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2017-18 Performances

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5.8 Season Average Rating
Appearances
48
Goals
13
Assists
8
Yellow cards
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ChaddyP said:
Yeh I give you those. I think Drogba has the best ones, especially the one with the salute
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Truth. Drogba's slides were emphatic.

FWIW I don't really have anything against the celebration, my post wasn't at all serious (apart from the bit about finishing). It's certainly not as bad as Daniel Sturridge's celebration, who looks like he's doing some sort of dance that a severely uncool parent would do whilst claiming they are "down with the kids" or something. That's probably the only goal celebration that makes me cringe.
 
vi1lain said:
‘Proper hip hop’ Is so elitist imo, hip hop was borne out of party music to make people dance. No lyrics, just the best part of the beat and something to get down to.
So in that sense, trap music is, ironically, modern day ‘proper’ hip hop.
The culture is set up for everyone to enjoy their own sub genres, looking down on one part because it’s not for you isn’t what hip hop is about at all.
There is no proper hip hop. There’s just hip hop and everything that comes along with it.
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Except trap music does have lyrics: awful ones.
 
Had some very good performances recently, if he can do this consistantly he will deserve to start every week
 
Would love for him to kick on now, we need someone on that RW until summer transfer window comes around anyway
 
I'd like to know how many games he's now allowed to go without scoring before everyone feels justified calling him 'Championship level' again. 2? 3? Just to pin down those shifty, shifty goalposts.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
Would love for him to kick on now, we need someone on that RW until summer transfer window comes around anyway
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He should stay away from the wing position as much as possible. He looks like a proper 10, more than being a winger who can beat players then cross.
 
I still cannot pinpoint what his qualites are and i cannot find a simliar player either.
 
el3mel said:
He should stay away from the wing position as much as possible. He looks like a proper 10, more than being a winger who can beat players then cross.
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Agree with this, especially big games. I think hes more suited for United style of counter attacking than Mata and Mkhi. He brings pace and his interlink play with Lukaku and Martial is top notch.
 
Sylar said:
Agree with this, especially big games. I think hes more suited for United style of counter attacking than Mata and Mkhi. He brings pace and his interlink play with Lukaku and Martial is top notch.
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Yep. Mata is too slow while Mikhi runs aimlessly then pass the ball to no man's land. Lingard is perfect for counter attacking as a number 10 as he has excellent off ball movement z always an option to receive a pass due to his movement a lot and releases the ball quickly. I won't play him as a number 10 against parking bus teams though.
 
breakout67 said:
He's a B-tech Antoine Griezmann, seriously that's what he is.
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My thoughts exactly. If Jessi can continue this form and hopefully gets better, United might not need Griezmann. Still thinks Ozil is really good (free) option to have to get United to next level and get on the winning ways again.
 
As a couple of people have pointed out, he is a great player playing in the hole in these types of games. His energy is great, he is great for closing down, his movement is good and his finishing is erratic but can be excellent too.

He isn't going to play rw vs a bottom half team in old trafford and play defence splitting balls... but tbh nobody seems able to do that, bar pogba the odd time
 
NotQuiteManc said:
My thoughts exactly. If Jessi can continue this form and hopefully gets better, United might not need Griezmann. Still thinks Ozil is really good (free) option to have to get United to next level and get on the winning ways again.
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I dunno about that, Griezmann is on another level to Jesse Lingard. Griezmann does everything Lingard does but better. Movement, work rate, scores good goals, just more consistently and more often.
 
He is more an error Thomas Muller version in term of attacking space and going into finishing areas, obviously with terrible finishing. A Welbeck The Second - exceptional talent in term of converting open goals to chances but being destined for unbelievable difficult goals at the same time
 
meninred said:
I still cannot pinpoint what his qualites are and i cannot find a simliar player either.
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At his best he does or tries a lot of the things you want from an attacking player. Consistently offers the short (pass) option and the long option (running inside and off defender's shoulders), press from the front, tracks back, attacks space, links up with midfielders and forwards etc.

His inconsistencies come from playing wide where he can't get involved as much or when he does, he vacates the wing and clogs up the middle. He doesn't cross that much because he's rarely in those areas, his dribbling is average in close spaces and he's not able to really create much on his own. That's to say most of his best work is popping 1-2s, off the ball runs/tracking, playing off opponents/his team mates if that makes sense and when the game is open so the space is there.
 
His movement for the goal was great. From getting back onside to the surge forwards.
 
