Clasie isn't anything special at all. Maybe in a couple of years, but atm he isn't.
Jordy Clasie
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Not United quality. Will end up at Villa, WBA, Swansea. Mid table clubs
I agree. Probably a back up level for us as a maximum level he can reach. He's not much different with Cleverley to be honest. But who knows may be we are wrong.
We'd probably get snubbed by him too anyway 
I think Clasie can be a good replacement for Fletcher. Given that Fletcher's entering his 30's and is a shadow of a player he used to be, getting Clasie to replace him doesn't sound like a bad idea, to me.
Then again, that option's viable once we have two great midfielders in our team by that time.
Then again, that option's viable once we have two great midfielders in our team by that time.
Just tweeted a picture of himself as a boy with a young RVP.
Read into that however you like.
Read into that however you like.
FIFA reckons he's solid so I wouldn't mind.
The express has us going for him and Martins Indi for a £30 million double fee. Now thats nonsense.
I expect us to pay less about £10 million for Clasie and a lot less for Indi. He wasnt even Feyenoord's best defender last season
I expect us to pay less about £10 million for Clasie and a lot less for Indi. He wasnt even Feyenoord's best defender last season
What does that mean? What's he saying?
My Dutch is rusty but I think that translates to 'see you soon'. pls
Roughly translates to "A few years back"
"See you in Manchester"
Looks like a scouse. I had the same feeling when i saw Buttner. Pass.
Wow no wonder we are in 7th place if people seriously think Clasie would be the answer to our midfield problems, how mediocre can you be ?
One worldy pass to RVP in the game versus Ecuador and the media make him the new dutch Scholes/Xavi and people actually fecking buy into to that and want him ? Probably the same people that have been having digs at Fellaini for not being good enough, but than they come up with Jordy Clasie, ok he is mayaby more the actual type of midfielder we need, but in terms of how good he is
(This guy wasn't even good enough for Tottenham...)
One worldy pass to RVP in the game versus Ecuador and the media make him the new dutch Scholes/Xavi and people actually fecking buy into to that and want him ? Probably the same people that have been having digs at Fellaini for not being good enough, but than they come up with Jordy Clasie, ok he is mayaby more the actual type of midfielder we need, but in terms of how good he is
(This guy wasn't even good enough for Tottenham...)Wow no wonder we are in 7th place if people seriously think Clasie would be the answer to our midfield problems, how mediocre can you be ?
One worldy pass to RVP in the game versus Ecuador and the media make him the new dutch Scholes/Xavi and people actually fecking buy into to that and want him ? Probably the same people that have been having digs at Fellaini for not being good enough, but than they come up with Jordy Clasie, ok he is mayaby more the actual type of midfielder we need, but in terms of how good he is
Do you need to have a 50m price tag in order to be a good midfielder? reading some of the posts on here it would appear to be the case. I don't know anything about Claise or most of the other young Dutch players we've inevitably been linked with, but I know a man that does, and if he thinks they're good enough then that's ok by me.
Clasie now follows Van Gaals daughter on twitter. Read into that what you will.
LVG would have him assasinated rather than sent on loan to cardiff
LVG would have him assasinated rather than sent on loan to cardiff
I am with you, our fans give our scouts the easiest job in the world.
"Just sign somebody for 50 million who was bought 2 seasons ago for 100 euros from Luverdense rather than do any work yourselves".
Keep pissing our money up the walls every opportunity you get, its 100% impossible to win the league or get to a champions league final without spending a quadrillion pounds on your squad.
Apparently.
It's nowt to do with how much he costs, anyone who's seen a lot of him will realise he's not good enough for is and is by no means an improvement on what we have. I doubt van Gaal rates him that much as he wouldn't be at the World Cup if Holland weren't riddled with injuries.
I'm not being funny, but people were saying the exact same thing about Strootman last season.
We're not really buying him, are we?
Wow no wonder we are in 7th place if people seriously think Clasie would be the answer to our midfield problems, how mediocre can you be ?
One worldy pass to RVP in the game versus Ecuador and the media make him the new dutch Scholes/Xavi and people actually fecking buy into to that and want him ? Probably the same people that have been having digs at Fellaini for not being good enough, but than they come up with Jordy Clasie, ok he is mayaby more the actual type of midfielder we need, but in terms of how good he is
Best let LVG be the judge of that.
Strootman stood out for PSV though, if you watched Feyenoord Clasie wouldn't be someone you'd look at as a stand out player before a few others. He's not close to the level Strootman was at last year.
Clasie is not on Strootman's level.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2076766-why-manchester-united-should-sign-jordy-clasie
Looks pretty good to be me.
----------In a summer where Manchester United simply have to rebuild their midfield, it’s unsurprising that stellar names such as Toni Kroos, Cesc Fabregas and Arturo Vidal have all been linked with a move—but maybe the relatively unknown Jordy Clasie is the one who should make the switch to Old Trafford.
“The Dutch Xavi,” as he has been dubbed, has all the attributes to succeed in the Premier League, and joining United would make sense.
