Jason Wilcox - New technical director

Of course he will, a technical director is tasked with establishing compelling coaching and playing philosophies.

Usually throughout the whole structure right down to the youth teams.
And we believe that having joined at he end of last week he's already told Ten Hag what he wants to see and the expectation is to start moving to that with 6 games left in the season?

I'm sure in the long term his job will be to ensure there's a clear playing style that flows from the academy to the first team and recruitment of players and staff will be built around that but the idea that he would come in and start telling the manager what to do when he probably doesn't even have his email set up yet is not realistic. People are reading way too much in to a home game against the worst team in the league that would have been somewhat conditioned in terms of team selection and the style of play by the fact we played 120 minutes 3 days earlier.
 
Some of these have outlasted there stay anyway. Martial should have been gone years ago but due to keep changing managers there’s always the case where there given a new chance under a new manager and different style but it’s not worked under any.

It's a made up list to create clicks, jesus. Martials contract expires this summer and there's no way we're renewing it, Varane's contract also expires this summer. Amrabat is on loan. It's a bit of a no brainer. Ah, Sancho's future at Manchester United is under scrutiny, genius.

I mean, we're looking at a complete revamp of our entire infrastructure, how the club operates, there's obviously going to be an extensive report on our current squad, who we must keep, who we should keep a bit longer, who we want to sell, who we actually can sell and those we should push out the door with a compensation. The list of those we absolutely must keep is going to be fairly short, so i'd wager that 90% of the squad is under scrutiny..
 
i'm sure Fiorentina will have something to say if Wilcox sells Amrabat.
Stranger things have happened. You know, when you borrow a book or dvd from a friend but you never use it, because 5 minutes into it, you discover it's shit. And then after some time when you and your friend have long forgotten that it's his book, you sell it for half an euro on ebay with other stuff noone needs.
 
Some of these have outlasted there stay anyway. Martial should have been gone years ago but due to keep changing managers there’s always the case where there given a new chance under a new manager and different style but it’s not worked under any.
With Martial, it's more that he was well worth a spot in the team up until 20/21, at which time he was destroyed by injuries so it would've been impossible to sell him since. No club would have been willing to give us a transfer fee while also having to cover his wages.
 
Was quite clear in that first half that the team had changed to a possession style. It makes sense to implement it now to assess how players and the manager handle it. It is no coincidence that the switch happened in the first match after Wilcox was appointed. I think Berrada, Ashworth, and Wilcox have been clear on the playstyle for a while, but at least one of them had to leave the garden before they could make the switch.
 
Was quite clear in that first half that the team had changed to a possession style. It makes sense to implement it now to assess how players and the manager handle it. It is no coincidence that the switch happened in the first match after Wilcox was appointed. I think Berrada, Ashworth, and Wilcox have been clear on the playstyle for a while, but at least one of them had to leave the garden before they could make the switch.
It seemed to me that Sheffield United were just going to sit back and hope up counter
 
Was quite clear in that first half that the team had changed to a possession style. It makes sense to implement it now to assess how players and the manager handle it. It is no coincidence that the switch happened in the first match after Wilcox was appointed. I think Berrada, Ashworth, and Wilcox have been clear on the playstyle for a while, but at least one of them had to leave the garden before they could make the switch.

We played one of the worst sides in Premier League history.

I wouldn't draw any conclusions from this game.
 
While we've been poor this season, Sheffield United are still much worse.
I knew United would still win at 2-1 down purely because Sheff Utd are so bad defensively. Wouldn't have thought it against any other team. I'd expect another win over Burnley, just. But then I think the final 4 PL games are probably going to remind us how bad we are.
 
I knew United would still win at 2-1 down purely because Sheff Utd are so bad defensively. Wouldn't have thought it against any other team. I'd expect another win over Burnley, just. But then I think the final 4 PL games are probably going to remind us how bad we are.

They'll remind us how bad we are to the point where we just drop the last remaining 5th match?
 
He absolutely will have a hand in how we play and the overall style of the club moving forward, thats literally his job.
 
He absolutely will have a hand in how we play and the overall style of the club moving forward, thats literally his job.
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We played one of the worst sides in Premier League history.

I wouldn't draw any conclusions from this game.

The opposition have some part in it of course, but the disciplined way they were moving the ball, not taking too many risky passes. You can see the players are trying to play possession football. Some of our players are not suited for it at all and it shows. The style reminded me of the first month or two with Ten Hag. We had 85% possession before they scored I believe, but lost our way a little after that.
 
