Jesse Lingard 'to leave on a free'

He scored 7 of those 20 goals between 28 November 2017 and 1 January 2018 - then he had a good spell at West Ham for a short time - what was he doing the rest of the time?

Running around a lot and providing zero quality.

Those stats are amazing, he's basically had two purple patches for a few months at a time and he's made a career from it.
 
I don't hate Lingard at all. He scored some decent goals for us.
But we need to raise our standards and for that, the lesser squad members need to leave in order to free up wages for other players to come in, who might be better.
Sorry, Jlingz.
 
20 league goals in 7 years for an attacking midfielder playing for Man Utd is fecking appalling.

He's scored I believe 3 league goals for us since 2018.

I accept that JLingz was appalling, but what about the people giving him these contracts. I think Matt Judge was the guy and he has now left, thank goodness.
I do hope that going forward, we set standards higher - if a player is not good enough, we either sell or let his contract expire.
Pogba is another one - plays well in about 5 games per season and is either injured or crap for all other matches.

Players of such low quality need to be ejected from the club.
 
I check this thread every day to see if he has left yet.

I don't think anybody at the club would notice.
 
He's probably seen the news about Mbappe having a say in decisions at PSG and will now want the same at Newcastle, no doubt he and his family will think €100m signing on bonus will be decent too.
 
No way he can play today if he is going to West Ham.

His incentive will be Europa League for Hammers.
 
Minutes applause before kick off today being mooted. Also Viera would like a custom handshake and pic for insta
 
The past paragraph is ironic as that basically describes Lingard.

The irony of the opinion that Lingard is somehow an "average" footballer is how dishonest the discussion is when you factor in that the odds of the 1.5 million youth players in England ever playing a minute for Manchester United is around 1:416 000. By comparison the odds of being struck by lightning in any given year is about 1:500 000

Jesse Lingard may be an average squad player at Manchester United, or any of the champions league level teams in the Premier League, but by any reasonable metric he is one of the very best footballers on the Island when you factor in that as few as 0.01% of people playing football in the UK ever see the inside of a Premier League arena in front of a crowd.

For Lingards case the media attention is more linked to the fact that he is a English player playing in a high profile club, and a national team player, rather than just because he is Jesse Lingard. If he was a non-national team player playing for Middlesbrough, no one would care. The attention is always linked to the profile of the club you play for.

And again, its worth mentioning that Jesse Lingard was the Premier League POTM for April 2021. Which immediately should disprove any notion of him being a poor player in general. At least if you dont have an agenda and get triggered by young people doing things you cant relate to, like dabbing.
 
The irony of the opinion that Lingard is somehow an "average" footballer is how dishonest the discussion is when you factor in that the odds of the 1.5 million youth players in England ever playing a minute for Manchester United is around 1:416 000. By comparison the odds of being struck by lightning in any given year is about 1:500 000

Jesse Lingard may be an average squad player at Manchester United, or any of the champions league level teams in the Premier League, but by any reasonable metric he is one of the very best footballers on the Island when you factor in that as few as 0.01% of people playing football in the UK ever see the inside of a Premier League arena in front of a crowd.

For Lingards case the media attention is more linked to the fact that he is a English player playing in a high profile club, and a national team player, rather than just because he is Jesse Lingard. If he was a non-national team player playing for Middlesbrough, no one would care. The attention is always linked to the profile of the club you play for.

And again, its worth mentioning that Jesse Lingard was the Premier League POTM for April 2021. Which immediately should disprove any notion of him being a poor player in general. At least if you dont have an agenda and get triggered by young people doing things you cant relate to, like dabbing.

:lol: You’re Lingard, aren’t you?
 
The irony of the opinion that Lingard is somehow an "average" footballer is how dishonest the discussion is when you factor in that the odds of the 1.5 million youth players in England ever playing a minute for Manchester United is around 1:416 000. By comparison the odds of being struck by lightning in any given year is about 1:500 000

Jesse Lingard may be an average squad player at Manchester United, or any of the champions league level teams in the Premier League, but by any reasonable metric he is one of the very best footballers on the Island when you factor in that as few as 0.01% of people playing football in the UK ever see the inside of a Premier League arena in front of a crowd.

For Lingards case the media attention is more linked to the fact that he is a English player playing in a high profile club, and a national team player, rather than just because he is Jesse Lingard. If he was a non-national team player playing for Middlesbrough, no one would care. The attention is always linked to the profile of the club you play for.

And again, its worth mentioning that Jesse Lingard was the Premier League POTM for April 2021. Which immediately should disprove any notion of him being a poor player in general. At least if you dont have an agenda and get triggered by young people doing things you cant relate to, like dabbing.

It feels like a slightly disingenuous argument. When you think about it, you can't really call Jay Spearing a poor player when there are 8 billion people in the world and only 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% ever get to fly a fighter jet.
 
It feels like a slightly disingenuous argument. When you think about it, you can't really call Jay Spearing a poor player when there are 8 billion people in the world and only 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% ever get to fly a fighter jet.

