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2017-18 Performances


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5.8 Season Average Rating
Appearances
48
Goals
13
Assists
8
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More insane expectations. What squad player is getting 8+8?

And 15+10 in the league? That is verging best play in the league territory, something which Mkhi isn't even close to.

Are you on drugs, seriously? He is already on nearly 8 goals so how in gods name is that unrealistic.
 
Can you quote that post. Thanks. I said 10 goals and 10 assists.
Yes, 10+10 equals 20. Right below. It isn't a very good return for a squad player, its an unbelievable one which has probably rarely ever happened.

So we are in November and he has 4 goals and 4 assists. I would love to see some consistency from him now and to push for near 10 goals and 10 assists by the end of the season. That would be a very good return from a squad player.
 
If he played like he did yesterday with more regularity then he wouldn't receive half the stick. It's quite simple.

He has played most of his games as a winger - a much better AM which he has only really played a handful of games. His ability as a RW shouldnt be confused with his ability to play better at AM.

This is a recurrent theme on redcafe & not directed at you but players like blind are deemed to make mistake upon mistake at CB when this is not the case & only when he plays on the left.
 
Yes, 10+10 equals 20. Right below. It isn't a very good return for a squad player, its an unbelievable one which has probably rarely ever happened.

Yes so he has 6 goals and 4 assists already. So how in gods name is another 4 goals and 6 assists unrealistic considering there is more than half the season left and various competitions. He won't be a squad player if he keeps up this form, btw.
 
Are you on drugs, seriously? He is already on nearly 8 goals so how in gods name is that unrealistic.
She said in the league. So no 3 is not nearly 8. There is very little chance he will get 5 more goals and 5 more assists on squad player minutes for the rest of the season. Please name me some squad players who have got 8+8 in the league?
 
Fergie did say he would be a late developer so maybe he is right.
He also referred to him as an attacking midfielder as opposed to the wide role he’s often been tasked with and never really shone in.

In that central attacking role, he’s always put in decent performances.
 
Yes so he has 6 goals and 4 assists already. So how in gods name is another 4 goals and 6 assists unrealistic considering there is more than half the season left and various competitions. He won't be a squad player if he keeps up this form, btw.
Well so exactly, if he won't be a squad player then how will it be a good return for a squad player?

Once again show me these squad players who get 10+10 in all comps.
 
She said in the league. So no 3 is not nearly 8. There is very little chance he will get 5 more goals and 5 more assists on squad player minutes for the rest of the season. Please name me some squad players who have got 8+8 in the league?

Oh did she. Well I'm talking about all competitions which I have stated numerous times and I also said 10 plus 10 would be a great return.
 
Well so exactly, if he won't be a squad player then how will it be a good return for a squad player?

Once again show me these squad players who get 10+10 in all comps.

Oh so pedantic. Well he will have played nearly half the season as a squad player even if he becomes a regular starter now. So stop getting so fixated on the whole squad player lark. His numbers have drastically improved this season and here's to hoping he can push on and do 10 plus 10, exciting times for the lad.
 
Righteo. Considering we aren't even halfway through the season and he already has 6 goals and 4 assists, I think it's fair game to say he should be aiming for in and around 10 goals and 10 assists. No one said he has to so get your panties out of that knot, but it would be great if he could get in and around that mark. Yeah last seasons second top scorer is a great barometer to set.
So, when Lukaku was hitting more than a goal a game, did you say he should be finishing with 40+ goals?
No. Because you can't just extrapolate like that, when there are so many variables.
You seem to be getting all giddy, on the strength of a couple of good performances by Jesse.
Remember he is still not a starting 11 player, yet.
I have been on here defending Jesse, long before he started winning people over, and as far as I remember, you were more positive towards him than most.
You just need to temper your enthusiasm now he is establishing himself.
 
Oh so pedantic. Well he will have played nearly half the season as a squad player even if he becomes a regular starter now. So stop getting so fixated on the whole squad player lark. His numbers have drastically improved this season and here's to hoping he can push on and do 10 plus 10, exciting times for the lad.
It's not pedantic at all. You were asking for 10+10 from a squad player which is just unrealistic. Squad player and starter is a huge difference and not pedantic at all.
 