T A said:
He is more an error Thomas Muller version in term of attacking space and going into finishing areas, obviously with terrible finishing. A Welbeck The Second - exceptional talent in term of converting open goals to chances but being destined for unbelievable difficult goals at the same time
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Wtf?
 
bri2013 said:
@Paul the Wolf, I miss your knowledge about Lingard in this thread! Maybe Jose will pick you in the Derby?
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He wouldn't if I'd missed those open goals.

prath92 said:
@Paul the Wolf must be crying in his sleep somewhere
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I have stayed out of these threads on purpose all season - for your info I gave him a 7 in the Watford game and 8 in the Arsenal game.
Now he has scored 3 goals in 2 games after 3 goals in his previous 51.
Let's hope he keeps it up, maybe now he's nearly 25 he may have matured a bit, two games have not quite convinced me yet.

See you next year when he has another good game.
 
LennonNL said:
I’m pretty sure it’s not, lol, and even if it was I’m not sure that’s entirely what Lingard was doing it for. Taking Arsenal’s turf? Grow up.

It’s all daft anyway. Just copying American hip-hop culture or celebrations made up by American athletes. Come up with your own at least if you’re gonna look a tit after scoring a couple.
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It's just a popular dance.
 
Brightonian said:
I'd like to know how many games he's now allowed to go without scoring before everyone feels justified calling him 'Championship level' again. 2? 3? Just to pin down those shifty, shifty goalposts.
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The first chance at goal that he doesn't immediately score - people will call him a Championship player.
 
Brightonian said:
I'd like to know how many games he's now allowed to go without scoring before everyone feels justified calling him 'Championship level' again. 2? 3? Just to pin down those shifty, shifty goalposts.
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about 10 minutes into the derby.
 
Anyone who thinks Lingard is a Championship player has zero understanding of football.
 
haram said:
Anyone who thinks Lingard is a Championship player has zero understanding of football.
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I don't think Lingard is a championship player personally, but do you honestly think anyone who says he is has zero understanding of football?

So they wouldn't have the basic understanding to know that football is a team game where each side has 11 players and only the goalkeeper is allowed to touch the ball with his hands. Each team has to put the ball in the net to score and whoever scores the most wins? Because someone who has zero understanding of football wouldn't know any of that and yet they will have still somehow formed an opinion that a particular footballer in this case Lingard belongs at a certain level of football. I find that quite unlikely to be honest mate.

The much more likely explanation is they are exaggerating when they say Lingard belongs in the championship, and i'm not having a go mate but so are you with this claim. Thats the problem with these performance threads people exaggerate one way to criticise a player and then others exaggerate the other way to defend them. The exaggerations get more and more extreme until theres little room left for decent discussion. The Fellaini thread is probably the worst for it, if you had never seen him play and based your opinion of good he is solely on that thread you could be forgiven for thinking he's either a modern day Zidane and Keane rolled into one or a pub player.
 
haram said:
It's just a popular dance.
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Aye I know. I’m not against it what so ever, just saying you’d never catch me joining in :lol:

Whether it’s milly rocking, dabbing, bez dancing or a classical waltz I’m just glad to see the team getting along so well. It makes losing players like Pogba easier as you know the rest won’t necessarily drop their heads.
 
Jesse Messi...

Lionel Lingard...

There's a chant in there somewhere.
 
Womp said:
Given how good he's looked behind the striker, would be counter productive to move him out to the right now.
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Was he in No10 lol? I had assumed he was RW and then given free reign to drift. Shows my level of tactical nous
 
stevoc said:
I don't think Lingard is a championship player personally, but do you honestly think anyone who says he is has zero understanding of football?

So they wouldn't have the basic understanding to know that football is a team game where each side has 11 players and only the goalkeeper is allowed to touch the ball with his hands. Each team has to put the ball in the net to score and whoever scores the most wins? Because someone who has zero understanding of football wouldn't know any of that and yet they will have still somehow formed an opinion that a particular footballer in this case Lingard belongs at a certain level of football. I find that quite unlikely to be honest mate.

The much more likely explanation is they are exaggerating when they say Lingard belongs in the championship, and i'm not having a go mate but so are you with this claim. Thats the problem with these performance threads people exaggerate one way to criticise a player and then others exaggerate the other way to defend them. The exaggerations get more and more extreme until theres little room left for decent discussion. The Fellaini thread is probably the worst for it, if you had never seen him play and based your opinion of good he is solely on that thread you could be forgiven for thinking he's either a modern day Zidane and Keane rolled into one or a pub player.
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My favourite post of 2017
 
His movement was fantastic. I can see him starting against City, he deserves it.
 
I've been saying this for awhile.

There is nothing special about his athleticism, or technical skills, but the guy is an incredibly clever player, and he has a world class work ethic. He never stops, is always making smart, intelligent runs, and is constantly making problems for defenders.

He's the kind of player who isn't going to wow you with pace, or fancy footwork, but next thing you know, he's 35 years old, and has been a staple of a top club his entire career, and you're lamenting the retirement of players like him.
 
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