Its not though. You can make a perfectly good argument that Jesse is not good enough for Manchester United, but to suggest that national team players are somehow bad footballers is outright false
 
Its not though. You can make a perfectly good argument that Jesse is not good enough for Manchester United, but to suggest that national team players are somehow bad footballers is outright false

An average footballer is what people were saying, and half a season at West Ham and a handful of short purple patches at United aside, it's hard to argue against. Is he a better player than me? Yep, but is he better than most Premier League players? No. He's an average to decent player.
 
An average footballer is what people were saying, and half a season at West Ham and a handful of short purple patches at United aside, it's hard to argue against. Is he a better player than me? Yep, but is he better than most Premier League players? No. He's an average to decent player.

You never know. On one day that West Ham fan Steve Davies was better than Lee Chapman.
 
What a waste of 2 years of a career, and 2 years of wages from United. Needed to go the summer after Bruno was signed. Stupid decisions from both camps on this one.
 
If true truly deluded.
I would love it if he can’t find a club after this. It would serve him right if he ends up at Accrington Stanley on 50 quid a week

Greedy entitled fecker demanding 180k when he has done literally nothing other than prancing around on social media and spreading poison
 
Assists not much better. Very poor footballer who finally leaves

Agree that he is not the best footballer or comes across a guy who knows how to conduct himself but at least he didnt cost us much as he is our academy product. so I dont have anything against him. People on forum talk like he was a 100M failure so it surprises me.

We gave him a chance but unfortunately not succeeded here. We spent lot on others who were more underwhelming than Jesse and I am saying this even I was never a fan of Jesse. Good that he played well in few matches under LVG/Jose and we got some loan money from west ham. Nothing more about him so better we move on.
 
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I would love it if he can’t find a club after this. It would serve him right if he ends up at Accrington Stanley on 50 quid a week

Greedy entitled fecker demanding 180k when he has done literally nothing other than prancing around on social media and spreading poison

Given his behaviour over the last year or so in running down his contract I'd be willing to believe he is looking for £180k per week. But he's not going to find that at clubs like West Ham, their top earner is apparently that twat Zouma on £100k per week. So West Ham aren't going to shatter their wage structure and make Lingard their highest paid player on nearly double the next highest paid player.
 
Has he considered a collaboration? I belive that is considered a valid form of payment for an influencer.
 
Apparently after £180k/week from West Ham.

Hes leaving the only club who give out silly contracts, no chance

His rationale is probably that a club has saved £20m on a fee, so he should get it instead and a nice wage on top to get to that £180k a week.

Problem is, he forgets clubs were unwilling to pay ANY transfer fee for him, so the only thing making him a attractive signing is the fact he's a freebie.
 
Agree that he is not the best footballer or comes across a guy who knows how to conduct himself but at least he didnt cost us much as he is our academy product. so I dont have anything against him. People on forum talk like he was a 100M failure so it surprises me.

We gave him a chance but unfortunately not succeeded here. We spent lot on others who were more underwhelming than Jesse and I am saying this even I was never a fan of Jesse. Good that he played well in few matches under LVG/Jose and we got some loan money from west ham. Nothing more about him so better we move on.
It is more his behavior that annoyed anyone, not how much he cost or not. Acted like an idiot despite being a poor player.
 
This forum :lol:

One guy pops in and says "heard he's looking for 180k!"

Instantly taken as fact and not questioned.
 
What date does his contract expire? Is it 30th June

Yes.

This forum :lol:

One guy pops in and says "heard he's looking for 180k!"

Instantly taken as fact and not questioned.

It’s not even that unreasonable when you factor in how it’s likely to be broken down. Assuming that number has come from some media report it’ll be an equivalence rather than a wages figure.

Let’s say his agent is asking for £100k per week, on a 4 year deal. Then a signing on fee of £10m because there’s no transfer fee (a standard thing to request).

Then there’s an agent fee of, say, £5m.

That’s £35.8m, which over 4 years works out at £172k per week, and would give a Sun journo enough to talk about “Lingard demanding deal worth £180k per week”.

That’s even without image rights.
 
Yes.



It’s not even that unreasonable when you factor in how it’s likely to be broken down. Assuming that number has come from some media report it’ll be an equivalence rather than a wages figure.

Let’s say his agent is asking for £100k per week, on a 4 year deal. Then a signing on fee of £10m because there’s no transfer fee (a standard thing to request).

Then there’s an agent fee of, say, £5m.

That’s £35.8m, which over 4 years works out at £172k per week, and would give a Sun journo enough to talk about “Lingard demanding deal worth £180k per week”.

That’s even without image rights.
I don't know if anyone knows how the image rights thing works, I mean how is it monetized over a period of time say a season. I don't really understand how it works and would really like to, I mean a player with the profile of Lingard wouldn't earn much if anything from it or is it that every pro football player has a base amount they would expect to earn from their image rights every season?
 
I don't know if anyone knows how the image rights thing works, I mean how is it monetized over a period of time say a season. I don't really understand how it works and would really like to, I mean a player with the profile of Lingard wouldn't earn much if anything from it or is it that every pro football player has a base amount they would expect to earn from their image rights every season?

It fluctuates from player to player but is dependent upon the club making commercial use of their image and also whether the club are willing to pay for that. It’s not something all players have.

Lingard will have an image rights company which will invoice the club once or twice per year for an agreed amount. It will also be where his boot deal and other sponsorship money goes.