It's not pedantic at all. You were asking for 10+10 from a squad player which is just unrealistic. Squad player and starter is a huge difference and not pedantic at all.

So it's unrealistic to expect him to record similar numbers in the second half of the season? Logic. It would have been unrealistic at the start of the season for sure but it's hardly unrealistic now considering over half the season is left to play and he is halfway there. You seem upset about this for some reason and I have no idea. Chill man, I genuinely thought you had misread my original post and you thought I said 20 goals and 20 assists. No one said he has to by the way but it would be fantastic if he could.
 
So, when Lukaku was hitting more than a goal a game, did you say he should be finishing with 40+ goals?
No. Because you can't just extrapolate like that, when there are so many variables.
You seem to be getting all giddy, on the strength of a couple of good performances by Jesse.
Remember he is still not a starting 11 player, yet.
I have been on here defending Jesse, long before he started winning people over, and as far as I remember, you were more positive towards him than most.
You just need to temper your enthusiasm now he is establishing himself.

Let's just root for the lad and hope he can get there. It would be fantastic. Go Jesse! If he doesn't then let's hope he can get in and around that number, it would be fabulous really. He's red hot at the moment and I hope he starts against CSKA and keeps it up and then he can slay City too for his mate Poggers!
 
So it's unrealistic to expect him to record similar numbers in the second half of the season? Logic. It would have been unrealistic at the start of the season for sure but it's hardly unrealistic now considering over half the season is left to play and he is halfway there. You seem upset about this for some reason and I have no idea. Chill man, I genuinely thought you had misread my original post and you thought I said 20 goals and 20 assists. No one said he has to by the way but it would be fantastic if he could.
With squad player minutes yes it is extremely unlikely. If he becomes a starter then he has a chance but then he isn't a squad player is he? Logic also dictates that it will be harder to score as the season goes on and we get further in competitions as the opposition will be stronger. I'm not upset at all, I'm calling out absurd stats expectations which are constantly posted on here. No one is getting 10+10 on squad player minutes.

So I'll ask you again show me a squad player who has got 10+10 before.
 
With squad player minutes yes it is extremely unlikely. If he becomes a starter then he has a chance but then he isn't a squad player is he? Logic also dictates that it will be harder to score as the season goes on and we get further in competitions as the opposition will be stronger. I'm not upset at all, I'm calling out absurd stats expectations which are constantly posted on here. No one is getting 10+10 on squad player minutes.

So I'll ask you again show me a squad player who has got 10+10 before.

Ok dude just relax. It's ok, it's not an expectation, it's a hope. I believe he can get in and around those numbers and let's see at the end of the season. It would be fantastic for him and us.
 
It's a hip hop/gang dance for when you takeover opposition turf and they can't do anything about it.
I’m pretty sure it’s not, lol, and even if it was I’m not sure that’s entirely what Lingard was doing it for. Taking Arsenal’s turf? Grow up.

It’s all daft anyway. Just copying American hip-hop culture or celebrations made up by American athletes. Come up with your own at least if you’re gonna look a tit after scoring a couple.
 
I’m pretty sure it’s not, lol, and even if it was I’m not sure that’s entirely what Lingard was doing it for. Taking Arsenal’s turf? Grow up.

It’s all daft anyway. Just copying American hip-hop culture or celebrations made up by American athletes. Come up with your own at least if you’re gonna look a tit after scoring a couple.
Really? It's a celebration, the kid likes dancing so let him do what he wants. He liked that dance move so why not.
 
Really? It's a celebration, the kid likes dancing so let him do what he wants. He liked that dance move so why not.
Well yeah that’s fair enough, but it is a bit daft. It doesn’t bother me that much, but the whole trap culture just blags me :lol:
 
I LOVE IT!

Pogba, Martial, Lukaku, Young were all getting into it and dancing. Surely this is a good sign when your team have such a good relationship?
 
