maybe you're saying that Mourinho should be fired because he was too mean to the players? And then the next guy will be able to crack the whip, and the players won't just laugh?

 

[RedorDead21]

It won't. Even Zidane, Pochettino or Jardim won't be able to get a tune out of Valencia or Young. Shaw is mediocre, goal and assist not withstanding. I have doubts as to whether he is suited for a Top 4 club. Lingard and Rashford are bang average and I don't think they will ever be anything more than squad players. Martial too is highly overrated.

However, we do have Sanchez, Lukaku, Fred, Pogba and Matic. That's a decent spine right there. Add Pereira who appears creative as well. If we hired a manager with a specific vision like Klopp's high intensity or Pep's possession based football, we can get a lot more out of these 4-6 players than what Jose is getting. While our FBs are still a problem and CBs are still inconsistent, an attacking manager would probably get us scoring more goals. Case in point -- against Brighton, if it had been an attacking manager and we were 2-0 down due to our poor defense, we could still hope to create a number of chances via Pogba, feed Lukaku and Martial, and score the 4 goals we needed to win the game. As it is, it ended 3-2 -- imagine if we created more chances?

Our problems run deeper than the manager, but the manager is a part of the problem and exacerbates it. We have no system or identity.

Lets look though at Jose's other teams I could never pin point a style of play other than them been great cohesive teams that play damn effective football. Not pedestrian but dangerous. Then I look at the players and he had at those teams and I defo look and see an improvement on ours. But ours I put 50% down to him so he's not without blame there. I think back to the CL game his Real vs us with the Nani sending off. They played pretty much like this United team over both legs. We were better until the sending off. They had superior players and Danny Welbeck was prob our best player with Van Persie missing some absolute sitters. Jose was on the touchline with Modric with 30 seconds of the red. Modric changed the game. They all looked like they knew their roles they all passed well and attacked well. I find it baffling we blame Jose for how the players are playing when I'm not sure he's the type of coach to instruct players to that preciseness of where to be and where to pass etc...I think he just leaves more than we think to the players. When we went defensive after the first goal scored against Leicester I don't think any message was given to the players to do that for instance....

Would be interested in what chelsea and Real fans have to say.....

 

[dove]

Didn't say that. Merely cited Pep as an example of a manager with a proper system and idea in place.

Counter attacking football or pressing would work. Some of our players are lazy cnuts who like to slack off but can probably be forced to run and press if the manager cracks the whip.

Pretty sure that's exactly what Jose wants to do but imagine counter attacking with Mata or our back 4 constantly hoofing the ball... Of course a new manager could improve things but I just cannot see us challenging City with a team like we have and people will want a new manager gone if we finish 2nd anyway so what's the point...

 

[Kapardin]

There's a riot if Mourinho even slightly frowns in their general direction, so that's not going to happen.

Maybe you're saying that Mourinho should be fired because he was too mean to the players? And then the next guy will be able to crack the whip, and the players won't just laugh?

It means he doesn't have a proper cohesive system for attack.

We are not a possession based team, though we usually have the lion's share of possession. We are not a counter attacking team as we don't always do that either. We are not a pressing team, though we do some half arsed pressing and then slack off. We don't play quick one touch forward passing either. We are a mix of everything but master of nothing and that's due to Jose.

A manager who has one specific style would be good. LvG had it in that possession based football, but obviously that style was a bad fit for us.

Pretty sure that's exactly what Jose wants to do but imagine counter attacking with Mata or our back 4 constantly hoofing the ball... Of course a new manager could improve things but I just cannot see us challenging City with a team like we have and people will want a new manager gone if we finish 2nd anyway so what's the point...

I doubt that's his vision for us, though he is that way traditionally. Thing is, when he came to United, he said he wanted to implement attacking football. I think he himself is torn between his usual style and the pressures of bowing to the club's expectations, and it has resulted in an ugly mess. Never a good thing to hire a manager and ask him to adapt his style, better get it right from the off.

