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2016-17 Performances

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5.5 Season Average Rating
Appearances
42
Goals
5
Assists
4
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criticalanalysis said:
The video doesn't make it look like a 'good' performance from him but then it is out of context.
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Fairly accurate really. It wasn't great but it was reasonable, like almost all Lingard's games. He will always give you a 6-7/10 performance and against poor teams can step it up and cause real damage.

There will always be a place for him in our squad if he can accept not being an automatic starter.
 
facund said:
The highlights video shows his decent display but I can't help but distrust these things when they don't show key moments such as his assist. It was the stand out piece of play from him yesterday and yet they chose to include inane clips of him losing an aerial duel instead.

I actually had to watch it through a couple of times to make sure I wasn't imagining things.
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Sometimes, well a lot of times, the video makers aren't thorough enough with their work and the video misses touches. However, it's good to show things like aerial duels too. I haven't watched the Lingard one or know what actions will be missing so my comment is more from past experience. I know the Pogba videos often miss touches.
 
Yeah I hear what you are saying and it must be a reasonably thankless, boring task to produce such a video. I'm happy for them to include everything but if they are going to leave something out it shouldn't be his main contribution to the game. It just makes me think - What else did they leave out that might make an important difference in perception of his performance? It can turn a decent performance from Lingard in to a reasonably nothing performance on the video.

#edit# I know is it reasonably distasteful to complain about the work of others which I can enjoy for free.
 
This highlights video is probably one of the worst that i ever saw....not only does it have shit music like the rest of them its also missing half of the actions Jesse had including 2 most obvious ones - assist for Mata and "assist" for Ibra:lol::lol::lol:
 
Is he about to sign a new contract or have I made that up?
 
Funny. I missed the game yesterday but by reading this thread I got the impression that he was excellent. Now that I've read some other sites / match report, the truth seems to be that he was decent but not great. He really does polarise opinions.
 
Good pressing and off the ball work but there are just too many flaws in his game to be a starter.
 
He makes the team play better without making himself look good.
 
Sloppy defending led to a goal, but then also had 1 good touch to create a goal. Gives average mediocre performances except for a couple games here and there where he shines. Not what you'd expect of a starter on our team. For every 1 good touch/decision he makes he makes like 5 crappy ones. Works hard though so i guess the coaches love him. Long term we need Mhki to get his stuff together and perform or we will be easily countered tactically against good opponents.
 
yamo123x said:
Actually wonder if many here watched the game or just the highlights- Lingard ran about and made good assist but was largely anonymous. Opinions vary fair enough but I thought he was ordinary at best.
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It depends how you view the game and/or understand the importance of options.

I play a lot of casual football and I know my limitations and my strengths. In amongst my friends, I'm in the bottom table of being 'gifted' in terms ability and athleticism. However, not to brag about myself but I would say I'm one of the more effective players in 5 aside games.

You can have 4 amazing outfield players, who have great first touches, dribbling skills etc but who are they going to pass to, if the others aren't going to bust a gut to make that angle? Who's gonna recognise the danger of an attack and bust a gut to close the space?

Martial/Rashford are great but you can't always dribble and take on players from deep. A simple one-two when you beat the defender on their shoulder on the first step is enough to get ahead in the position. The problem is not many are willing to come for that short one-two or make that sprint for that angle.

Lingard more often than not makes that option.

Šjor Bepo said:
He makes the team play better without making himself look good.
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This really. No sarcasm or joking around.

Again obviously a fit Miki should be starting but don't discredit the contributions players like Lingard make.
 
He is constantly on the move, offering opportunities for a pass and making space for others. When he plays the other guys have more space and that one extra option to pass to. It seems like he is just running around doing nothing with no defining qualities but I said it in another thread, we have too many players who want the ball to feet from deep and the balance to this is Lingard who will run off the ball and make some space to either run into or for others to exploit.
 
Lingard is an okay-ish squad player. He has pace and loves Utd, but that's about it. I don't dislike him but he shouldn't be anywhere near our starting XI. He is fortunate that Martial is off form, Mickey doesn't look ready yet, and Depay is... well Depay. Once Martial decides to start playing well again, Lingard will be lucky to get a cup game.
 
To be honest, the term 'silent domination' is mocked around here but it does perfectly sum up Lingard's contribution to the game. Okay, maybe 'domination' is too much, but he's very effective at what he does.
 
