I've just listened and it just comes across as a classic right wing GB News type that rattles out buzzwords like 'woke agenda' and 'journalistic standards' while contradicting themselves and waffling about basically nothing for 20 minutes. Just a complete moron.
Joey Barton - ex manager - wannabe podcaster
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Joey Barton is unlikely to win many admirers through any football expertise he may possess. Nor is he the type of man many would be happy to see on a Sky or BBC. Hence, he's resorting to these desperate efforts to appeal to football's intersection with Andrew Tate fanbase.
Gave yourself away with this bit. Unlucky though, good try.
So, basically, half our country
Was listening to the Alan Brazil show on talkshite yesterday and they were discussing Barton's comments. You could just tell Brazil was desperate to say he totally agreed with Barton, he actually said he had his right to his opinion and the game isn't the same.
The women's is defo a different level and a different intensity but ultimately it's the same game so that's a load a bollocks to start with and they also have the same eyes we do. So why would they not be able to give a valid opinion on the game as a man would?
Fair enough they haven't played men's professional football but neither have 99% of people writing and giving their opinion on it.
The women's is defo a different level and a different intensity but ultimately it's the same game so that's a load a bollocks to start with and they also have the same eyes we do. So why would they not be able to give a valid opinion on the game as a man would?
Fair enough they haven't played men's professional football but neither have 99% of people writing and giving their opinion on it.
31 games for United, '84-'86,definitely top level...
I'm sorry but Alan Brazil and Anglobabohor (misspelled on purpose) talk so much shit it's a massive crime against humanity to give them any attention.
It's an obviously nonsensical argument.
When you have managers like Jose Mourinho managing top level teams despite never having played professional football, and countless journalists and content creators being paid to provide insight into tactics without ever having played professional football, why on earth would you be unable to have commentator's who haven't played professional men's football specifically?
When you have managers like Jose Mourinho managing top level teams despite never having played professional football, and countless journalists and content creators being paid to provide insight into tactics without ever having played professional football, why on earth would you be unable to have commentator's who haven't played professional men's football specifically?
That's all well and good to say and you often hear ex pros say things along those lines but then ex-pros are some of the worst and least insightful pundits going. So yeah from a playing perspective the likes of Joey Barton have more authority to speak about football than someone like Mourinho did when he was starting out at Porto but it often doesn't mean very much.
These people were serious footballers playing hundreds of club matches, qualifiers, World Cups, Euros and Cup finals. They're perfectly qualified to talk about football.
A good pundit should be someone who is able to think perceptively about the mechanics of the game and talk articulately about it.
You don't need to be an elite player to do it that. The huge number of elite coaches across every serious sport who were non-elite players attests to that. He's wrong.
F*cking duh.
A good pundit should be someone who is able to think perceptively about the mechanics of the game and talk articulately about it.
You don't need to be an elite player to do it that. The huge number of elite coaches across every serious sport who were non-elite players attests to that. He's wrong.
F*cking duh.
It's also complete self-interest in it too, protectionism. If you say only players of a certain level can be pundits, then you're protecting jobs for those who played at that level.
The only way Barton could have ever had a point would have been if the male pundits were actually any good and capable of providing this experience-based insight, which they aren't.
The level of analysis is, at best, superficial. Even when Sky wheel Neville and Carragher out with the interactive screen it's just to rehash analysis from the weekend's papers (which has almost always been written by sportswriters and not ex-pros).
We've spent absolutely ages complaining about the likes of Redknapp, Souness, Merson, Owen, Jenas, etc. talking complete shite, and even the more bearable pundits do little more than state the obvious.
As for talking from experience, you watch someone like Paul Scholes get asked what preparations are like for a big European away game and he'll inevitably mumble something like "well you obviously travel over and then you'll train, and then it's just a case of hoping you get a good night's rest before the game."
I remember Stephen Warnock confidently claiming that Red Star Belgrade were a part-time team with plumbers in their line-up, and who can forget Michael Owen's "when they don't score, they hardly ever win"?
Also, Micah Richards or Rio Ferdinand being involved anywhere is just a race to be as loud as they can as quickly as possible.
By and large, the female pundits I've seen have at least tried to provide some level of insight and seem to have done at least a little bit of research, which automatically makes them more qualified than the half the clowns from the men's game that get a seat in the studio.
The level of analysis is, at best, superficial. Even when Sky wheel Neville and Carragher out with the interactive screen it's just to rehash analysis from the weekend's papers (which has almost always been written by sportswriters and not ex-pros).
We've spent absolutely ages complaining about the likes of Redknapp, Souness, Merson, Owen, Jenas, etc. talking complete shite, and even the more bearable pundits do little more than state the obvious.