 

[Canagel]

City is miles ahead, not slightly. Chelsea and Liverpool have much more balanced squads, I mean seriously how can we call ourselves as one of the biggest clubs in the world not having a single RW for 5 years now? It's a joke.

City is miles ahead because of the manager. I know our fullbacks are poor but City had poor fullbacks a few years back and didn't look as clueless as us going forward. We had Martial and Rashford on fire and they've regressed in the last few years as well.

 

[Smithy89]

Pretty sure that's exactly what Jose wants to do but imagine counter attacking with Mata or our back 4 constantly hoofing the ball... Of course a new manager could improve things but I just cannot see as challenging City with a team like we have and people will want a new manager gone if we finish 2nd anyway so what's the point...

Third season at the club and he still doesn't know his best 11 or how we're suppose to play.

 

[AngliaRed]

City is miles ahead, not slightly. Chelsea and Liverpool have much more balanced squads, I mean seriously how can we call ourselves as one of the biggest clubs in the world not having a single RW for 5 years now? It's a joke.

Agree, we should of signed Robben years ago and gave him what he wanted. Other than Mbappe and Bale ( when fit ) there aren’t many successful RW in world football.

 

[RedorDead21]

Agree, we should of signed Robben years ago and gave him what he wanted. Other than Mbappe and Bale ( when fit ) there aren’t many successful RW in world football.

mane would have been fine or Mahrez we don't need world class players we need top quality and they are just that.

 

[AngliaRed]

mane would have been fine or Mahrez we don't need world class players we need top quality and they are just that.

Agree, Mahrez would of been brilliant, if he was open to coming to us.

 

[Rolaholic]

Wouldn't trust ESPN FC tbh.

BBC have reported the same

 

[jymufc20]

Jose's best before date has expired!!
United need a manager who can build a team not try to buy one.
The nucleus is in place, it just requires a steady hand and a plan.

Give it to Carrick till end of the season ?

 

[iamkiranks]

Mourinho IS definitely part of the problem as the CEO, the owners and the players themselves.

Jose had warriors, not players at Porto, Inter etc. He used to motivate players to bring the best out of them. That is how he won at Porto and Inter even with large share of average players.

He cannot motivate our players anymore. Seen many games from his first season at United, where players didn't look bothered. Why can't he make them fight, or at least make them try?

Many of us are okay with pragmatic football for now at least, if it gets us some trophies, but we should at least show some desire to win.

 

[sp_107]

Swap deals like Toby/ Shaw, Sandro /Darmian and William/Martial with a bit of extra money on top would have got us a better team and these targets were not unattainable either.

At least this would have given a platfrom to give a go at tittle. Jose would have gone with a feeling atleast he tried with a better team in case he failed to achieve anything this year too.

Over all, The downside in his reign is his signings in last 3 years. Just better than Moyes and LVG but not great.

 

[UnofficialDevil]

Maybe its because Rui Faria left.

 

[AlwaysRed66]

Give it to Carrick til the end of the season...

I keep seeing comments like this. Give it temporally to Carrick; to McKenna; to Giggs; to Meulensteen (failure at Fulham); Phelan (failure at Hull) etc, but what are they like managing a team, what philosophy do they play. We want someone who at least plays attacking football, not someone who plays another disjointed negative way & out their depths as manager.

Personally, & I know this is not going to be popular, but if Mourinho does go early on, I would offer it to Wenger, if he wanted to come. At least he knows how to attack, & no doubt improve a lot of our offensive players like Martial & Pogba. This would be a short term managerial period until the end of the season, similar to the one Benitez took over at Chelsea, which ended quite well.

 

[bosnian_red]

On the other hand, we play such a defensive solid formation because he fears what can happen if we open up. It's not fair to criticise the attackers when the handbrakes are constantly on, would the same players deliver less in a more attacking formation?

I don't believe they would.