Oaencha said:
Lingard is an okay-ish squad player. He has pace and loves Utd, but that's about it. I don't dislike him but he shouldn't be anywhere near our starting XI. He is fortunate that Martial is off form, Mickey doesn't look ready yet, and Depay is... well Depay. Once Martial decides to start playing well again, Lingard will be lucky to get a cup game.
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thats just too general assessment of him and he doesnt really have pace, hes clever little player who is not a winger in the first place but can do a job there.. shouldnt be nowhere near the starting XI, just tired of this shit, yes hes lucky that martial got injured but mickitaryan has shown nothing so far and martial himself is in a poor form, Depay is Depay yeah. Think Lingard did pretty well to start more often than not ahead of "one of the best attacking talents in the world" and The Pie was certainly rated really high before the transfer..

Lingard against all odds showed mentality of a Manchester United player and squad player or not he deserves his spot now and it is again so annoying that he becomes shit after a bad performance and after a good one there are comments like yours
 
11101 said:
Fairly accurate really. It wasn't great but it was reasonable, like almost all Lingard's games. He will always give you a 6-7/10 performance and against poor teams can step it up and cause real damage.

There will always be a place for him in our squad if he can accept not being an automatic starter.
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In terms of game influence, he's underwhelming in overall; but he always has his 'moment' in almost every game I've watched. I personally think he could make his name as a "super-sub".
 
MounchesterUtd said:
To be honest, the term 'silent domination' is mocked around here but it does perfectly sum up Lingard's contribution to the game. Okay, maybe 'domination' is too much, but he's very effective at what he does.
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Agree. He had a good game with his pressing, passing and movement.

There's always space in the squad for player like Jesse who is willing to run and move in to spaces for the team and also has a fair bit of quality. Reminds me of Park or Pedro.
 
Isotope said:
In terms of game influence, he's underwhelming in overall; but he always has his 'moment' in almost every game I've watched. I personally think he could make his name as a "super-sub".
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Disagree, having a bunch of 'moments' isn't his game and they aren't the only way to influence a game. His game influence is good overall because he makes the team and the players around him better which is exactly what you want from him.
 
I like Jesse.

I cant get away with the lad off the pitch. He comes across a bit of a tool on social media and the whole bus attack video annoyed me last season.

On the field he is a useful little player though. He picks up some brilliant positions. The out to in run he does across the back four will get goals. He’l have poor games, of course he will. Most wide men do. But he’s got a knack of being a game changer. His goals against West Brom, the winner in the cup final and his goal against Leicester where all brilliant goals.

I think he could be our new Ji Sung Park. If LVG and Mourinho have one thing in common, it’s their attention to detail and liking players who can be tactically aware and follow instructions. Both managers have when possible started Jesse.

The last 3 to 4 years must have been the hardest time for a young kid to break through. Few senior players, no leadership, poor team performances and constant negativity surrounding the club.

Jesse in that time has forced his way into the side, got a screamer of a winner in the FA cup final and been pretty much a regular when fit. Now we have a better team, better manager and hopefully we have bottomed out and are on an upward trajectory, I think Jesse will play more often than not and contribute at the same time.
 
He played fairly well. But I expect Mkhitarian to offer far more once he integrates into this team properly.
 
I don't consider myself to be a superior tactician, but I find it disconcerting that a lot of people miss his off the ball contributions. I'm not just talking about defensive work, or making himself available for a pass, but if a forward is being double-teamed, he is usually the one that makes the run that drags one away.
We always seem more dangerous with him in the team.
 
Oaencha said:
Lingard is an okay-ish squad player. He has pace and loves Utd, but that's about it. I don't dislike him but he shouldn't be anywhere near our starting XI. He is fortunate that Martial is off form, Mickey doesn't look ready yet, and Depay is... well Depay. Once Martial decides to start playing well again, Lingard will be lucky to get a cup game.
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The problem with Martial is that he doesn't offer much movement unlike Jesse. I think Martial would be better as a wide forward in Pep's side because his teams are experts at creating situations where their wide forwards have space to run into, hence Stering's mini renaissance and why Pep wanted to buy him at Bayern.

With Rooney and Martial in the side we had a chronic lack of intelligent movement in the forward positions. Mata and Lingard are much better in that regard.
 
verminater said:
I don't consider myself to be a superior tactician, but I find it disconcerting that a lot of people miss his off the ball contributions. I'm not just talking about defensive work, or making himself available for a pass, but if a forward is being double-teamed, he is usually the one that makes the run that drags one away.
We always seem more dangerous with him in the team.
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I've been more impressed by him this season, He seems to actually want the ball alot more now and is making the runs to take defenders away as you say above. Last season he was hiding to not get the ball alot and being far too basic which you cannot get away with playing for this club.

