[Chaky_Best]

Ok with the fact that Evans has to improve, but not totally ok with the fact that he has to move.

I think that in a club you must have 4 center back to compete.

Having Smalling, Evans, Jones + one top defender, we don't need to sell one

You'll talk about Rojo, but to me he's not good enough to be considered as a CB. I think that he'll be our LB cover.

And with Evans, Jones and Smalling been injury maxi prone, then it make sense to keep them

 

[DanNistelrooy]

I am a fan of Evans and coming into the season believed that he was our best defender (along with many others on here). He looked decent earlier in the season (around the time of the QPR/Leicester mathces) but since coming back from this latest injury he just seems weak, slow and unfit which has had a knock on effect on his confidence as can be seen in his poor distribution which has been brilliant over in the past. Bit worried about his future at the moment but still hopeful he can get back to his best.

 

[Sammyjunn]

I am a fan of Evans and coming into the season believed that he was our best defender (along with many others on here). He looked decent earlier in the season (around the time of the QPR/Leicester mathces) but since coming back from this latest injury he just seems weak, slow and unfit which has had a knock on effect on his confidence as can be seen in his poor distribution which has been brilliant over in the past. Bit worried about his future at the moment but still hopeful he can get back to his best.

You missed the matches vs MK Dons and Burnley I reckon? Vs Liverpool in pre season too, that was just embarassing stuff from him. He is an okay player, but nowhere near United quality. We want to become the best in the world again, just compare Evans to other defendees at topclubs..

 

[POF]

My biggest worry with Evans is that as a young player he was bullied a lot. It was a clear flaw in his game and probably why he looked better playing next to Vidic (also because Vidic made all of his partners look good). He is now 27 and has done nothing to remedy that. Any physical striker he plays against just humiliates him.

In the Premier League as a centre half you need to stand up and be counted or you need to be an absolutely phenomenal defender. Evans is/does neither. He's on the verge of being the number one defender at Manchester United and you would think he would do everything in his power to secure that spot. He clearly hasn't.

 

[Fergies Formula]

He is stealing a living, embarrassment.

 

[NinjaFletch]

My biggest worry with Evans is that as a young player he was bullied a lot. It was a clear flaw in his game and probably why he looked better playing next to Vidic (also because Vidic made all of his partners look good). He is now 27 and has done nothing to remedy that. Any physical striker he plays against just humiliates him.

In the Premier League as a centre half you need to stand up and be counted or you need to be an absolutely phenomenal defender. Evans is/does neither. He's on the verge of being the number one defender at Manchester United and you would think he would do everything in his power to secure that spot. He clearly hasn't.

Thats what I find frankly amazing about the whole situation. He's been at this club for this long and is still displaying the exact same frailties he did at 21, how no one in the club moulded him into a better player is baffling. Its a shame, because I think the raw attributes he possessed when he broke through should have seen him become close to World Class but he's been stagnant for years.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

He is stealing a living, embarrassment.

What a fecking dreadful post. Embarrassing.

 

[Getsme]

I am an embarrassment.

Fixed your post for you mate, you're welcome.

 

[DFreshKing]

Ok with the fact that Evans has to improve, but not totally ok with the fact that he has to move.

I think that in a club you must have 4 center back to compete.

Having Smalling, Evans, Jones + one top defender, we don't need to sell one

You'll talk about Rojo, but to me he's not good enough to be considered as a CB. I think that he'll be our LB cover.

And with Evans, Jones and Smalling been injury maxi prone, then it make sense to keep them

what about blackett and mcnair?

Blackett is going to be top drawer in my opinion and above all except Smalling already.

 

[marlowe78]

He is stealing a living, embarrassment.

No, he's working for a living and failing miserably at it.

 

[surf]

That Benteke free header in the second half (when Evans was standing next to him) was worrying. As was the goal, when Evans got under the ball in the first place. If you can't deal with physical strikers it limits your ability to play centre back effectively in the prem.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Evans always always gets bossed by the big players. I don't understand why Jones didn't mark benteke.

I wonder if fellaini played whether he would have defended him, as I would have felt much more comfortable with him doing it.