The problem lies with the fact he doesn't rate his defence, that's why we try and protect them so rigidly.

He plays a defensive system because that's all he knows. The defenders get exposed in it because of how much pressure they are always under, but we have the players (and defenders) to play a more front foot system and control games and dominate them through the system used. We would score far more and probably rely on de gea less then we do now. It's a team that's not suited to playing Mouriho style football, but he knows nothing else so can't get it to work.

 

[TheGame]

Jose should see this as a challenge to topple City and Pep and relish it. Instead, he's constantly moaning and groaning. Another sacking in similar situations to previous clubs (e.g lost the players etc) would tarnish his reputation as its become a constant theme. For example, Pochetino didn't get any signing either however approached the season with a positive mindset and came out that he had the right players. The impression you give as a manager is very important and Jose is just not giving the right one at the moment. He had a shopping,list, the players were either too expensive or not available. He should have identified alternative options with scouts whatever however he should accept the current squad as he can't change anything till the next window and work to get the best out of them.

 

[Minimalist]

Agreed.

I think people have convinced themselves that just getting rid of Jose will lead to a massive up tick in form, because they don't want to be confronted with the truth about where we are.

I actually think Mourinho is the best chance we have of getting competitive again.

No one doubts the squad needs improvement. Full backs specifically are a disgrace (literally only two natural full backs who aren’t even good plus a new youngster with potential). Don’t know why Mourinho was only targeting a fecking centre back when we have five of them (problematic as they may be).

However, that does not excuse us playing hoofball. Why? Because teams with even worse footballers don’t play this badly. Yes we got 2nd last season but even at our best, it was functional and we rarely looked convincing (hence why everyone was so depressed heading into this one - even before Mourinho started mouthing off).

He’s had enough money given to him now to justify an expectation that we don’t play like that. Anyone suggesting otherwise is just up Mourinhos arse at this stage.

 

[Sylar]

I doubt that's his vision for us, though he is that way traditionally. Thing is, when he came to United, he said he wanted to implement attacking football. I think he himself is torn between his usual style and the pressures of bowing to the club's expectations, and it has resulted in an ugly mess. Never a good thing to hire a manager and ask him to adapt his style, better get it right from the off.

I think he also said he wanted specialist players for positions
I think his hands have been tied to an extent so he's having to make do with what he's got

Before he signed there was a general feeling amongst the club that we needed a good 7 starters added and possibly 4 squad players
Heck before last season ended fans were still thinking we needed 6 more signings to really compete on all fronts

I think it's annoying that we got Jose, gave him an extension in January then didn't back him on his third year

 

[Sky1981]

At this point it's anyone but mourinho.

Blinkered I'd say. He might not be doing well but people are so naive if they think any jack and joes could have done better with our squad.

I'd be worried if jose cant fix us, it simply means we're actually more broken than we thought we were.

Jose has gone from clubs to clubs and normally and ussually he delivers his plan since day 1 ( whether you like it or not is another debate ). It took him 3 years and we're still clueless. I suspect something deeper than simply manager isnt up to scratch.

 

[el3mel]

At this point it's anyone but mourinho.

Blinkered I'd say. He might not be doing well but people are so naive if they think any jack and joes could have done better with our squad.

I'd be worried if jose cant fix us, it simply means we're actually more broken than we thought we were.

Jose has gone from clubs to clubs and normally and ussually he delivers his plan since day 1 ( whether you like it or not is another debate ). It took him 3 years and we're still clueless. I suspect something deeper than simply manager isnt up to scratch.

It's the state of the club post SAF.

Hail new manager as the best thing whenever we get him and say he'll solve everything, 2 years in charge with same results and the manager becomes the biggest devil and the reason for everything, sack him and get another manager he'll be hailed as the best thing ever before becoming the biggest devil later on.

Happened with LVG, happened with Mourinho and will happen with the next manager.

