Joe Rogan
- Thread starter Ecstasio
- Start date
His original stuff was good because it was a myriad of interviewees and a very relaxed setting which conjured up some unique and sometimes crazy debates/opinions. It was an easy listen with podcasts for everyone (some great but also a lot of terrible ones
). As the name grew he then started luring bigger fish onto the podcast and, probably, fell a bit into the trap of believing his own image of being this neutral guy who was both a man of the people but rubbing shoulders with the stars type.I don't really get the reaction against him now though. Established news outlets spread the news they choose/filter and influence people every day, Rogan is just a podcaster who has grown to a huge size and has such a random selection of guests, some of them are going to have bonkers ideas. There's a bit of a cult like following but that's the same for anything of this nature.
Joe Rogan offered $100m ‘over four years’ to leave Spotify for right-wing platform Rumble
Nothing more legit than someone ending an offer with "And yes, this is totally legit."
I'm sure Joe would love to disappear off mainstream digital media and into a right wing void.
Last edited:
Rumble
Would be mad not to take that considering he got outed as a racist.
Could go ‘full Trump’ cheerleader in the run up to the next election.
As opposed to only the 3/4 Trump he is now.
He'd have to stop inviting people like Bernie Sanders on his show to get there.
His original stuff was good because it was a myriad of interviewees and a very relaxed setting which conjured up some unique and sometimes crazy debates/opinions. It was an easy listen with podcasts for everyone (some great but also a lot of terrible ones
I don't really get the reaction against him now though. Established news outlets spread the news they choose/filter and influence people every day, Rogan is just a podcaster who has grown to a huge size and has such a random selection of guests, some of them are going to have bonkers ideas. There's a bit of a cult like following but that's the same for anything of this nature.
Did they make him say racist shit?
He did that before the last election
It's not a vague dismissal, it's just my opinion on where much/some of the criticism stems from. You disagree and seem to think it's all sincere. That's fine.
And I've also never said that his podcast should be free from criticism. Because that's obviously ridiculous.
Last edited:
That wasn't the original reason for the outrage against Rogan though, that's an added facet that's gone on top of the disinformation part.
who cares if it isn't sincere? people always dig out old shit in situations like this and sure it's petty but that's the world now
they found a video of him saying that white brains are better than black brains, that isn't some out of context faux-pas like dropping an n-bomb... it's a deep-rooted racist belief and no matter what the context of how it resurfaced he deserves to be heavily called out for it.. and all the people who used to think he's "a good guy" (myself included) are/were wrong, sadly
I'd like to think Joe no longer thinks this way and has since learned how wrong it is, but it's still deeply troubling at the very least
I've listened to this guy for probably close to a few hundred hours over the years. Never thought him to be racist. He says he's not racist. I'm gonna go with that. He apologized for having used the word and having made stupid jokes. He's a stand up comedian, talking for hours on his podcast. I don't know. It was probably the right thing to do and seemed sincere. On the misinformation stuff. He should probably show some responsibility considering how big he is. Let's see what happens.
You are a comedian too right ?
You've just committed a thoughtcrime.
Where on earth are rumble getting 100m from?
Ha!
Rumble didn't bother to mention Spotify in their offer, I suppose they're hoping they just let him walk away for free
cognitive dissonance isn't a crime
You could sense the mental stress in his post?
haha you just googled that didn’t you? It shows
What is 100m in this money print economy?
People sometimes really commit to someone to the point they overlook their faults. Normally it's romantic partners, sometimes it's joe rogan.
Bet Spotify are glad they agreed to pay him so much money. You would have thought that they would have done their due diligence.
This is what amazes me as well. I think Spotify are in a tough spot at the moment. I know a few people, including myself that switched over to Deezer after Rogan's racist outbursts, not that this makes a difference but I'm sure they are feeling some pressure from several more important sources.
They're about to give Barcelona £240m over 3 years.
Shirt sponsorship and stadium naming rights.
Edit: just read the thread in the football forum, and by 'tough spot' I thought Denis79 might've been referring to financial issues.
I don't think it's that bad for them really
they just need Rogan to stop being a dick-head about vaccines and not say racist stuff.. he should be able to manage that after all this criticism, he is someone who takes criticism on board
Yeah I expressed myself poorly, I meant in a tough spot with Rogan, he an investment that is making Spotify look bad.
Nah, it's my fault. Sorry for any confusion.
I can't see Spotify doing much more than what they've already done, but then it's hard to say. If more unsavoury stuff comes out, then who knows?
My main point from the beginning was that the whole controversy seemed, at least to me, very top-down led - with certain media figures and some government officials leading the charge. I never got the impression that there was any sort of ground swell of public opinion against the podcast. But then...it's a much bigger story in America than it is on this side of the Atlantic.
Last edited:
Repeated covid misinformation and a love of using the N word. How much more unsavoury does he need to be?
Spotify look to be adding warnings labels to Rogan and other content now. Unless something else comes up, it looks like he will keep going.
It's non organic smear. Basically big tech is trying to censor, and Rogan then brings those people on his podcast thus giving them 4-5 times bigger platform than those people had. Right now they are looking for that woman to accuse Joe of something.
Anyhow, Joe will come out of this castrated and his podcast will never be what it once was. Hopefully new Joe comes along so I can enjoy conspiracy theories and misinformation. It is far more entertaining that factual mainstream media.
I don't think you get how capitalism works - "big tech" have absolutely no interest in censoring Rogan, uncensored misinformation makes the likes of Spotify and YouTube an awful lot of money. If Rogan does get censored it will be in spite of "big tech" not because of them.
I never said you did say that? I have however asked lots of questions to you directly which you just won't engage with, and to say criticism of overt racism and medical misinformation is begrudgery with zero explanation is a dismissal. You're fully entitled to do that of course but it is what it is.