He should've been sacked after the Sevilla game. Scott McTominay wouldn't get k to the squad of any of our top 6 rivals but starts over Paul Pogba in the biggest game of the season?
He's an egotistical clown
He's an egotistical clown
José Mourinho | 2018/19 Performances
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Really? Honestly think Eddie Howe would do a better job.
Buck stops with him as the manager/coach but bloody hell, the players let him down today.
His times up now because the players are well and truly against him, the lack of fight and spirit in our players today, it’s obvious they’ve turned on him.
I don’t understand that mentality from professionals myself but I hope the club is decisive in whatever next steps it takes.
His times up now because the players are well and truly against him, the lack of fight and spirit in our players today, it’s obvious they’ve turned on him.
I don’t understand that mentality from professionals myself but I hope the club is decisive in whatever next steps it takes.
At some point these results can't just be blamed on the players and board,other managers manage much better with much much less.
I've had enough of these disasterclass performances against minnows over these last few years after years of squishing them like bugs under Fergie.
I came across a stat yesterday that showed that Poch is undefeated against freshly promoted sides,United have lost at least once to one in each of the last 4 seasons. It's become embarrassing truly
Manchester fecking United always playing on the backfoot against lower sides was unthinkable back then yet it's now become the status quo.
The poor results would be at least somewhat bearable if there were any semblance or a cohesive attacking philosophy yet here we are, in year 6 after Fergie's retirement, looking and aimless as ever and playing a dross brand of football with no particular upside
I've always wanted to give Jose a chance to fulfill his entire contract but if he's not getting through to them anymore or has lost the dressing,it'd be much more beneficial to the long term to cut their losses sooner rather than later as they did under LvG until CL football was officially out of reach.
Getting tired of it though. Said the same under Moyes and same under LVG, it gets to a point where it’s obvious it’s not working and nothing it getting better. I think it goes far deeper than the manager. Another manager would just run in to the same issues.
Scholes completely laying into us.haven't seen it but I can imagine that exchange.
Phil Neville is a moron.
The worst thing is that he hasn't said one thing that isn't true.
Yup.
Said it before but I could at least see what Van Gaal was trying to do. He was stubborn and failed to succeed but part of me still was left wondering 'What if?' when he left.
I have no idea what Mourinho is doing. No idea what plan he has for our team. It's back to Moyes again.
You should have sacked him before the season, I think. The transfer period and the lack of transfers from you guys showed quite clearly, that your board doesn’t trust him anymore. Which I think is a fair assessment. But it baffles me, that you still keep him for the season. He was a lame duck already before the season even started. I mean on top of all the issues that were already there, this is just a bad sign for the whole club. Everybody knows that your coach is on probation. So do the players. This rarely ever works. But I think with Mourinho, someone who lives so much of his aura, his authority and the atmosphere he can instill into a club, that was pure poison.
Not reallt. You hire a manager that is suited to us!
Jose was right in wanting a leader of a center back in his defense. There are no leaders in the team, no one with character.
However, any manager we have should be able to muster more of a response from his team when 3-1 down at half time, two years into his tenure at United. The lack of fight is the sackable offense. I also worry about if Pogba has the mentality to stay and perform for us.
However, any manager we have should be able to muster more of a response from his team when 3-1 down at half time, two years into his tenure at United. The lack of fight is the sackable offense. I also worry about if Pogba has the mentality to stay and perform for us.
Maybe
We as fans probably need to lower our expectations for the coming years. With or without Jose.
He definitely could potentially- not that I'd endorse him at all!
our performance levels since January have been worse than Moyes. We've eeked out some results but when was the last time we played well 2 or 3 games in a row?
who has improved or performed at their level under Mourinho? Lingard, Young and De Gea perhaps
His time as a top manager has been and gone, we run less than anyone and are easy to play against. I’m this era if you don’t press teams you make it easy for then, sitting off and parking the bus won’t get us anywhere near city.
There is clearly no emphasis on attacking, movement, cohesion etc and if there is then the coaching and tactics must be abysmal.
It won’t be long until City have a 9-10 point gap and competition for top 4 will be tougher, sadly I have no doubt his time is up and he will fail. How long that takes to confirm and be recognised by the board might take until end of the season but cannot see anything changing.
There is clearly no emphasis on attacking, movement, cohesion etc and if there is then the coaching and tactics must be abysmal.
It won’t be long until City have a 9-10 point gap and competition for top 4 will be tougher, sadly I have no doubt his time is up and he will fail. How long that takes to confirm and be recognised by the board might take until end of the season but cannot see anything changing.
Jose is simply not getting through to them, and I think that comes down to his personality. It's all fine to blame players for not doing what the coach says, that's a valid criticism in the first season. However, this is Jose's third season. His system is not even very complicated to adapt to compared to Pep's and yet the players don't see to have been given the tools to perform their task, or their instructions are simply unclear. I'm not even reacting to today's performance, because I can understand they're a bit rusty and still nowhere near peak form but I'm under no illusion that this shit show will continue well throughout the season with moments of brilliance, one would hope, peppered here and there.