The opposition have some part in it of course, but the disciplined way they were moving the ball, not taking too many risky passes. You can see the players are trying to play possession football. Some of our players are not suited for it at all and it shows. The style reminded me of the first month or two with Ten Hag. We had 85% possession before they scored I believe, but lost our way a little after that.
They also remained pretty calm and stuck to the plan and it showed as we comfortably saw them off.
 
I'm seeing people say "Why would he just come in now and change it with 6 games left?"

Surely that's obvious. If true of course I see no disadvantage in trying to lay the groundwork for next season on the pitch and at the same time assess the manager and players with the new style in mind. We have relatively little to play for in the league so it's a perfect time to try it.

It's a win-win.
 
I'm seeing people say "Why would he just come in now and change it with 6 games left?"

Surely that's obvious. If true of course I see no disadvantage in trying to lay the groundwork for next season on the pitch and at the same time assess the manager and players with the new style in mind. We have relatively little to play for in the league so it's a perfect time to try it.

It's a win-win.
Exactly it is now setting the style, see if this manager is capable of delivering that, we are not getting CL, so no loss in implementing it this late in the season. See which players can operate in that system. You do not want to waste yet another season on assessing players, so it will either be ETH and they will sign more players to fit their system or a new manager that suits said system and they will get players to fit, so he will either have to like it or lump it.
 
Exactly it is now setting the style, see if this manager is capable of delivering that, we are not getting CL, so no loss in implementing it this late in the season. See which players can operate in that system. You do not want to waste yet another season on assessing players, so it will either be ETH and they will sign more players to fit their system or a new manager that suits said system and they will get players to fit, so he will either have to like it or lump it.

He's been here for two years but it's a good idea to assess his football on 6 or 7 games?
 
He's been here for two years but it's a good idea to assess his football on 6 or 7 games?
It’s not his football it’s his ability to play the football that the new ownership structure is dictating.

Again what harm is there in beginning the transition now?
 
And we believe that having joined at he end of last week he's already told Ten Hag what he wants to see and the expectation is to start moving to that with 6 games left in the season?

I'm sure in the long term his job will be to ensure there's a clear playing style that flows from the academy to the first team and recruitment of players and staff will be built around that but the idea that he would come in and start telling the manager what to do when he probably doesn't even have his email set up yet is not realistic. People are reading way too much in to a home game against the worst team in the league that would have been somewhat conditioned in terms of team selection and the style of play by the fact we played 120 minutes 3 days earlier.

As someone described, a technical director deal with non-playing staff, so lots of powerpoint, excel, and reporting. There is no way a Microsoft Office director can dictate style of play. He can run reports, do comparison on players, and even club performance on home and away, but not tactics, unless Manager reports to this Technical Director.

Can someone update us on their job description? Including the other role of Director of Football?
 
As someone described, a technical director deal with non-playing staff, so lots of powerpoint, excel, and reporting. There is no way a Microsoft Office director can dictate style of play. He can run reports, do comparison on players, and even club performance on home and away, but not tactics, unless Manager reports to this Technical Director.

Can someone update us on their job description? Including the other role of Director of Football?
Are you talking about Wilcox here? If so I think you are extremely wide of the mark.
 
Are you talking about Wilcox here? If so I think you are extremely wide of the mark.
From what you've read/know what are Ashworth and Wilcox predominantly going to be in charge of? It's a serious question, I can't really wrap my head around it. From Ducker's piece, the responsibilities he said Wilcox would have I assumed would be Ashworth's job and Ashworth's responsibilities I thought would lie with Berrada. Was a lot more simple when it was Gill & Ferguson
 
What we don't know is if Ten Hag was under any instructions from the previous regime on how to play. The obsession with "transition" football always seemed strange and at odds with Ten Hags background.
Maybe that's changed?
 
They also remained pretty calm and stuck to the plan and it showed as we comfortably saw them off.
To me, it looked like they went more direct when they went behind. Seems to me like they do not trust in the style enough to play it when losing.
 
What we don't know is if Ten Hag was under any instructions from the previous regime on how to play. The obsession with "transition" football always seemed strange and at odds with Ten Hags background.
Maybe that's changed?

His Ajax team were a transitional team from what I remember. They'd already been well coached as a possession team by Bosz, and ETH came in and added the transitional aspect.