As for talking from experience, you watch someone like Paul Scholes get asked what preparations are like for a big European away game and he'll inevitably mumble something like "well you obviously travel over and then you'll train, and then it's just a case of hoping you get a good night's rest before the game."
I remember Stephen Warnock confidently claiming that Red Star Belgrade were a part-time team with plumbers in their line-up, and who can forget Michael Owen's "when they don't score, they hardly ever win"?
Also, Micah Richards or Rio Ferdinand being involved anywhere is just a race to be as loud as they can as quickly as possible.
By and large, the female pundits I've seen have at least tried to provide some level of insight and seem to have done at least a little bit of research, which automatically makes them more qualified than the half the clowns from the men's game that get a seat in the studio.
Seems like Barton has been turned down for some punditry work. Stupid fecker has put two and two together and got 15. Instead of understanding he is a bell end, it must be the fault of the ladies. He's picked the wrong hill to die on. His "I have a wife" argument is so classic for this type of view.
I just watched that and he's all over the place. He hasn't got a point at all apart from woke agenda and tokenism.
Loads of male pundits are absolutely brutal and he's not complaining about journalistic standards there. He also refuses to answer the question about whether he should be commentating on Champions League/World Cup and I notice he's not having a go at the fan cam lot either, it's only the female influencers he seems to have got a problem with.
It has to be said it was an bbsolutely shit-show of a spectacle, that Piers had no interest in controlling at all. He didn't even allow each person to have a back and forth with Joey so it descended into everyone speaking at once and the American anti-feminist added nothing at all.
Loads of male pundits are absolutely brutal and he's not complaining about journalistic standards there. He also refuses to answer the question about whether he should be commentating on Champions League/World Cup and I notice he's not having a go at the fan cam lot either, it's only the female influencers he seems to have got a problem with.
It has to be said it was an bbsolutely shit-show of a spectacle, that Piers had no interest in controlling at all. He didn't even allow each person to have a back and forth with Joey so it descended into everyone speaking at once and the American anti-feminist added nothing at all.
Imagine how an ex-convict with a litany of problematic actions and views who never even played Champions League football level isn't wanted by the best broadcasters.
Disgusting scrote. I cannot stand him. If anyone hasn't read his thoughts on his brother 'losing 17 years of his life' in jail for the racially motivated killing of a teenager with an ice axe, that should tell you everything you need to know about his character.
When he was manager of Bristol Rovers I knew two people who gave up their season ticket in protest of him managing them. Horrible man by pretty much all accounts.
When he was manager of Bristol Rovers I knew two people who gave up their season ticket in protest of him managing them. Horrible man by pretty much all accounts.
Ends his tweet with #Namaste 
Namast..ay in bed Joey
Namast..ay in bed JoeyI don’t think ‘authority’ means much here. Much more important to be smart and articulate. A smart, articulate female ex pro will be infinitely better as a pundit than an inarticulate, dumb male ex pro. So long as they’re hiring pundits purely on their merits as pundits then this isn’t a problem. However there’s a good chance this isn’t a meritocracy. Which is an issue for pundits of both genders.
For anyone who still wants to think this was ever actually about commentating...
This thread among other 'controversial' threads is really bringing out some people's 'inside voices' out loud.
Couldn't all of that apply to male players sending women naked pics, ruining relationships etc?
This is one of those things that are so all over the place, tangential and strange that it's actually really hard to argue against.
He can't even make a coherent point there.
Should have had his twitter account banned when he insisted of including the goalkeeper when writing out a formation a few years ago. "1-4-3-3" twat.
And also, there were male players participating in the adultery for it to have existed
He's a fecking imbecile.
That’s an insult to imbeciles.
He's having a complete meltdown.
Started calling himself the king of twitter.
Also pretending to be retired rather than unemployable.
Started calling himself the king of twitter.
Also pretending to be retired rather than unemployable.
He was a crock by the time he signed for us. Our history of signing players with serious injury or fitness issues is a long and distinguished one.
Yeah tbf if he's doing things like that in addition to this sort of quite irrational, outlandish commentary, it might actually be that he's had some sort of flare up of a psychiatric issue
I think it's more likely he was sacked as Birstol Rovers manager at the end of October, begged the broadcasters for some punditry work through November and got ignored because he's a known dunce, but tuned in one night to see Karen Carney on a panel and screamed "THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME" at the TV.
And now we're here.
Oh absolutely!
Brazil was a disaster at United. Not really his fault as he should never have been signed given his injuries. But the experience left him incredibly bitter.
Yes, after I wrote that post I realised that I had given the racist, sexist cnut far too much credit.
Guys, remember, he is a bona-fide expert.
Always been an insufferable wanker
He mustn't have been sent any pics given how bitter this sounds
Some might say he's "brave" for speaking out about this...
Beauty & The Beast?