 

[roseguy64]

Really laughable the posts suggesting he's never been good enough. This is his first run of bad form since that season a few years back, can't remember which, where he was struggling against lower league players. Since then he's been solid to great with all of Jones, Smalling, Rio and Vidic beside him. Not just the latter two. Could count his bad games on one hand over those seasons. For some reason, he's lost all confidence and looks like a rookie. Areas of his game that were decent are now awful and parts that were great are now mediocre.

Last season he was one of the few defenders who was anywhere near decent so he's not been crap for years now. This is an anomaly if you look at his career in total. To suggest otherwise is being a liar. Comes at a bad time for him though with a new manager. Wouldn't be surprised if he's gone in the summer. He has to pick it up.

 

[Ekeke]

He was under par last season for sure

 

[Red Dreams]

Evans takes a long time to get back from injury to playing well.

I think he is a very good player. So unfortunate he gets injured so often.

 

[gooDevil]

The way he's looked this season I'd rather get someone else in.

If LVG wants his as backup then fine.

 

[Red_toad]

Nothing has happened, this is Johnny Evans.

He is making exactly the same mistakes he has always done, struggling against exactly the same types of players as he has always done and going completely to pieces in exactly the same situations as he has always done.

The difference being in the past he had Rio and Vidic and Evra to bail him out.

I find it incredible that a 27 year old professional centre back STILL doesn't know how to mark up, or to not pass it across the face of goal under pressure, or under hit as many passes, or to put it out when there is nothing on, he is terrible at reading the game, he consistently loses his man, doesn't track runners, gets done in air.....


If he played anywhere else he would be rated alongside Titus Bramble.

I cringe when I read posts like this, complete lack of any acknowledgement of good performances.

 

[Gannicus]

Woeful. Dire. Grim.

Jonny was a fantastic young defender three seasons ago, but that was three seasons ago.

 

[Loublaze]

He is stealing a living, embarrassment.

Harsh words, but you're right. These days he's either injured or on the pitch playing like shit.

 

[Getsme]

Harsh words, but you're right. These days he's either injured or on the pitch playing like shit.

Is it feck, some people in here need to get a grip of themselves.

 

[POF]

Thats what I find frankly amazing about the whole situation. He's been at this club for this long and is still displaying the exact same frailties he did at 21, how no one in the club moulded him into a better player is baffling. Its a shame, because I think the raw attributes he possessed when he broke through should have seen him become close to World Class but he's been stagnant for years.

I agree with your post but he needs to take most of the responsibility for this. Nobody at the club can force him to grow a set.

 

[Loublaze]

Is it feck, some people in here need to get a grip of themselves.

Hyperbole.

Evans is shit though. He's not proving his worth and he hasn't in over two seasons now

 

[Dumbat12]

Hyperbole.

Evans is shit though. He's not proving his worth and he hasn't in over two seasons now

Watch out, Getsme is like TheMadWinger on Evans subject. He can do no wrong.

 

[2 man midfield]

I think it's a myth that he needs either Rio or Vidic next to him to look any good, he has in the past shown signs of a promising partnership with Jones in a flat back 4. He's obviously struggling with both a new formation and coming back from injury. That's not to blame his fitness for exactly half his ineptitude however, he looked poor in the MK Dons game for example.

The way i see it is he's basically got 5 months to save his United career. I think one of the glass trio will be sold, and Evans looks the slowest on the uptake.

 

[Loublaze]

Watch out, Getsme is like TheMadWinger on Evans subject. He can do no wrong.

hehe I know this. Some say he's Evans himself! I wish Evans would vindicate him

 

[Loublaze]

I think it's a myth that he needs either Rio or Vidic next to him to look any good, he has in the past shown signs of a promising partnership with Jones in a flat back 4. He's obviously struggling with both a new formation and coming back from injury. That's not to blame his fitness for exactly half his ineptitude however, he looked poor in the MK Dons game for example.

The way i see it is he's basically got 5 months to save his United career. I think one of the glass trio will be sold, and Evans looks the slowest on the uptake.

Thats not a good excuse. He played in preseason and got out shined by Blackett. Even McNair came in when least expected and did a job in a back three. Evans is our most experienced player yet least adaptable. All people have in his defense are weak excuses

 

[Viral United]

I think Evans really struggles in back 3,
He needs to play in back 4 formation.

