An absolute coward of a player who instead of taking his opportunity as the most senior defender to step up has instead completely regressed. will be 27 in january, and i dont see a place for him once we bring in a proper established cb.
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- Appearances
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- Clean sheets
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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I reckon they'd have him if he was on the market. Similar to the Welbeck deal in that it'd make perfect sense for them.
Nah, nowhere close. Fwiw I said this last season and, I think, the one before that. We gambled it all on Smalling, Evans and Jones and none of them looks like they have a chance at being as good as what we want them to effectively replace (along with Rojo who is, IMO, a million miles away). I think LVG being here is good as he has no ties to any of them. If they don't raise their levels then he'll be brutal and they'll either be gone or they'll end up playing the O'Shea role which, without his versatility, might well end up being a bit sparse in terms of appearances.
He annoyed me today with his slowness on the ball. Took an age to make up his mind what to do with it and most of the time ended up instead going backwards. Struggling for form and confidence at the minute clearly while trying to build up his fitness. Needs to up his game very soon.
Not comparable, Welbeck is a good striker, young, and offers something. Evans is poor, near his prime (you can hardly call it one) and offers close to nothing to Arsenal, as even Monreal on the CB is better.
Our worst CB by far. I voiced my concerns about how he'd handle Benteke's threat. This guy needs to go sharpish
He should be thankfulthat he'd injured himself during pre-season tour or else he could've been in the same boat with Nani, Kagawa and Welbeck. FFS our CB situation is a mess, even they do something wrong, they always can get away with it because LvG has no other choice.
The 352 has thrown him for a loop, it was evident dating back to pre-season against Liverpool where he had a mare. Evans is comfortably the least adaptable of our CB's and he needs to be in a back 4.
I don't know what's happening to him. It's like he gets scared of the amount of space around him. Another thing I don't get is why he has to constantly lash out on his mates. Phil Jones specifically seems to be at the receiving end.
Really bemusing.
Really bemusing.
Some thought Arsenal would take him? He wouldn't even start over Chambers. Its not like Welbeck, its like Cleverley
Would he get into that Villa team? On current form he wouldn't and they were without Baker who was one of the first choice CBs at the start of the season.
Would he get into that Villa team? On current form he wouldn't and they were without Baker who was one of the first choice CBs at the start of the season.
The new scapegoat. It used to be Smalling.
That said, he struggles against to many different types of strikers. Any striker whose main attribute as physical, either in terms of strength or speed, Evans struggles against. He isn't slow, nor is he weak, but he's not tough enough. He's been out for a while though, so let's go a little easier on him. He is, however, the defender I wouldn't shed a tear over if/when he leaves. He seems a very likable character though. Smalling and Jones are better and younger.
That said, he struggles against to many different types of strikers. Any striker whose main attribute as physical, either in terms of strength or speed, Evans struggles against. He isn't slow, nor is he weak, but he's not tough enough. He's been out for a while though, so let's go a little easier on him. He is, however, the defender I wouldn't shed a tear over if/when he leaves. He seems a very likable character though. Smalling and Jones are better and younger.
He's no scapegoat. He's just not good enough anymore. The deficiencies in his game are gaping. Smalling was a proper scapegoat for his stupidity against City but it had nothing to do with his actual performance as a CB playing for United.
Honestly in terms of Man Utd defenders in the last 10 years. I'd rank Brown and O'Shea ahead of him.
Brown and O'Shea are exactly what he isnt. Reliable and able to slot into multiple positions at a good level
It's not even that he got outmuscled by Benteke there, first he misses the header, then he gets dummied twice on two different sides, I mean come fecking on.
Add his new specialite de la maison a.k.a dodgy backpasses (like one against Liverpool), a drop in his passing ability (not the % but quality of those passes, he just doesn't do it anymore) and you've got very little of good points on him left.
Add his new specialite de la maison a.k.a dodgy backpasses (like one against Liverpool), a drop in his passing ability (not the % but quality of those passes, he just doesn't do it anymore) and you've got very little of good points on him left.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Both were versatile, useful players for us fairly often. Certainly wouldn't have Evans above them.
Brown pisses all over him. At least Brown never got bullied even when he got sent off.
I think its a bad thing that our standards have dropped for squad players since then. Evans should need to be their equal or be moved on like they were
Thought he was average today. Will be disappointed for being bullied by Benteke quite so much for the goal. Was too weak in the challenge and gave him too much time and space when he brought it down.
That said, I don't think he was particularly poor for the rest of the game so some of the harsh criticism on here is a bit too much for my liking. Thought he was composed on the ball and was quite vocal with instructions and team play when trying to build from the back. The limitations of our formation is that it gives time on the ball to the rcb and lcb and its a process for them to be quicker and more effective with it. it's a new way of playing and he'll adapt well in time.
That said, I don't think he was particularly poor for the rest of the game so some of the harsh criticism on here is a bit too much for my liking. Thought he was composed on the ball and was quite vocal with instructions and team play when trying to build from the back. The limitations of our formation is that it gives time on the ball to the rcb and lcb and its a process for them to be quicker and more effective with it. it's a new way of playing and he'll adapt well in time.