Post SAF and the failure of Moyes, the whole club has been run based on panic decision following another panic decision. No planning or thinking whatsoever. Other clubs around us have certain project that they're working on, while we go on panic in every appointment and every signing.

We're a terribly run club. No one in the club has any vision of building team.

I'm expect Mourinho to be gone by the end of the season and be replaced by Zidane who will follow the same trajectory as LVG and Mourinho as well.

 

[RedorDead21]

At this point it's anyone but mourinho.

Blinkered I'd say. He might not be doing well but people are so naive if they think any jack and joes could have done better with our squad.

I'd be worried if jose cant fix us, it simply means we're actually more broken than we thought we were.

Jose has gone from clubs to clubs and normally and ussually he delivers his plan since day 1 ( whether you like it or not is another debate ). It took him 3 years and we're still clueless. I suspect something deeper than simply manager isnt up to scratch.

Even if Zidane is struggling in year 3...he'll get the time to turn it around if the football is better. I know fans think this is a 2 year job for any manager but I think our fans and our history make it damn harder than it looks. Jose struggling so visibly even to his haters..they'll know its his biggest and only real failure to date! They'll only admit a deeper issue if ZZ fails so I think it's a necessary move....if it's done quick Pooch can have a few more years at spurs in his new stadium and then take over from ZZ

 

[Minimalist]

I’ll say it again but people seem to be suggesting that we can’t have picked three wrong managers in a row.

I really don’t see how that is unlikely given the very issues that they go on to mention (about the club as a whole, being reactive etc).

Get the right manager in (sort that out first) and we can maybe have some breathing space (and then turn attention to the signings, running of the club etc).

 

[RedorDead21]

I’ll say it again but people seem to be suggesting that we can’t have picked three wrong managers in a row.

I really don’t see how that is unlikely given the very issues that they go on to mention (about the club as a whole, being reactive etc).

Get the right manager in (sort that out first) and we can maybe have some breathing space (and then turn attention to the signings, running of the club etc).

Actually you seem to be suggesting to fix what we have been doing we should keep on repeating ourselves.

City had the right backroom staff in for Pep before he arrived. They started higher up.

We should hire a DoF if thats the case. Define what our long term strategy is with them and then advise the scouting to follow those principles and then look for the manager who fits in with that long term vision. That would mean ZZ probs because he ticks any long term vision I imagine we'll come up with whilst also playing good attractive football. That said we still need to work on the entire set up.

Manager first approach and then the bigger pic you might as well let the new manager dictate everything and if thats the road you go down everything will crumble with said manager.

 

[Rash Decision]

BBC have reported the same

Well then

 

[Jazz]

Jose should see this as a challenge to topple City and Pep and relish it. Instead, he's constantly moaning and groaning. Another sacking in similar situations to previous clubs (e.g lost the players etc) would tarnish his reputation as its become a constant theme. For example, Pochetino didn't get any signing either however approached the season with a positive mindset and came out that he had the right players. The impression you give as a manager is very important and Jose is just not giving the right one at the moment. He had a shopping,list, the players were either too expensive or not available. He should have identified alternative options with scouts whatever however he should accept the current squad as he can't change anything till the next window and work to get the best out of them.

This is what SAF would have done.....

Think Jose is just inflexible and worse, has lost all his confidence. Think he lost his confidence for quite a while now to be honest.
His ego is completely battered and the more things go against him, the more desperate he is to salvage his reputation. Instead of adapting though, he keeps doing the same things over and over, partly due to the fear of failure, and probably partly because he doesn't know how to change his methods.

 

[devil in me]

It's the state of the club post SAF.

Hail new manager as the best thing whenever we get him and say he'll solve everything, 2 years in charge with same results and the manager becomes the biggest devil and the reason for everything, sack him and get another manager he'll be hailed as the best thing ever before becoming the biggest devil later on.

Happened with LVG, happened with Mourinho and will happen with the next manager.