 

[Loublaze]

I think Evans really struggles in back 3,
He needs to play in back 4 formation.

So LVG should change his planned formation for the sake of Evans? What if LVG wants 3-5-2?

 

[2 man midfield]

Thats not a good excuse. He played in preseason and got out shined by Blackett. Even McNair came in when least expected and did a job in a back three. Evans is our most experienced player yet least adaptable. All people have in his defense are weak excuses

It isn't an excuse, it's an explanation. I've been pretty outspoken about how poor he's been this season in various threads.

 

[Ducklegs]

I cringe when I read posts like this, complete lack of any acknowledgement of good performances.

Any good is wiped out by the bad.

It's like staying with a girlfriend who keeps fecking around because some times she doesn't feck around.

Why don't you tell us what qualities he does have?

 

[Red_toad]

Any good is wiped out by the bad.

It's like staying with a girlfriend who keeps fecking around because some times she doesn't feck around.

Why don't you tell us what qualities he does have?

Nothing like a cheating partner, unless you think he makes errors that are intended?

I don't need to identify his qualities, go watch some older games when he had established defensive colleagues & wasn't coming back from injury.

 

[Getsme]

Watch out, Getsme is like TheMadWinger on Evans subject. He can do no wrong.

Point me to where I said he can do no wrong? Show me one post where I said that.

hehe I know this. Some say he's Evans himself! I wish Evans would vindicate him

You're hatred for Evans is so deep that you refuse to see or accept how good a player he has been for us in the past, the fact that you have to resort to childish remarks just adds to my thinking that you haven't got a fecking clue what you're talking about.

 

[Nighteyes]

I think Evans really struggles in back 3,
He needs to play in back 4 formation.

How does playing in a back 3 excuse or explain his shit back passes this season or the fact that he's physically not up to it?

Any good is wiped out by the bad.

It's like staying with a girlfriend who keeps fecking around because some times she doesn't feck around.

Why don't you tell us what qualities he does have?

Your opinion that Evans has always been shit is wrong though. Out of all our CB's he was best on the ball before this season. Not sure what's happened to him.

He's been utter shite this season mind and I'm not sure why some have problems in accepting that.

 

[Getsme]

Hyperbole.

Evans is shit though. He's not proving his worth and he hasn't in over two seasons now

He was one of our better players last season, why can't you accept that

 

[POF]

He was one of our better players last season, why can't you accept that

Was he? What games did he particularly impress in? Genuine question.

 

[Getsme]

How does playing in a back 3 excuse or explain his shit back passes this season or the fact that he's physically not up to it?



Your opinion that Evans has always been shit is wrong though. Out of all our CB's he was best on the ball before this season. Not sure what's happened to him.

He's been utter shite this season mind and I'm not sure why some have problems in accepting that.

I wouldn't say utter shite, he hasn't been as bad as some are making out but he needs to improve his performances sharply. I don't think playing in a back three is the issue, for me it's purely down to confidence and not having much of a pre season.

 

[Getsme]

Was he? What games did he particularly impress in? Genuine question.

Did you watch any games last season? Did you watch the champions League?

 

[POF]

Did you watch any games last season? Did you watch the a champions League?

Yes. I watch pretty much every United game every season.

I am not saying he wasn't. I am asking you which games he particularly stood out in for you. I don't really remember any standout performances from him although there could be plenty I don't remember - so I am asking you to remind me. I remember he and Jones being utterly abysmal at home to Stoke. Maybe I only remember the bad ones.

 

[Loublaze]

Any good is wiped out by the bad.

It's like staying with a girlfriend who keeps fecking around because some times she doesn't feck around.

Why don't you tell us what qualities he does have?

 

[Loublaze]

I wouldn't say utter shite, he hasn't been as bad as some are making out but he needs to improve his performances sharply. I don't think playing in a back three is the issue, for me it's purely down to confidence and not having much of a pre season.

He traveled to the states and that tour was the bulk of our preseason. Evans played in a few games including the final against Liverpool in Miami where he was subbed at halftime for Blackett. Am I forgetting something?