I thought that he was crap today, again.
Quite interestingly, Evans looked great (to not say world class) when he was partnered with a senior defender (Rio or Vidic) but looked bad when he is the senior defender. This season he has been very bad in every aspect of the game, with his passing being really bad and putting us on bad positions.
If he doesn't significantly improve, he'll be off soon enough. Would be really surprised if all three of Smalling, Jones and him will be here next season. And so far, he has looked worse than those two (with Smalling being the best by a distance).
Quite interestingly, Evans looked great (to not say world class) when he was partnered with a senior defender (Rio or Vidic) but looked bad when he is the senior defender. This season he has been very bad in every aspect of the game, with his passing being really bad and putting us on bad positions.
If he doesn't significantly improve, he'll be off soon enough. Would be really surprised if all three of Smalling, Jones and him will be here next season. And so far, he has looked worse than those two (with Smalling being the best by a distance).
Yeah, Brown was an absolutely excellent centre back, much better than Evans.
Agree hopefully at Sunderland or QPR cause he has a heart of a pea.
I'd rank O'Shea and Brown ahead of Smalling and Jones as well and I'm including these days there too.
Both were absolutely top class against Chelsea a week or two ago.
I'm not to sure what's up with Evans but if I was to take a guess id say a lot of it is down to confidence other than anything else. Either way he'd want to sort things out fairly quick as time mightn't be on his side.
Watching MOTD. Christ he was shit.
The defending for the goal 
It was even worse then I thought at the time.
It was even worse then I thought at the time.
He didn't hold the line, he shit himself to head it and then he showed Benteke on his strong side and then nearly set them up for a winner. Get rid ASAP he's a calamity.
Disappointing Jonny, really disappointing.
You're supposed to now be the leader of this defence, instead you're shying away and running your career at United.
You're supposed to now be the leader of this defence, instead you're shying away and running your career at United.
Smalling is well ahead of either as CB
I seriously struggle to understand how people who have watched us over the last few years can continue to be so absolutely oblivious to Chris Smalling's talent.
Wonder what happened? Was it all the injuries because he looked promising and now he just looks scared and has no idea what to do with the ball. I actually feel uncomfortable watching whenever he's near the ball.
Evans is not and never will be United quality defender. He always seems weaker than any opposition attacker and I always get nervous when the ball is near him because he never looks composed on the ball or positionally. If we are to step up to the next level, players like Evans need to be shipped out. He's also always teh first player I sell in every football manager game!
he makes mistakes like every other player, but his mistakes end up costly nearly every time. I dont know why people say it has to do with the 3-5-2 system, his passing and mistake today had nothing to do with the system. Just a lack of confidence, bad form and missing leadership partner. While not in form and coming back from an injury, it doesnt look good for him. Jones and Smalling are returning from injury constantly too, but play far better. He gets totally exposed as an average player these days.
Scapegoat for what? I think some are confusing making someone an arguably undeserved figurehead summing up an entire organisation or length of time, and just being generally a bit shit.
Yep! Even up to this day, Wes Brown is 10 times what Jonny Evans will never be.
Back on Evans: if he can't or doesn't want to man up and stop needing a leadership figure alongside at age 26-27, that says it all for me. Sell Evans and activate Laporte's release clause; you would solve the LCB problem in one go.
He's our worst CB atm, by a fair distance. Needs to improve his form or he'll probably be on the way out.
I don't understand how a central defender can be that weak. This isn't a new problem, he's been like this since I can remember.
He'l be off soon I reckon when we get another CB in. Our worst player there atm. Seems to have totally lost his confidence and him being so weak physically is a big problem anyways.
Don't think we should ship him out, but is is frustrating that injuries mean we have to start him while he is playing so poorly. The sooner Smalling or Rojo is back the better.
I've supported him for a while because of how much promise he showed between 19-24. I can't help but think now that a lot of that was from playing next to Rio or Vidic and having it dictated to him.
He's looking like our worst CB and unfortunately for him he is also our oldest. Makes perfect sense to move him on and bring quality in.
He's looking like our worst CB and unfortunately for him he is also our oldest. Makes perfect sense to move him on and bring quality in.
Inept.
The day he's sold is a day closer to getting our shit together.
The day he's sold is a day closer to getting our shit together.
Nothing has happened, this is Johnny Evans.
He is making exactly the same mistakes he has always done, struggling against exactly the same types of players as he has always done and going completely to pieces in exactly the same situations as he has always done.
The difference being in the past he had Rio and Vidic and Evra to bail him out.
I find it incredible that a 27 year old professional centre back STILL doesn't know how to mark up, or to not pass it across the face of goal under pressure, or under hit as many passes, or to put it out when there is nothing on, he is terrible at reading the game, he consistently loses his man, doesn't track runners, gets done in air.....
If he played anywhere else he would be rated alongside Titus Bramble.