He was good on Saturday. Not spectacular or anything to that degree, but I don't think we will ever see Lingard be the type of player that will drag us through games when we are poor and dominate against the top teams. And that's why he cannot be a starter long term for this team as Mhiki for example has more in his locker and is capable of class moments (even if he didn't show that against City). I have certainly warmed to the idea of Lingard being a squad player though, but nothing more IMO.
 
Aki_United said:
Love this lad, don't get the hate about him?
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'Hater' term thrown in again. No one in here is 'hating' him, Jesse has the right to be criticised like every other player in the team. It's crazy that no one can say anything negative about the guy without being labelled a 'hater'. Never seen it like this before for any other player. You would think it was Messi the way people cling on to this guy.
 
His strengths are more off the ball than actually on the ball. Movement, making space, pressing etc. On the ball, he leaves a lot to be desired imo. I dont know how many times he touched the ball but I just dont think he's productive enough. Good player to have in the squad nonetheless but he has his limitations
 
Escobar said:
His strengths are more off the ball than actually on the ball. Movement, making space, pressing etc. On the ball, he leaves a lot to be desired imo. I dont know how many times he touched the ball but I just dont think he's productive enough. Good player to have in the squad nonetheless but he has his limitations
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Which player doesnt? Messi is best in the world and even he has limitations and weaknesses to his game.
 
Šjor Bepo said:
Which player doesnt? Messi is best in the world and even he has limitations and weaknesses to his game.
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Messi vs. Lingard, what a comparison.
If you're a very good player, your weaknesses can be overlooked. If you're a solid, ok player, then less, because you do not have as obvious strengths that make up for it like a top player
 
Escobar said:
Messi vs. Lingard, what a comparison.
If you're a very good player, your weaknesses can be overlooked. If you're a solid, ok player, then less, because you do not have as obvious strengths that make up for it like a top player
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Lingard gets the same emulation on here as Messi :D
 
Escobar said:
If you're a very good player, your weaknesses can be overlooked. If you're a solid, ok player, then less, because you do not have as obvious strengths that make up for it like a top player
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Ok, thats fair but its important to see what are player weaknesses and how does they effect his performances in the given role. For the role Jesse has, his qualities have a much bigger edge over his weaknesses, at least IMO.
And yeah, nobody compared him with Messi....
 
Vast improvement on previous showing and good assist for Mata's goal.

Not a great deal more, was trying to find him on the pitch a lot of the time but he didn't have a bad game and I even gave him a generous 7
Mkhi or Martial instead of him will improve us.

If he had played badly, we'd probably have had the "well, he hadn't played in the previous 3 games" excuse.
However, if another person says yet again "he put in a shift" - what is this supposed to mean - anyone can run around like headless chicken -not saying that he did this time
 
as-95 said:
Has anyone seen this moron's latest Snapchats? The 'give me sport' site clearly disagrees with me, but does anyone else on here not find this funny in the slightest?

Played ok on Saturday but still needs to improve alot. He should be focusing on improving his severe technical deficiencies instead of trying to look cool on social media.

http://www.givemesport.com/879451-w...-trolls-pogba-and-rashford-in-snapchat-videos
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He appears to be an intolerable unfunny idiot. Not that it matters in the slightest regarding his on-pitch performances.
 
as-95 said:
Has anyone seen this moron's latest Snapchats? The 'give me sport' site clearly disagrees with me, but does anyone else on here not find this funny in the slightest?

Played ok on Saturday but still needs to improve alot. He should be focusing on improving his severe technical deficiencies instead of trying to look cool on social media.

http://www.givemesport.com/879451-w...-trolls-pogba-and-rashford-in-snapchat-videos
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The two are not exactly mutually exclusive, whilst I think hes a bit of an idiot for his social media posts, it has nothing to do with his application to the game tbh. Everyone has free time and what he choses to do with it, is his choice tbh
 
as-95 said:
Has anyone seen this moron's latest Snapchats? The 'give me sport' site clearly disagrees with me, but does anyone else on here not find this funny in the slightest?

Played ok on Saturday but still needs to improve alot. He should be focusing on improving his severe technical deficiencies instead of trying to look cool on social media.

http://www.givemesport.com/879451-w...-trolls-pogba-and-rashford-in-snapchat-videos
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He's a bit childish isn't he? That would really get on my nerves.
 
Actually I get the feeling that he creates a lot of good atmosphere in the changing room and keeps the spirit high. I even think when he's in his prime he might make captain.
 
It's probably an inside joke... Never understood why some fans care about what footballers do off the pitch and on social media and stuff. They are just normal people after all
 
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