Post SAF and the failure of Moyes, the whole club has been run based on panic decision following another panic decision. No planning or thinking whatsoever. Other clubs around us have certain project that they're working on, while we go on panic in every appointment and every signing.

We're a terribly run club. No one in the club has any vision of building team.

I'm expect Mourinho to be gone by the end of the season and be replaced by Zidane who will follow the same trajectory as LVG and Mourinho as well.

This is very true. I hate to compare us to City, but look at the difference in their approach with bringing in Guardiola. They had that vision, and started putting it into practice, a long time before Guardiola arrived. They knew long ago what they wanted and how to go about it, appointing Tixi Bergtstein a couple of seasons before getting Pep etc. We don't have anybody high up who has the foresight to plan, footballing wise, for long term success. The appoinment of Jose shows us that.

The process of replacing Fergie was an utter disaster, and we still seem to be not only suffering from it, but intent on making the same mistakes.
Appoint Zidane (for example), but do so with big changes up above which will allow him to work effectively. Don't just sack Jose and bring him in with absolutely no change other whatsoever, because it will be the exact same story.

 

[el3mel]

This is very true. I hate to compare us to City, but look at the difference in their approach with bringing in Guardiola. They had that vision, and started putting it into practice, a long time before Guardiola arrived. They knew long ago what they wanted and how to go about it, appointing Tixi Bergtstein a couple of seasons before getting Pep etc. We don't have anybody high up who has the foresight to plan, footballing wise, for long term success. The appoinment of Jose shows us that.

The process of replacing Fergie was an utter disaster, and we still seem to be not only suffering from it, but intent on making the same mistakes.
Appoint Zidane (for example), but do so with big changes up above which will allow him to work effectively. Don't just sack Jose and bring him in with absolutely no change other whatsoever, because it will be the exact same story.

City and Liverpool are far more organized and planned clubs than us at the moment. Hate to say that and I don't like praising them, but it's the reality.

We have been SAF dependent on everything and became shambolic without his vision. He was the one organizing and planning for everything. Without him we got exposed on every level, not just on but also off the pitch.

 

[Kapardin]

City and Liverpool are far more organized and planned clubs than us at the moment. Hate to say that and I don't like praising them, but it's the reality.

We have been SAF dependent on everything and became shambolic without his vision. He was the one organizing and planning for everything. Without him we got exposed on every level, not just on but also off the pitch.

Quite true. One only needs to look at what's happening now - Ed briefing the media continuously, Jose alternating between "I am grumpy" and "I am happy", Pogba talking shite about fines and attitudes to the press while Raiola is running his mouth freely about club transfers on Twitter.

Ed was right. This really is adult Disneyland. At least Real do the circus thing while winning CLs, we don't even have that for consolation.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

I’ll say it again but people seem to be suggesting that we can’t have picked three wrong managers in a row.

I really don’t see how that is unlikely given the very issues that they go on to mention (about the club as a whole, being reactive etc).

Get the right manager in (sort that out first) and we can maybe have some breathing space (and then turn attention to the signings, running of the club etc).

Only problem I see with this is are fans and media going to give anyone enough time now to come in and do something. If we don’t make 4th 1 season will that automatically mean it’s time to get rid. Someone somwhere in the club is eventually going to have to stand up and say no this is what we are working towards and we’ll stay the path instead of just throwing money at the problem and resetting everything. (Ala what we did with LVG)

Personally I do think Jose’s time here is done, and if we brought in say Poch or Jardim at the end of the season personally i’d give them a lot of leeway to see what they are trying to do, I think both would have this squad playing better than it is or has shown but I do feel like Jose will get this squad to play much better than what we saw the other day and most of it is probably the lack of training our main 11 had together however he just isn’t right for this club, I think most knew that before he arrived but it was confirmed early on in that first season.

My fear is now that the unrest in the fans is going to be an issue moving forward with anyone and it’s going to lead to reactionary hiring sackings and so on with Woody basically looking for the Holy Grail.

