I think some of the attempts to defend him are pretty ridiculous and go way overboard too though to be honest.
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I think some of the attempts to defend him are pretty ridiculous and go way overboard too though to be honest.
Wasnt it AF that said if youre good enough then youre old enough. No harm in playing Gomex on the bench and giving him the last 20 mins in the previous two games.
That stat is just so unbelievably shit that I assumed it must be wrong, and transfermarkt.co.uk do indeed credit him with a whopping one assist since then, when he won a penalty vs Burnley in January
. I really hope Ole allows Gomes or Pereira a chance to earn that place.A 10 needs another 10 to play him through on goal?
I agree but for a player who is largely used centrally as a 10 his stats are absolutely disgraceful. I put Lingard in the same boat as Shaw, performed decently under Mourinho absolutely horrendous under Solskjaer. It's a make it break season for them both.
Iniesta. Modric. Lingard. Yeah, that's a great comparison. Three all-time greats of the game.
41 goals in his professional club career. Chris Smalling has 18. I'm sure Jesse is a good lad, bit of a knob at times but likable. Bottom line is he should be nowhere near this football club at his age. Another Tom Cleverley stinking up the team.
Would Jesse Lingard be a starter for any other top 8 PL club?
Wish i'd won the lottery too just like our own Jesse. Does nothing in a year and still gets paid millions
I dont get it why we dont have clauses where after a period of time if the performances aren't up to standard the salary decreases by a certain amount.
We're basically throwing away money like we did with Sanchez
Wish i'd won the lottery too just like our own Jesse. Does nothing in a year and still gets paid millions
I dont get it why we dont have clauses where after a period of time if the performances aren't up to standard the salary decreases by a certain amount.
We're basically throwing away money like we did with Sanchez
How on earth would you enforce that?How many goals and assists Jesse has in his United career? Of course not counting pre pre assists, or pre pre pre assists!
And the best thing is that his luck never goes away. He had shit season and what happens? We hire coach who trained him in youth team and who rates him a lot.Wish i'd won the lottery too just like our own Jesse. Does nothing in a year and still gets paid millions
I dont get it why we dont have clauses where after a period of time if the performances aren't up to standard the salary decreases by a certain amount.
We're basically throwing away money like we did with Sanchez
10ception
Dog shit of a player
“But but, he runs like a headless chicken!”
Everything wrong with United now. How this man is still relied to start and hasn’t been replaced is fecking stupid. Feck off, this club used to give more joy than headache not long ago...
“But but, he runs like a headless chicken!”
Everything wrong with United now. How this man is still relied to start and hasn’t been replaced is fecking stupid. Feck off, this club used to give more joy than headache not long ago...
He passed the ball in the fourth minute that directly led to martials goal in the 27th minute.
A pre pre pre pre......pre (10000) assist.
Jesus.
Pfft leave off him, he's just a kid ffs.
If Liverpool had an attacking player that had gone 14 games without a goal or assist and in fact had gone without a goal or assist for 11 of the last 12 months of football, but we had scousers on here banging on about movement, pressing and pre assists they'd be laughed off the Caf.
It's Glaston levels of desperate excuse making.
It's Glaston levels of desperate excuse making.
YeahWish i'd won the lottery too just like our own Jesse. Does nothing in a year and still gets paid millions
I dont get it why we dont have clauses where after a period of time if the performances aren't up to standard the salary decreases by a certain amount.
We're basically throwing away money like we did with Sanchez
its called performance bonuses
Surely you don't mean Lingard is "just a kid", right?
We need to give our young lads all the support they can get.
The penny has to drop on Lingard. If Ole still remembers the kind of quality United should stand for, this should be a make or break season for him.
That being said, it's only 2 games into the new season.
That being said, it's only 2 games into the new season.
Lingard's playing as well as he can. He's very fit, mobile, hard-working. He's not good enough to be more than a squad player, so getting a top quality 10 in must be a priority if this is the shape going forward.
He isnt awful, but neither is he good. I do think he is actualoly a valuable squad number as he does have uses. The irony is, he is playing at the moment in a number 10 role we havent had for years even though we have been signing number 10s all the way back to Kagawa....and now what to we have. A decent number 10 in Mata, yet another one we signed who has been playing out wide and now the opportunity is there he is past his best....and Lingard and the role of a number 10 certainly isnt about running and pressing.
I think we have the ideal player in terms of ability for this role in Gomes and it is too early for him to be starting games, but he really should be on that bench, how is he going to get opportunities otherwise?
I think we have the ideal player in terms of ability for this role in Gomes and it is too early for him to be starting games, but he really should be on that bench, how is he going to get opportunities otherwise?
Surely you don't mean Lingard is "just a kid", right?
He's young'n'lernin'
This will be Lingard's real breakthrough year. I am sure of it. It's only 2 matches, haters. Give him a little more time.
It was clear he was not focused in that match, he ran a lot off the ball but on the ball he was poor, he produced a series of basic mistakes and should have been subbed much earlier if we were determined to go after the win, you can speculate he was kept on for his off the ball work ethic as the match was cagey after wolves equalised, and put in the managers position you can lend understanding to that decision given it was a tough away fixture, but still the United fan in you always screams go for it.
How is Lingard first choice no.10 on a team with ambitions of top 4?
He's comparable to Origi at this point.
Not really origi actually scores and assists
Have a look at Origi's numbers.
I'd imagine in the last 6 months he'll have played a lot more minutes than Origi with worse numbers though.
I just read this tread from a few pages back and there's people seriously thinking a pre assist pass is a stat? How far would you go back as it could be De Gea kicks the ball to Lingard who is open and he passes a 2 yard pass to Pogba who puts Martial through and he buries it. I think De Gea should be given credit more then JlingZ, who's with me?
Regardless of stats his rubbish.
He drags the opposition's defenders around with his movements though... then They easily get back to their original positions. Fecking hell, just start Mason or anyone over him every game.
No way he is a good enough to be a starter but wont mind him as a squad player though
It's just 2 games and 2 hard games. So can see why Ole didn't risk them. Going by the close door friendlies, it's a good sign for the young players. They didn't get games, so along with other back up players they also played part to be match fit. Also not playing for U23s means they are part of first team (at least for now), I think Ole thought its too risky to play them from the word go.
Once we have 3 games in a week, we should see these young players getting chances regularly. At least Greenwood (and hopefully Gomes too).
It was Sir Matt Busby who said that.
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