He lets men run off him, which is not good positionally!
Jonny Evans | 2011/12 Performances
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He lets men run off him, which is not good positionally!
Evans wasn't at fault for the second, that's Fletcher's man. Really pissed off with the senior players this season.
Yeah I'm not too sure it was his man on both the goals. Unless he changed his man after getting done the first time.
So defenders have to follow their attackers everywhere? Riiiiiiiight.
On a different note, that touch to bring down the ball that lead to us getting the penalty
Absolutely shithouse today. Soft on setpieces and really just gets bullied by most attackers.
On a different note, that touch to bring down the ball that lead to us getting the penalty
Yes it was to be fair brilliant touch.
You didn't say that though.
How have we been conceding goals in this match!? Did it really need saying!?
Fair comment though, I begrudging say!
Apart from Carlton Cole and Andy Carroll and Maiga in a long ball system ?
Aces opinion there.
Reactionary bollocks is another way of putting it.
He was poor defending the corners in the first half. Got away with the mistakes.
Alright.. he knows he can do better... and we know he can as well.
Not one to remember. Move on.
Alright.. he knows he can do better... and we know he can as well.
Not one to remember. Move on.
True. People are talking absolute bollocks here.
Btw good decent second half performance, good to see.
Thought he done ok second half.
Was dire, seeing as he seems to be a confidence player, I'm worried how he'll fare against City.
Did you watch the Second Half? He was poor in the first half and responded well in the second half.
He did 1 thing right all game, which was an unbelievable first touch that won the penalty. Just about every other choice he made during the game was the wrong one. Couldnt mark from set pieces, couldnt head the ball forward and he looked incredibly weak physically today. But as mentioned Ferdinand was almost invisible and Evra seems to think its someone else's responsibility to stop his man crossing the ball at will. So that didnt help. Still a dreadful performance and unfortunately not his only one.
Better second half. Some of you are incredibly harsh on him. His first half was wank but did ok in the second.
Sorry that's just laughable. Showed on more than one occasion in the Second Half a calm head when ball's were played in behind him and showed good ball-playing skills rather than lumping the ball out and giving possession back. First Half was poor yes but the notion he couldn't head the ball forward or consistently made bad choices is bullshit.
You would think that all the stereotypes about Evans being "dominated by big center halves" would be finished by now.
He's been fantastic this season. One poor half and suddenly some people think he isn't good enough.
He's been fantastic this season. One poor half and suddenly some people think he isn't good enough.
Love Evans but, was very poor today. 2nd half misjudged some balls for whatever reason. Oh well - at least he got it out in this game. Should be back to his best next week.
Poor today along with Rafael and Lindegaard. It happens, him and Rafael have been pretty decent this season, need to pick it up next week and bring back DDG.
Was wank today...no doubt.
Lets hope the bad game is behind him and has a scorcher against Shitty.
Lets hope the bad game is behind him and has a scorcher against Shitty.
Jonny needs to raise his game. He's far too prone to horror mistakes. He's been good at times this season but rarely ever more than just good. Time for him to man up. We can't keep allowing opposing players point blank shots on our keepers. Unless, of course, we want to FedEx the trophy to City overnight.
Vidic is supposed to return soon. The sooner, the better.
Vidic is supposed to return soon. The sooner, the better.
Who kept a clean sheet against West Ham on Wednesday?
Must've been Smalling's influence, letting Evans dictate his positioning.
fecking knee-jerk bull-shit aimed at a player rarely out of the MOTM votes.
Must've been Smalling's influence, letting Evans dictate his positioning.
fecking knee-jerk bull-shit aimed at a player rarely out of the MOTM votes.
And it's just a coincidence that our defence has gone to shit since he's been a regular? Stop looking at the glory clearances and look at the 90mins of each game he plays.
Evans was again fantastic on the ball but very sloppy with his defending.
Evans has in general been very good this season. He'll play next week, and will do better than he did tonight.
He's played well for around a season and a half now but he's always prone to these performances slightly too often for my liking which does make you question whether he will nail down this spot for us. I don't think he will personally but he'll still be a great back-up defender to have as most of the time he is very dependable.
He was a stalwart in the record run of clean-sheets, a couple of years ago.
Some people can't seem to get over the five goals City scored AFTER he left the field.
Some people can't seem to get over the five goals City scored AFTER he left the field.
And why did he leave the field?? Another massive cock up! The fact is forwards are now aware, if you put him under he WILL make a mistake.
He has come a long way since that sending off, your making it sound like he gets mugged off every weekend which clearly isn't the case.
Get a fecking grip!
Is he the only player sent off like that?
I suppose Vidic is shit for getting a red against Liverpool?
Keane must've been bloody awful.
What goals have we conceded this year, that you consider to be wholly down to Evans?
He generally makes at least one mistake a game, not always resulting in a goal but a good opportunity and when comparing to somebody like vidic, who was more like a miatake, once a season it's pretty horrific.
'Stalwart' is a bit of an exaggeration though. While he was important in that run of clean sheets, the fact was that Vidic, having the season of his life and one of the best defenders in the world, and Van Der Sar, again being incredibly solid in goal and one of the best goalkeepers in the world at that point, were a lot more crucial to the team than Evans was. No doubt that Evans did play well during that run, but circumstance benefited him massively. It's not a criticism; just that he's not as crucial for that run as people say.
And nobody is unable to get over that City game. Of course, his rash sending off was a reason why City could cut us open towards the end easily, meaning he is partly to blame, but it's not as if it's the only bad game he's had in the past year. He's come on massively and is now a good defender for us who will continue to improve, but he still has plenty of flaws to his game as well.
So he is good with a good partner and goalie, but dodgy partnered by Rio and Anders?
That argument kind of cancels itself out, don't you think?
Or were the clean sheets despite him?
What player has no flaws?
Vidic consistently gets away with fouling because of his lack of agility. Rio has more afternoon naps than Sir Bobby.
Their general standard is excellent, as is Evans', but only one is criticized for not being perfect every time.
He was goal side and some how managed to reverse that to then take Balotelli out, it wasn't just a mistake it was a catastrophic cock up. To this day I don't know how he managed to get into that position!
Yes if a team sits off us and he has time to bring the ball out of defence he looks great but like today when he's put under pressure, he makes mistakes. Lets also look to the 4-4 home draw against Everton last season, not just the odd mistake but mistake after mistake.
Wake up he's not ever going to be a top class defender, another poster suggested a comparison to Brown, personally I think that's very harsh on Wesley.
Come on man...I'm often critical of Jonny but its quite a generalisation to suggest he's responsible for an apparent decline in our defensive capabilities. The problems go deeper than one player.
To be fair he has arguably been our best defender this season. Had an array of brainfarts today but so did the whole backline...Rio was awful and I'm a huge fan of his so I don't say that lightly.
First goal v Everton was Rafa getting out-jumped at the far post.
Second, Fellaini volley after ball went over Rio in no-man's-land.
Third beat Fellaini in the air, Jelavic beat Rafa to the loose ball to score.
Fourth, gets done by Fellaini who squares to Pienaar with Rio flat-footed.
To choose that game to have a pop at Evans, shows how clueless you really are.
http://www.soccer-blogger.com/2012/...ck-nani-jelavic-fellaini-pienaar-goals-video/
Watch the full game again.