 

[Minimalist]

Only problem I see with this is are fans and media going to give anyone enough time now to come in and do something. If we don’t make 4th 1 season will that automatically mean it’s time to get rid. Someone somwhere in the club is eventually going to have to stand up and say no this is what we are working towards and we’ll stay the path instead of just throwing money at the problem and resetting everything. (Ala what we did with LVG)

Personally I do think Jose’s time here is done, and if we brought in say Poch or Jardim at the end of the season personally i’d give them a lot of leeway to see what they are trying to do, I think both would have this squad playing better than it is or has shown but I do feel like Jose will get this squad to play much better than what we saw the other day and most of it is probably the lack of training our main 11 had together however he just isn’t right for this club, I think most knew that before he arrived but it was confirmed early on in that first season.

My fear is now that the unrest in the fans is going to be an issue moving forward with anyone and it’s going to lead to reactionary hiring sackings and so on with Woody basically looking for the Holy Grail.

If people could see what was being worked towards (and we were okay with the dream scenario of that), then I think people would be more tolerant. LVG had the most obvious *shudder* philosophy but we only saw a glimpse of it working well and it seemed to disappear (never to return) before he was sacked.

I still have no idea what Mourinho is trying beyond having us sit deep. I thought it was counter attack football but we don’t even counter attack.

 

[Backrow Singer]

If people could see what was being worked towards (and we were okay with the dream scenario of that), then I think people would be more tolerant. LVG had the most obvious *shudder* philosophy but we only saw a glimpse of it working well and it seemed to disappear (never to return) before he was sacked.

I still have no idea what Mourinho is trying beyond having us sit deep. I thought it was counter attack football but we don’t even counter attack.

Against the so called better teams, I think he does try and counter attack. Against the so called lesser teams, I think he tries to dominate possession but the issue with both of those is that we just don't have enough quality. We don't have enough quality defensively and I'm not sure we have enough quality in attack: Lingard, Rashford, Young, Martial, Pogba, all these players are so inconsistent with their decision making so we don't create enough chances. Suddenly you've got a situation where we look vulnerable in attack and defence. Lakaku didn't get enough quality early ball but missing that chance in the first half is inexcusable really. Second half we did get into decent areas but created nothing because we lack players who can consistently break teams down and I think it will cost Mourinho his job eventually.

The two you're looking at desperately now are Sanchez and Matic, particularly Sanchez. I'm still not sure where he fits in, maybe on the left with Shaw overlapping him but that still leaves you short of pace in behind because Lakaku isn't going to get into those areas and Rashford/Martial/Young aren't consistent enough with their deliveries in wide areas so what do you do?

 

[Foxbatt]

We are not defending well, we are not counter attacking, we are not attacking and we do not keep possession either. So I also do not know what the eff we are doing.

 

[Baxter]

Against the so called better teams, I think he does try and counter attack. Against the so called lesser teams, I think he tries to dominate possession but the issue with both of those is that we just don't have enough quality. We don't have enough quality defensively and I'm not sure we have enough quality in attack: Lingard, Rashford, Young, Martial, Pogba, all these players are so inconsistent with their decision making so we don't create enough chances. Suddenly you've got a situation where we look vulnerable in attack and defence. Lakaku didn't get enough quality early ball but missing that chance in the first half is inexcusable really. Second half we did get into decent areas but created nothing because we lack players who can consistently break teams down and I think it will cost Mourinho his job eventually.

The two you're looking at desperately now are Sanchez and Matic, particularly Sanchez.

There’s absolute not a chance we are worse in midfield than the like of Spurs and Arsenal who’ll dominate the ball more than us. Our attacking play is an absolute shambles and I’m not having that we have are much worse than some of the rest of the top teams. It’s a confidence issue, a coaching issue and a mentality issue. We play so reactive that we’ll never properly be on the front foot. Coupled with the fact that we aren’t even well organised, we are just shite.

 

[King Kana]

There's a riot if Mourinho even slightly frowns in their general direction, so that's not going to happen.