Diminutive, he may be, but don’t be fooled—Clasie has enough bite and tenacity about his play to fill one of the three midfield slots that Louis van Gaal tends to favour in his starting lineups.
At just 22 years old, the Feyenoord man doesn’t have the experience required to single-handedly reinvigorate United’s midfield, but there’s no doubt that he could work well alongside another dynamic midfielder.
With many of Van Gaal’s targets on show at this summer’s World Cup, the newly appointed United boss will watch on intently.
Maybe, just maybe, the Dutch national team manager will be keeping a close eye on one of his own players—Jordy Clasie.
Clasie Has the All-Round Game to Succeed at United
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What’s important for United this summer is that they sign midfielders who are effective in a defensive and attacking capacity.
Yaya Toure and Fernandinho made a mockery of Michael Carrick and Marouane Fellaini at the Etihad last season, which is why any new midfielder joining United must possess the ability to mix it with the very best in a technical and physical sense.
Kroos and Fabregas just don’t fit the bill in that regard, but Clasie does; he has the all-round game. What he lacks in raw strength he makes up for in determination and work rate.
The only concern would be playing both him and Juan Mata in a midfield three. Size certainly does not matter when it comes to carving out a successful career in football, but having both Clasie and Mata in the same midfield might be a step too far.
Regardless, it’s crucial that United draft in someone who can win the ball in midfield and, at the same time, offer a creative spark. Clasie is very much that type of player.
In the Netherlands’ World Cup warm-up game against Ecuador, Clasie demonstrated his panoramic vision and range of passing, particularly with his assist for Robin van Persie’s stunning goal.
The technique in his clipped pass forward, as the video illustrates, was outstanding. It was the type of pass that United dearly missed last season. Carrick, Fellaini and Tom Cleverley all seemed reluctant, if not incapable, of delivering such probing, incisive passes.
After the game, Van Persie was quick to heap praise on his young compatriot, per Goal.com:
That pass made the goal possible. That was a world class ball. That pass gave me the opportunity to do my thing. I think that pass was more beautiful than my goal. The only thing I had to do was control the ball and score. That pass from Clasie was world class.
For United fans, that duo linking up on a frequent basis at Old Trafford would be a welcome sight.
And while it would be ludicrous to sign a player based on one pass, never mind one game, it’s precisely the kind of play that epitomises the young Dutchman.
The following compilation video demonstrates further the type of player Clasie is, although not all clips are from the last season.
As the video shows, Clasie is a ball winner, a competent passer and he has a quick turn of pace that allows him to carry the ball forward with intent.
That’s the kind of player Clasie is, and that’s precisely what United need.
He may not be tested at the very highest level, and he would need to be complemented by another physically capable midfielder, but Clasie is a classy player. United would be wise to invest in him.
Clasie Could Spearhead a Dutch Invasion
Remy de la Mauviniere/Associated Press
Somewhat inevitably, United have been inked with a number of up-and-coming Dutch stars following Van Gaal’s appointment.
Clasie is just one of those mooted to make the switch. It may be a question of how many Dutch players join Van Gaal at United, not if they do.
And that’s no bad thing.
In the FA Chairman’s England Commission report, released at the beginning of May, Dutch clubs were shown to be among the best when it comes to ensuring academy players fulfil their potential in Europe’s top leagues.
As the following graphic illustrates, Clasie’s current team, Feyenoord, are bettered only by Ajax, Barcelona, Sporting Lisbon and Real Madrid in terms of producing top players. In fact, the Netherlands have five clubs in the top 18.
Number of academy-trained players in Europe's top 18 clubs.
All of that is to say United fans shouldn’t be concerned about Clasie and Co. not being up to scratch; there is a long-standing precedent of Dutch players thriving in Europe’s elite leagues.
With a Dutch theme in mind, it’s important to consider whether Van Gaal will also target Roma’s Kevin Strootman, a player who United really should have signed last summer.
Despite the fact that he won’t return from a knee ligament injury until the end of 2014—at least, not to full fitness—there have been suggestions that Van Gaal will make a move for Strootman in this transfer window, per Ben Jefferson of the Daily Express.
Should that move materialise, will Van Gaal want to have Strootman and Clasie playing together?
There’s absolutely no reason why the two Dutch midfielders couldn’t form a successful partnership in the heart of United’s midfield, but Van Gaal may opt for more diversity. And if it comes down to a shootout between Strootman and Clasie, Strootman will likely come out on top.
Will United Make a Move for Clasie?
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With Van Gaal supposedly ruling out a move for Kroos and Fabregas, per Simon Jones of the Daily Mail, the list of available world-class central midfielders is getting shorter.
Inevitably, United fans will be concerned.
They expect world-class midfielders—quite fairly, perhaps—but systems, formations and tactics will always be more important than the personnel involved.
It’s the reason why Liverpool and Atletico Madrid enjoyed such successful seasons last year; they had very few superstars but were managed and set up in the right way.
Clasie is very much a player who could work well in the system that Van Gaal will likely adopt at United next season. Playing alongside another midfielder, sat behind Wayne Rooney or Mata, he could really shine.
