Decent chance he could finish level or maybe even ahead of Berbatov as a top scorer this season if he can get a couple more goals. Berbatov will probably play against Blackpool I suppose though and might get a few, but still amazing Hernandez is that close to him.
Javier Hernandez | 2010/11 Performances
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Some people forgot Torres scored nine goals for Liverpool this season.
I love this guy and have since we signed him. For me it's his personality and sincerity as much as his football abilities. Have no doubt whatsoever that next season he will step up to another level again. Would like to be the first to predict 30+ next season! I'd even say if we can learn to thread balls through to him better he could hit 40+ Hernandez has been the real star this season and has imo been the difference in the title race. However, we should not forget Berbatov's goals earlier this season and I would be pleased if he could hang on to finish top scorer. Could be a fitting end to his United career?
I'm not predicting this, just asking the question: what are the chances that Javier fails to live up to the incredible standards he's set himself this season? It's hard to see him as a "one season wonder" but is it likely that defenders will have learnt enough about him this season to severely restrict his future progress?
He'll be under more scrutiny next season. There's no question about that.
We saw it with Ruud, we'll see it with Javier.
Credit to the lad, though. Looking at him this season I've no doubt he'll rise to the bigger challenge next time. He's a quality player and seems an outstanding young lad.
As much as defenders will progress, he has the potential to do it too.He can only get stronger and more clinical. There are plenty of room for improvements outside of the box and while his speed will decline with time, he will adapt and position himself even better than he is doing now. Listening to Giggsy and Fergie for example, he comes across as a player who soaks information and use it at his advantage. One of his biggest benefits outside of the pitch is his English.
I'm sure he'll have been under plenty of scrutiny already; defenders, coaches etc will be doing their homework on him before matches, but with a player capable of his movement it's one thing planning for him and quite another actually dealing with him. Look at Valencia, it doesn't matter if you know what he's going to do, he'll still get past you.
With Hernandez he literally never stops moving and he's a thorn in the side of even the best of centre backs, dragging them all over the pitch and always leaving them guessing where he's going to be. Team that with his incredible pace and he can quite simply be unplayable. To think how young the lad is, I think he's got an incredible future ahead of him if he continues to develop his all round game.
With Hernandez he literally never stops moving and he's a thorn in the side of even the best of centre backs, dragging them all over the pitch and always leaving them guessing where he's going to be. Team that with his incredible pace and he can quite simply be unplayable. To think how young the lad is, I think he's got an incredible future ahead of him if he continues to develop his all round game.
So they shouldn't count Torres or add him those nine goals scored for Liverpool... or count only half of them scored by the rest, or those after January 31th. Or... I'll get my coat.They were discussing strikers at title challenging clubs
Even if defenders do pay more attention and track him more next season, that'll only serve to open up space for Rooney and whoever else to exploit.
What an unbelievable find from Fergie (or his scouts anyway) - not only is Hernandez a quality player, he looks like he has fallen in love with the club. Certainly he has quickly become a fans favourite. The way he speaks in interviews it's like he's been at the club for years and grew up supporting us.
Winning #19 has been some achievement of course but for me, supporting United a lot of the enjoyment is from seeing new signings or youth players succeed and this season Hernandez and Smalling have both shown that the future is bright!
Defenders don't have a clue how to deal with him. He is beyond defenders right now
The question on him is whether he can keep up the whole "mental thing" he has going right now, whether Ferguson can keep him away from the limelight yet still keep him as a newfound heroic goalscorer.
99% of this guys game is in his mind, no doubt about whatsoever. I firmly believe that his youthful naivety is what has made him such a lethal player this season.
Long may he continue to be ignorant of the world hovering just outside the football pitch. He is the classiest player we have signed in a long time.
Defenders don't have a clue how to deal with him. He is beyond defenders right now
The question on him is whether he can keep up the whole "mental thing" he has going right now, whether Ferguson can keep him away from the limelight yet still keep him as a newfound heroic goalscorer.
99% of this guys game is in his mind, no doubt about whatsoever. I firmly believe that his youthful naivety is what has made him such a lethal player this season.
Long may he continue to be ignorant of the world hovering just outside the football pitch. He is the classiest player we have signed in a long time.
Yeah but would you play him in the CL Final?
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You would start Berba in the CL final?
Pique and Puyol will just push into midfield and swamp us - they know they can beat berba in a foot race.
Luiz and Terry hardly venture forward as they were weary of Hernandez pae and movement.
How you think it will play out starting with Berba.
Defenders don't have a clue how to deal with him. He is beyond defenders right now
The question on him is whether he can keep up the whole "mental thing" he has going right now, whether Ferguson can keep him away from the limelight yet still keep him as a newfound heroic goalscorer.
99% of this guys game is in his mind, no doubt about whatsoever. I firmly believe that his youthful naivety is what has made him such a lethal player this season.
Long may he continue to be ignorant of the world hovering just outside the football pitch. He is the classiest player we have signed in a long time.
Very religious and seemingly grounded footballer - doesn't seem the sort to be attracted to the bright lights.
As squeaky clean as we could ask for IMO.
Very religious and seemingly grounded footballer - doesn't seem the sort to be attracted to the bright lights.
As squeaky clean as we could ask for IMO.
Catholic priests were very religious but not when it came to young boys. This is nor an anti-religous rant but religion is not the sole basis for moral behaviour.
Hence the seemingly grounded part too.
The way he has conducted himself does not allude to going out on the lash with the lads, or chatting up some random club girl.
I thin his religion, family, and culture play a huge part in how he lives his life, and he's probably the player i'd least expect to find on the front pages out of our entire squad.
Exactly, the only thing I think he has to really deal with is the expectation. He doesn't give the impression that he'll be one of those players that fail to deal with it though.