Maybe you're saying that Mourinho should be fired because he was too mean to the players? And then the next guy will be able to crack the whip, and the players won't just laugh?

Meanwhile Pep & Guardiola yell and rage and insult their players at times with no fanfare whatsoever. Just seen Klopp saying to his players run or I kill you. Pep having a proper go at Mendy openly etc.

You wonder why their players run like beasts non stop whereas Utd players behave like they own the club.

Player power and a soft as feck fanbase is going to ruin Utd.

Some of you lot are so panicked about a lack of genuine success you have no idea how to handle the status quo - asking for any flavor of the month to satisfy the high you are craving.

Also, people’s dislike for JM from board, stands, to pitch level are the undoing of this regime. You have a manager willing to change, barely picks fights anymore (except with Scouse & Berties), changed his backroom staff to try to play expansive so give him a chance and back him unequivocally and see what happens.

Or sack him right now and hire Zidane (under exact circumstances) and see what will happen.

 

[RedorDead21]

Meanwhile Pep & Guardiola yell and rage and insult their players at times with no fanfare whatsoever. Just seen Klopp saying to his players run or I kill you. Pep having a proper go at Mendy openly etc.

You wonder why their players run like beasts non stop whereas Utd players behave like they own the club.

Player power and a soft as feck fanbase is going to ruin Utd.

Some of you lot are so panicked about a lack of genuine success you have no idea how to handle the status quo - asking for any flavor of the month to satisfy the high you are craving.

Also, people’s dislike for JM from board, stands, to pitch level are the undoing of this regime. You have a manager willing to change, barely picks fights anymore (except with Scouse & Berties), changed his backroom staff to try to play expansive so give him a chance and back him unequivocally and see what happens.

Or sack him right now and hire Zidane (under exact circumstances) and see what will happen.

It won't be the same because ZZ plays a style people like and as a human being he's liked. That means a lot and will buy him the time he needs to change us providing he keeps us top 4 during his reign and does not sell Le God Martial

 

[Noc-Z]

Replacing Mourinho will solve nothing. That's not to say he's the best man for the job, but he's just part of a much bigger problem.

The owners want one thing from United - to make money. Woodward is a money man, without a football brain. Ferguson left a squad needing a complete overhaul. A team should never need an overhaul it should be a natural on-going process. Ferguson chose Moyes. Who was completely under-qualified for the humongous task at hand. LvG was totally incapable. Jose needed a complete break from football after his Chelsea sacking. He seems depressed and devoid of ideas and motivation. He just seems miserable and hasn't looked up to it from day 1. We made expensive mistakes - Di Maria, Falcao, Sanchez and, yes, Pogba (he's an immature diva - more social media star than footballer).

If Mourinho took over directly after Ferguson, maybe it could have worked. He maybe could have kept the winning mentality going and been more capable of rebuilding that squad. But it's too late now, Moyes was the really big mistake!

I don't see Mourinho turning things around now whatsoever. I don't think we have the players to do it either.

 

[Backrow Singer]

There’s absolute not a chance we are worse in midfield than the like of Spurs and Arsenal who’ll dominate the ball more than us. Our attacking play is an absolute shambles and I’m not having that we have are much worse than some of the rest of the top teams. It’s a confidence issue, a coaching issue and a mentality issue. We play so reactive that we’ll never properly be on the front foot. Coupled with the fact that we aren’t even well organised, we are just shite.

I don't think we are worse in midfield but I don't think we are good enough in attacking areas or high areas, or at least not consistently. I don't think we have enough players high up the pitch who can weigh up the options, beat the man and pick the right pass/cross. Too many of our attacking players or wing/full backs aren't consishant enough with their decision making and when you've got defenders making mistakes as well, you're going to struggle.

You're probably onto something with the "reactive" comment, I think he needs to give them more guidance so they've got more of a chance of puttting themselves on the front foot.