I don’t, but I have Twitter.

That’s my point though, they’re just copying the NFL and/or NBA.

The NFL/NBA players didn't come up with these things, they're all taking them from the same subculture and enjoying themselves as young lads.
 
I’m pretty sure it’s not, lol, and even if it was I’m not sure that’s entirely what Lingard was doing it for. Taking Arsenal’s turf? Grow up.

It’s all daft anyway. Just copying American hip-hop culture or celebrations made up by American athletes. Come up with your own at least if you’re gonna look a tit after scoring a couple.
Haha, not sure whether you're telling me or Lingard to grow up, but when he tweets 'At The Emirates I Milly Rock' I believe it's in reference to the lyric 'I Milly Rock on any block' from the the song that made this dance famous.

Any, it's just piss taking - doesn't serve any other purpose, really. One could argue the knee slide is daft too.
 
It's a hip hop/gang dance for when you takeover opposition turf and they can't do anything about it.

No it’s not.
It’s a hip hop dance - not sure what gangs have to do with it?

It’s infiltrated the NFL because their players partake in the hip hop culture.
 
Well yeah that’s fair enough, but it is a bit daft. It doesn’t bother me that much, but the whole trap culture just blags me :lol:

‘It doesn’t bother me, but it is a bit daft’ so it does bother you then?
He’s not hurting anyone.
For someone like me who loves that culture, I love that he’s being so visible in representing it on such a huge stage.

I really don’t understand why so many people take issue with how him, Pogba and anyone else choose to celebrate.
 
‘It doesn’t bother me, but it is a bit daft’ so it does bother you then?
He’s not hurting anyone.
For someone like me who loves that culture, I love that he’s being so visible in representing it on such a huge stage.

I really don’t understand why so many people take issue with how him, Pogba and anyone else choose to celebrate.
Me thinking it’s daft because it’s not what I’m in to doesn’t mean that I’m bothered by Lingard doing it. I think it’s daft when I see people doing stuff like that on Twitter etc.

And I think that trap culture has been represented on a much bigger stage than even the Premier League. It’s at the forefront of music right now. Pure shite in comparison to proper hip hop in my opinion.
 
Me thinking it’s daft because it’s not what I’m in to doesn’t mean that I’m bothered by Lingard doing it. I think it’s daft when I see people doing stuff like that on Twitter etc.

And I think that trap culture has been represented on a much bigger stage than even the Premier League. It’s at the forefront of music right now. Pure shite in comparison to proper hip hop in my opinion.

‘Proper hip hop’ Is so elitist imo, hip hop was borne out of party music to make people dance. No lyrics, just the best part of the beat and something to get down to.
So in that sense, trap music is, ironically, modern day ‘proper’ hip hop.
The culture is set up for everyone to enjoy their own sub genres, looking down on one part because it’s not for you isn’t what hip hop is about at all.
There is no proper hip hop. There’s just hip hop and everything that comes along with it.
 
Shit at celebrating. Good at football.

Very capable finisher, just erratic at it. A bit of consistency in front of goal and he can claim the #10 role for now. He's definitely doing better than Mkhi and Mata so far.

He ran about and local ladded all over the place. Hope he keeps this level local ladding going in to the Derby and locals all over them.

Oh feck off :lol:

The celebration was better than the goal itself and fecking pissed off arsenal fans. It was brilliant. What's a great celebration for you? Fist pump and a "woohoo" :lol:
 
We are not sticking with him in starting squad for the long term. Soon his form will drop down or he'll find some injuries (not my wish for his bad fortune, it's just his natural habit). This is exactly what's happened for years to be fed up with
 
We are not sticking with him in starting squad for the long term. Soon his form will drop down or he'll find some injuries (not my wish for his bad fortune, it's just his natural habit). This is exactly what's happened for years to be fed up with
He is practically never injured.
 
Oh feck off :lol:

The celebration was better than the goal itself and fecking pissed off arsenal fans. It was brilliant. What's a great celebration for you? Fist pump and a "woohoo" :lol:

:lol: Basically.
 
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