His game is so simple that I don't think he'll ever one of those players who will go through massive patches of bad form. The best and most important part of his game is his movement and goalscoring instinct and I can't see that ever being effected, even if centre backs are more knowledgable as to what he can do.
I reckon Hernandez is more likely to score but Berbatov is much better at wriggling out of tight corners and setting the team up.
One of the most important parts of the early game against Barca is going to be retaining possession. I think Hernandez is a legend in the making but we have to be realistic and respect our opponents. Berbatov is more likely to keep possession in a "percentages" game than Hernandez.
While our midfield has the energy I would go for the counter-attack off Berbatov, and then when everyone gets tired I would bring Hernandez on.
Also I don't think Hernandez starting and Berbatov coming off the bench late in the game is going to do much to change things. If Hernandez doesn't score early then we don't have much ammunition left.
That's my opinion, Fergie will likely surprise all of us, but that's what I think for what it's worth. I reckon Berbatov on from the start and Hernandez on late is a much better combination than Hernandez from the start and Berbatov on late.
I'd keep Hernandez, Giggs and Nani on the bench and stick them on at 70 if we are losing, personally speaking.
Zero chance of Berba playing imo, that'll just allow the Barca back-line to sit high up.
I see your point, Berbatov might provide us with a platform to build off but I don't think that's where we going to win the match. I think Hernandez is vital simply because of the high defensive line Barcelona play, it means there is tonnes of space behind their defense. If anyone can exploit it's Hernandez, with Rooney hopefully providing the passes.
I wouldn't really fancy Berbatov to play well against them, even though he's probably our best player when it comes to shielding the ball in tight areas. We need to be direct and hit at them with pace.
When is the last time we have played against a side that will signifcantly have more ball possession than us and did Berba play in that match.
If Berba holds onto the ball better it requires support from our mdifield to move up and if we lose possesion then we could be open up to a swift Barcelona counter.
Hernandez off the bench is better than Berba off the bench.
Match: Liverpool v Manchester United - Barclays Premier League - ESPN Soccernet
Liverpool game we only had 42% possession.
A deep back line might also encourage Rooney forward early on. It's if and but's but I think our main priority has to be to stifle their first team for 60-70 minutes and then hit them with our squad depth.
Barca can't match our game changing options. We have to match their early play. Winning the ball when we can and keeping the ball when we can.
That's why I think Fletcher instead of Giggs, Park instead of Nani, and Berbatov instead of Hernandez for the first 60 minutes. It's a much more defensive, possession based team, with the real thrust of Manchester United this season sitting and waiting eagerly to come on late.
That's the one thing Barca can't match.
Why not play Rooney up top and an extra midfielder if we want to stifle the game. Berba is best when we hog possession against teams who come to sit deep. In games where we are pressed early on and have less possession his impact is reduced.
No chance of Berbatov starting against Barca. Even if Hernandez got injured before the final we'd play a 5 in midfield with Rooney up top on his own.
How would you line it up though, Berbatov the furthest forward with Rooney dropping back into the hole? I'm not sure, it's a risk as it is playing with two forwards, and you don't get any of the benefit of Hernandez's pace and movement with Rooney picking up space to find him. I see the argument about impact and maintaining possession, but think we'd be better served by just going 4-5-1 with Rooney on his own if that's what we want.
I don't think Rooney can hold onto possession as well as Berbatov. The only player in our team close is Nani, and he has flaws of his own.
Ferguson might go with Hernandez from the start, but that gung ho approach cost us in Rome. I don't think it's a cut and dried question.
Yeah but we'd have an extra midfielder (talking about the 4-5-1 here), as well as more defensive stability. I think that'd be more beneficial than Berbatov.
Agreed that it's not cut and dried, a lot of things to consider, and it'll be vital to get the risk/reward balance correct. Just can't see Berbatov fitting in, which is a shame as I'm a big admirer and he's played a big part this year.
Our pace, movement and swift counter attacks are too much a feature of our game right now to swap our Hernandez for Berbatov. Keeping possesion is Barca's strength and theres no point trying to beat them at their own game. I can't imagine any scenario that Berbatov starts.
Very religious and seemingly grounded footballer - doesn't seem the sort to be attracted to the bright lights.
As squeaky clean as we could ask for IMO.
He's actually telling everyone about the Dwarf he shagged the night before and her massive baps
The only thing I don't like about him is the fact that he's religious, and his ridiculous prayers before every match.
Grow the feck up Chicha.
Grow the feck up Chicha.
Swop O'Shea for Evra (maybe Rafael for Fabio) and that's the team that'll start in the finals.
The frontline has pace in abundance and press like their lives depend on it and all have a great understanding in how each other will run. I dare say no team could have lasted without breaking down at the way we played yesterday for the opening 30 minutes.
The frontline has pace in abundance and press like their lives depend on it and all have a great understanding in how each other will run. I dare say no team could have lasted without breaking down at the way we played yesterday for the opening 30 minutes.
Berbatov is religious.
Totally understand that but remember a few things:
1: How totally rubbish he is at making an effort.
2: How surprisingly good he is at winning aerial balls.
3: How he wafts about skinning people down the flanks with Zidane roulettes like he is bored and looking for something interesting to happen.
If Ferguson manages to send the greatest rocket up Berbatovs arse in the history of all football, I think Berbatov just might solve the problem we had in Rome.
If Berbatov steps up and performs, which is a big if, then I think we have a huge chance with Hernandez coming on late and the Barca defence tiring.
Squad game, that's the key for me. Wear the Barca starting 11 out with the best defensive and possession performance that we have, then absolutely nail them in the last 20 minutes with Giggs, Nani and Hernandez.
I'm not a blind fanatic or a fool. Barcelona are probably the best team on the planet, but we have two teams.
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