Jonny Evans | 2011/12 Performances
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That's just it the 'brainfarts' happen too often. Sometimes they don't result in a goal but put us under pressure/on the back foot.
Lets be honest we would have won the league last season had vidic not got injured and this season our defence would look a whole lot better.
Very bad game. Let's hope its a one off
I know some posters have a massive agenda against Jonny, but to blame him for the five goals conceded against City after he was sent off is amongst the stupidest things I've ever seen on this forum, and that's some achievement.
He is by far the superior defender in what is presently (but hopefully not for much longer) our first choice CB pairing.
He is by far the superior defender in what is presently (but hopefully not for much longer) our first choice CB pairing.
Spot fecking on.
It's a fair counterpoint to the ridiculous big-uppin' he gets on here. He's a promising CB who has much to do.
What much would that be?
He does need to cut down his error rate. Still, that's a much better summary than pete would have given him a year or two ago. He'd've taken that in August.
He makes quite a few mistakes. But he can also defend really bloody well and his use of the ball is fantastic. Once he keeps improving and working hard he'll smooth out hose wrinkles and be a fantastic player for us.
He isnt though. He's performed better than Rio in some matches and Rio has performed better than him in others. Normally that statement would be impressive but Rio is so far from his former self. There's a reason why we have conceeded so many goals this season its not been a problem with the fullbacks. Being slightly the better of a CB partnership that leaks goals left and right doesn't make someone a brilliant CB.
Probably the most dissappointing part was last week he seemed to have turned a corner with dealing with balls in the air and physical opponents. This week they turned him inside out.
It's all about the keeper, not Evans. If the corner delivery is perfect and the movement good, there's sometimes little the defenders can do. So I don't blame Evans, sometimes the opposition just gets it right.
Amazing how so many underrate him.One bad match and you see plenty of "he should be benched", I think it's a disgrace and delusional.Man United isn't as strong as it used to be at the back
Evans is our best defender and one bad game dosen't undo his good work all season. Can't believe people are slating him for his performance yesterday when it was Rio who chose to go largely anonymous.
I know he should take much blame for the goals conceded but bloody hell that touch was Berba-esque.
I thought he wasn't terrible all game but as I said, he should and will take his blame.
I thought he wasn't terrible all game but as I said, he should and will take his blame.
What a frustrating player.
One week he looks like Beckenbauer, the next, Fitz Hall. He needs to cut this right out of his game if he is going to become a United great.
One week he looks like Beckenbauer, the next, Fitz Hall. He needs to cut this right out of his game if he is going to become a United great.
The positive thing is he looks more and more and more often like Beckenbauer than he does like Fitz Hall. He'll get more consistent in the next couple of years.
I hope so. The worry I have with Evans is we keep saying he is young, which he is for a defender, however, he has bags of experience now and these mistakes should be slowly being erradicated. Problem is, we have a good spell and then low and behold they appear again.
You can't get away with that to be first choice at United.
That's true, but if you think about it, how many bad games has he had this year?
He had a bad half along with many other players at the back and is a baby for CB terms, we won't see his best for another 2-3 years.
We just have to be patient with Jonny. Flashes of brilliance here, bonehead performances there. Yesterday is a day he'd like to forget. These things happen. He'll learn that you cannot lose concentration, no matter who the opponent is.
For a third or fourth choice CB Evans is no slouch at all, but I trust most caf posters will join me in hoping Vidic comes back quickly.
It's no secret our CBs have struggled badly most of the season. Some of that can be pinned on Rio, but some of that has to be laid on Evans as well.
For a third or fourth choice CB Evans is no slouch at all, but I trust most caf posters will join me in hoping Vidic comes back quickly.
It's no secret our CBs have struggled badly most of the season. Some of that can be pinned on Rio, but some of that has to be laid on Evans as well.
I agree, this season he has been more consistent, however, he has still made little mistakes, culminating in that display yesterday.
I think he is a very good squad player to have, just not convinced he has the consistency in his game, or the ariel ability, to be held in the same regard as Pallister, Bruce, Stam, Ferdinand, Vidic etc. .
"Please point out a goal this season we have conceded because of Evans"
"Two examples from last season,"
After 15 games you couldnt come up with one example, yet he "makes mistakes every game". Impressive for a ball playing CB to make mistakes every game without them ever leading to the opponent scoring. Magic.
I find it hard to praise Evans as 'excellent' when he's been a key part of a defence that has been atrocious, hopeless and not up to standard.
He's been the best Centre-back this season, that's about all the praise you can give him, and it's really not a very impressive feat.
He's been the best Centre-back this season, that's about all the praise you can give him, and it's really not a very impressive feat.
One of the first names I expect to see on the team sheet these days, even when everyone is fit I would have him has first choice CB.
Yeah am really surprised by reactions to his bad performances.
It takes a long time for people to accept that he's good and 1 bad game throws everything away and we're back to the "he's not good enough" tag.
I doubt the majority thinks that. However, most people who don't, tend to keep their keyboards locked up, whereas the knee-jerks type like it was a full moon.
Evans plays some brilliant matches, but I can't get myself to trust him. he is too prone to the odd mistake, and he isn't really strong enough as he is outmuscled fairly regularly.
He is terrific with the ball, though, and certainly offers the team a lot. But for me, I think Smalling is the better CB. He makes fewer mistakes, is stronger, a lot faster and a much better defensive header of the ball. Arguably, Evans reads the game better and he is a much better distributor.
Look at his age, its very rare to find defenders that age that dont make the odd mistake. Heck, its very rare to find any defender that doesnt make the odd mistake.
I think yesterday was one of those games. Everyone has them, even Vidic at his absolute best. Evans has become a very good CB who's still needing to work on eradicating mistakes from his game.
I do think we need to defend better as a team while there's uncertainty in and around our backline and keepers. Reading didn't get a sniff in the second half when we simply decided they wouldn't.
I do think we need to defend better as a team while there's uncertainty in and around our backline and keepers. Reading didn't get a sniff in the second half when we simply decided they wouldn't.
Wow plenty of over reactions in here since the game. Yes he had a poor first half, along with basically the whole back line. No surprises that he is getting singled out though.
He bounced back well in the second half. One poor half doesn't mean that he is rubbish. I'd still put him down as first choice CB for us
He bounced back well in the second half. One poor half doesn't mean that he is rubbish. I'd still put him down as first choice CB for us
His errors have crept back in but doesn't mean he is shit.
Very good defender and currently has to be first choice ahead of Jones and until Vidic returns.
Very good defender and currently has to be first choice ahead of Jones and until Vidic returns.
The error were from the entire back 4. Basic stuff was neglected
Yep.
I don't think it's possible for a defender to look good when the rest of your back line plays that bad. All of them deserved to be singled out, not just Evans. He did lose his man for at least one corner though, so I guess that's why he's the one taking most of the flak.
Why did he go off...did he get injured?
Yes
Is it serious, hopefully he will be back soon as he has been playing well.
I thought he was fantastic in the first half considering he was quite clearly playing injured.
He is a fantastic Centre Half
He is a fantastic Centre Half
Hamstring I hear.
It's just impossible to have all our CBs fit at the same isn't it ?
I don't think it is impossible I'm sure at one time we had Stam, Johnsen, Berg & Brown all fit.
Yep he's steadily becoming our best.