I fear that things will have to get a lot worse before they sack him. Like top four mathematically impossible bad.
Terrible performance today.
He's a poor fit for us and appears to be well past his peak. Let's get someone else in.
He's a poor fit for us and appears to be well past his peak. Let's get someone else in.
Everyone can see the writing on the wall, it's a matter of when rather than if now but unfortunately I can't see us doing it till December at least. This season is going to be a write off and then we will start with a new manager and go through the same cycle again
Aye. I don't think he's even close to being fired right now.
Agreed mate. Said something similar in the match day thread.
I hated the LVG era. His football was boring as hell, but you could see what his plan was. We looked well coached and well drilled and we dominated possession in most games (even if we did feck all with it).
After two years of Mourinho I still have no idea what he’s trying to do. It’s car crash stuff!
Was a big Jose fan when he came in. Now I wouldn't be opposed to him leaving.
Both Moyes and Mourinho have been shocking appointments really in hindsight. Completely against what United supporters want to see. We just assumed Mourinho's record would mean winning trophies and we wouldn't care about the football.
LVG was a fecking wildcard option that went bad.
LVG was a fecking wildcard option that went bad.
All 3 of those managers are outdated. That's been the problem. A progressive manager is needed to get the club to enjoy its football.
Same here mate.
No excuse of having shite players. Sarri has the likes of Pedro and Willian who are as average as some of our players and Luiz who's been as dodgy at the back as some of our defenders. Fecking Morata as striker too. Yet you can see he's implementing some system.
The feck are we playing though? It's not a pressing game though there is some half arsed pressing, it's not a quick passing game since there are a lot of slow/sideways passes, it's not a possession game as we don't actively seek the ball, it's not counter attacking as we rarely do counters well and it's not even completely long ball football as we don't always go for route one.
It's a lot of nothing.
The feck are we playing though? It's not a pressing game though there is some half arsed pressing, it's not a quick passing game since there are a lot of slow/sideways passes, it's not a possession game as we don't actively seek the ball, it's not counter attacking as we rarely do counters well and it's not even completely long ball football as we don't always go for route one.
It's a lot of nothing.
Won't be showing up
In less that one fecking month too FFS!
He won't. This is going to be his last top job. May be Milan or Inter would be desperate enough to give him a job. Good luck trying to buy a new team in those clubs.
I supported him when he came but now his credit is up. Its not that we are losing by playing well but losing by playing terrible football. With LVG we played possession football and got bored. With Jose we cannot even do that and we still lose. I have a feeling the end is near for him. This lot of players should be able to play a lot better than what we are doing.
It's astounding that Jose is in his 3rd year and the team still lacks style. It's difficult to tell whether the team is coached to play in a particular manner.
If only Woodward managed to sign many of those Sevilla players that would fit in Mourinho's team...maybe we'd grab a win today
He has too many matches like today where there is lacking any ideas or cohesion. If he can't get his act together sooner, just let him go. I don't want to see Utd in 16th by Christmas.
Bingo. Were stuck in the past.
It's actually irrelevant if his tactics are the issue. If he can't motivate the team to show any type of fight or effort in the 2nd match of the season then he needs to go. More shite performances like that will get him the back in month's time.
Mourinho has improved us massively. Maybe he just needs to inherit Aguero/Silva/KDB/Sterling/Kompany.
You could bring in Sacchi with Capello as his assistant and you wouldn't win a league with this trash squad.
You could bring in Sacchi with Capello as his assistant and you wouldn't win a league with this trash squad.
Exactly. Conte, Sarri, Klopp, Pochettino, Bielsa at fecking Leeds and fecking LvG made an instant impact on their teams. We could see what they wanted to implement, this United team is utter shite.
I dont want to complain but everyone and their grandmother can see that Brighton had a idea or plan to play this match while Mourinho had no clue at all and looked shocked from the bench.
I wish we had Sarri..I watched Chelsea vs Arsenal game and you could see what kinda of football Sarri wants to play and if he can implement it over 90 minutes game then it would be the most beautiful football in the world. Yes its better than Peps football while we are stuck with Mourinho.
I wish we had Sarri..I watched Chelsea vs Arsenal game and you could see what kinda of football Sarri wants to play and if he can implement it over 90 minutes game then it would be the most beautiful football in the world. Yes its better than Peps football while we are stuck with Mourinho.
If he inherited Aguero, Silva, KDB, Sterling and Kompany he'd still have them playing cowardly hoofball all game. Aguero would be totally isolated, KDB and Silva will be far back in our own half and practically occupying the same position, Sterling would be made to cut inside and offer no width and Kompany would be hoofing it all game.
Or he'd win the treble just like he did at Porto/Inter. Or set the spanish goalscoring record like he did at Madrid.
Like you haven't after any of the wins?
Needs to go. The team has no obvious strategy other than sit deep and hope for the best. There's no coherence to our play at all. We don't do anything well. It's laughable.
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