And if Clasie impresses Van Gaal in the next few weeks, then there’s no reason why bringing him to United should be seen as a step down from Kroos or Fabregas.
Clasie is much closer to what United need right now than that duo, and he would be following in the footsteps of his current national team manager, which could help him settle.
After all, there may yet be some room for Clasie in Van Gaal’s suitcase when he makes his own way to Manchester.
Looks pretty good to be me.
Have you ever watched him or are you basing that off just reading that article?
They say it about most players.
lets not beat around the bush on this subject, our midfield options at the moment are hopeless.
Carrick looked like he was playing in a coma last season, Cleverley and Ando have had their chance, delivered nothing and need to be dumped, Felliaini is a complete waste of space and Fletcher looks like the Fletcher of 4 years ago just without the stamina.
ANY competent dedicated midfielders would be better than what we currently have.
Literally anybody, whether its Kross, Sweinsteiger ,Vidal, or Smith, Dewbury and O'Neil from my Sunday league side any of them would be an improvement on what we have.
Anybody thats genuinely thinks that a couple of half decent competent midfielders wouldn't VASTLY improve our side is off their nut.
Exactly this. In fact, I can recall some posters saying they'd rather have Clasie brought in as he was the better player and was outperforming Strootman on the U21 international stage, Strootman being "average", judgement based on that tournament alone. I wonder how many of these people actually watch Clasie or previously Strootman on a regular basis.
I have only watched him play on the national team.
If we let Fletcher, Cleverly, Anderson and perhaps even Fellaini go, then who knows who we bring in as back-up players. Someone like Daley Blind or Jordy Clasie are probably cheap options (unless they play an outstanding World Cup), already worked with Van Gaal and would be willing to be second or third choice for a season or two.
Van Gaal did the same at Bayern with Pranjic and Braafheid, and although that didn't really work out, Pranjic was an alright squad player and Braafheid only cost 1 million and Bayern got a small fee for him when he went to Hoffenheim I believe.
But if we are really looking for midfielders who can help us dominate the premier league, we'll have to come up with someone better than Clasie or Blind.
Van Gaal did the same at Bayern with Pranjic and Braafheid, and although that didn't really work out, Pranjic was an alright squad player and Braafheid only cost 1 million and Bayern got a small fee for him when he went to Hoffenheim I believe.
But if we are really looking for midfielders who can help us dominate the premier league, we'll have to come up with someone better than Clasie or Blind.
I have never seen Clasie play or had even heard of him before the pass against Ecuador. However it would appear LvG has heard of him, does know about him and if he signs him is saying loud and clear "I believe this player to be good enough to help Man Utd return to the top"
Thats good enough for me
Thats good enough for me
Agree completely. one of the two would be a good back up player especially someone like Blind who can play reasonably well in more than 1 position. But either would need a world class midfielder alongside them. Also it would not be good for our youth if they stand in the way of the progress of Rothwell and Pearson
Totally agree. Any midfield signing that is better than what we currently have would be a great signing.If we get too picky and only go for the best, the parade is going to pass us by. The good thing about this summer is we have a manager who doesn't think the way Woodward thinks, which is a great thing. This is not the time to think like a muppet. Create a reasonable target list and get it done. No fooling around. I have been saying this for a long time.
Many keep on saying that we need quality. However is it true? United can rely on an attacking unit made up of players like Mata, Rooney and RVP who are world class goalscorers and assist machine. We also have players like Kagawa and Nani whose record in terms of goals can't be understimated. Surely a team which has this sort of talent shouldn't end in 7th place. So what's going wrong?
Lets give a closer look to our more defensive side of CM. Ando and Cleverley are not defensive minded at all. Fellaini is slow and lacks both discipline and positioning to make it in that role. Carrick on the other hand has never been fast and seems in decline and I wonder how Fletcher has been able to stay at United for so long. Our Defensive side of CM is struggling badly and without ball winning and retention then you wont win even if you got Messi in the team.
Players like Strootman and Clasie would chase the ball all day long. They would win the ball and are technical enough not to lose it. This would allow the likes of Mata, Rooney and RVP to focus on their game.
There are other issues that need to be tackled. We need pace on the flanks and 2 defenders who would make the backline rock solid. However I wouldn't mind if United get the likes Strootman and Clasie especially if that means seeing some deadwood leaving our CM.
Lets give a closer look to our more defensive side of CM. Ando and Cleverley are not defensive minded at all. Fellaini is slow and lacks both discipline and positioning to make it in that role. Carrick on the other hand has never been fast and seems in decline and I wonder how Fletcher has been able to stay at United for so long. Our Defensive side of CM is struggling badly and without ball winning and retention then you wont win even if you got Messi in the team.
Players like Strootman and Clasie would chase the ball all day long. They would win the ball and are technical enough not to lose it. This would allow the likes of Mata, Rooney and RVP to focus on their game.
There are other issues that need to be tackled. We need pace on the flanks and 2 defenders who would make the backline rock solid. However I wouldn't mind if United get the likes Strootman and Clasie especially if that means seeing some deadwood leaving our CM.