Red00012
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Where did I say it was?how is this a bad thing?
Where did I say it was?how is this a bad thing?
Ban worthyThe Jesse Lingard of 2 or 3 seasons ago was no worse than Antony is right now.
It really is.. half on here seem to have written Mount off as rubbish, Onana as a modern day Taibi and Højlund as a crock already.Feck me, this place is getting worse.
It's like McTominay situation, the longer you don't see some players play the better you think they are.The Jesse Lingard of 2 or 3 seasons ago was no worse than Antony is right now.
The hatred of Lingard in some quarters is a very clear by-product of fan frustration at our expectations failing to meet reality in the aftermath of Fergie’s departure. In literally every other era - including the doldrums before SAF - he’d have been a cult hero at worst.
Pretty much any academy product who scores an FA Cup winning goal in extra time deserves to be tbh… at any club. But he just happened to exists at the absolute worst time for our fanbase tolerating his kind of personality.
For me it is. He comes across as extremely irritating. I don’t think I’ve ever felt like that about another United player.I don't think it is his personality on its own that garners the vitriol, it is that and DEFINITELY something else.
You said 'its not a wind up". I probably misunderstood what you implied. My badWhere did I say it was?
Other way around also applies.It's like McTominay situation, the longer you don't see some players play the better you think they are.
Season | Apps | Minutes | Goals | Assists |
2022/2023 | 12(5) | 928 | 0 | 0 |
2021/2022 | 2(14) | 356 | 2 | 0 |
2020/2021 | 16 | 1426 | 9 | 4 |
2019/2020 | 9(13) | 932 | 1 | 0 |
2018/2019 | 19(8) | 1670 | 4 | 2 |
2017/2018 | 20(13) | 1823 | 8 | 5 |
Season | Apps | Minutes | Goals | Assists |
2022/2023 | 23(2) | 1819 | 4 | 2 |
. Id wager less than 10% of our fanbase rates Antony.....Other way around also applies.
Lingard:
Season Apps Minutes Goals Assists 2022/2023 12(5) 928 0 02021/2022 2(14) 356 2 02020/2021 16 1426 9 42019/2020 9(13) 932 1 02018/2019 19(8) 1670 4 22017/2018 20(13) 1823 8 5
Antony:
Season Apps Minutes Goals Assists 2022/2023 23(2) 1819 4 2
Lingard was underrated and Antony is being overrated.
He has potential, but he's easily the weakest member of first choice front 6 (if we assume that Rashford is going to be a CF for the foreseeable).. Id wager less than 10% of our fanbase rates Antony.....
for now True. Don't get me wrong thougg. Im amongst the few who actually rates him and sees what he could potentially become as ETH polishes him. I've just seen many a UTD fan moan about him. On and especially offlineHe has potential, but he's easily the weakest member of first choice front 6 (if we assume that Rashford is going to be a CF for the foreseeable).
Other way around also applies.
Lingard:
Season Apps Minutes Goals Assists 2022/2023 12(5) 928 0 02021/2022 2(14) 356 2 02020/2021 16 1426 9 42019/2020 9(13) 932 1 02018/2019 19(8) 1670 4 22017/2018 20(13) 1823 8 5
Antony:
Season Apps Minutes Goals Assists 2022/2023 23(2) 1819 4 2
Lingard was underrated and Antony is being overrated. The main value that both provide is workrate, movement and positional discipline. Neither is/was great, though Lingard reached higher highs in terms in terms of end product. It's up to Antony to match or surpass him. He hasn't so far.
Nah this is way over the top. By your logic the whole league will be full of lingards in future. Name me the social media whores who play for City and LiverpoolBut loads of players have left the club under a much darker cloud than he did and are revered. I tend to largely agree with what @Mockney said, albeit with an added dash of talent versus hype being magnified by the age we live in. The quiet, solid pro who doesn’t do anything other than play football won’t exist in 10 years. These lads are being told from the earliest age that they have to market themselves in every imaginable way. Lingard’s carry on will look mild by then.
The Jesse Lingard of 2 or 3 seasons ago was no worse than Antony is right now.
But loads of players have left the club under a much darker cloud than he did and are revered. I tend to largely agree with what @Mockney said, albeit with an added dash of talent versus hype being magnified by the age we live in. The quiet, solid pro who doesn’t do anything other than play football won’t exist in 10 years. These lads are being told from the earliest age that they have to market themselves in every imaginable way. Lingard’s carry on will look mild by then.
I will never have a bad thing to say about Lingard. He had a stellar youth career. Then for our seniors He ended our trophy drought post Fergie with a goal in an fa cup final at Wembley, yet we were down to 10 men. He will always have my respect for it.
Yep. The gamble he took to earn more at Forrest was a mistake for him.Easy to forget that part of his career. But later, I think he should have stayed at West Ham. He did well there, the fans liked him and he seemed happy under Moyes.
Apparently training with West Ham currently.
Seems no ones rushing to snap up Jesse.
And the time when you have lots of time on your hands because you are unemployed and don't have a club to answer to is a bad time?Doesnt help that he is constantly on social media posting nonsense. Him and Pogba are like the ultimate poster boys for this incoming generation. The day Juve get deducted 15 points, Pogba could post a dance video.
Maybe im just an old fart who doesnt get social media. But I feel theres a time to post bullshit/fun stuff and times not to.
Not even the Saudis!Seems no ones rushing to snap up Jesse.
Doesnt help that he is constantly on social media posting nonsense. Him and Pogba are like the ultimate poster boys for this incoming generation.
Doesnt help that he is constantly on social media posting nonsense. Him and Pogba are like the ultimate poster boys for this incoming generation. The day Juve get deducted 15 points, Pogba could post a dance video.
Maybe im just an old fart who doesnt get social media. But I feel theres a time to post bullshit/fun stuff and times not to.
Jesus Christ. Lumping in Pogba and Lingard together. One is among the most decorated players of his generation. The other is a distraction/footnote in the clubs history.
You can only read this with your head in dabz position.
Let’s embrace not hate.Can’t for the life of me understand the fascination with this guy, or why Utd folk are still discussing him. Ancient history.
I don’t hate, I nothing!Let’s embrace not hate.
His new sock brand? Bit wordy
I don’t hate, I nothing!
Yes, lets get him in on a freeMount replacement/back up?
Can’t tell if you’re joking or not… it’s the sort of thing this club would probably do though to be fair.Mount replacement/back up?