Jarrad Branthwaite
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If Martinez is a 10 on the ball, then Branthwaite is a 7. Not amazing, but perfectly acceptable. Maybe Varane/Maguire level.
Well, doing something is generally a good indication that you can do something.
The stats I listed are generally desirable ones for a CB to have, even in a Dyche system. So if can do it, why isn't he? Tarkowski has shown himself to be better on the ball than Branthwaite this season.
Branthwaite is a decent player for his age, but how does this signing lineup with the possession based football many of us want to see next season? How do you partner him alongside Martinez when they are both ostensibly LCBs?
Make it make sense
an Everton player not even good for the England squad that has many injuries in the back, for that salary
I mean he deserves to be in there ahead of Dunk at the very least. Let alone guys like Guehi, Konsa, Gomez etc.
He played for one of the best defences in the league, so I'm fine with using that as the proxy rather than Southgate's opinions.
What is it with united and tripling wages?
Players should be willing to take pay cuts to play here, never mind 3x wage
Players should be willing to take pay cuts to play here, never mind 3x wage
Give you £25m and Maguire (valuation of £40m for the books). Seems fair
I think he'll be really good in a Dyche side honestly.
I think this probably means no Yoro
Wage a worry, hopefully that's the usual media exaggeration.
@SilentWitness Am I correct in worrying about his agility? He seems a bit slow to turn with his frame (understandable)
Because of the way Dyche plays. Compare his stats at PSV for passing and his Everton time. One that played in a way to get CBs in the ball more and passing and the other that played percentage football.
Or better yet, just watch football aswell as using fbref as a a constant way to judge players. Has been winding me up recently on the forum that people take that site as gospel.
Feck it, they should pay US. Right?!
Who is after him other than us?
Which one is it then
fecking dead right
Hopefully we can get the fee lowered over the next week or so. Would be a great signing to kick off the INEOS era.
Who else wants him? Maguire all over again and I'd argue that Maguire was far more established at the time.
Mainoo and Garnacho will obviously get significant contract bumps soon. Rasmus looks very cheap, guess he was keen to come here.
It is what it is. 150K (assuming that's correct) makes him the 12th highest earner in the squad. I'm really not too worried about it. All that matters is if he's an improvement on Lindelof/Maguire.
The thing that worries me about him is that he seems to play from the Phil Jones book of defending, ie less reading of the game and looking Rolls Royce, more last ditch tackles.
I think £60m is probably fair value for a young English CB with high potential. I'm all for this, solves problems for us across the back line, covers Martinez and Shaw's injury proneness well, is two footed and can play RCB. Sensible buy.
Honestly, I'm just trying to be optimistic more than anything and my belief/hope is more in line with the bolded. In my simple mind, having a PL 'proven' aerial, physical player with pace, that can potentially play a high line and be aggressive on the front foot is a very good bottom line. Whilst I would love a tall Martinez mark two, I can settle for this version of Branthwaite if he's capable and willing in passing the ball forwards, carrying it when pressed etc ala Varane.
I know it's not going be all rosy but I think having Dalot and Martinez next to him is a good mix of physicality, passion and leadership for him to learn/grow.
Hopefully we sign both. Surely its time for Lindelof or Maguire to exit the club. We're losing the corpse of Johnny Evans too.
A manchester united transfer if you ever saw one.
That could well be to do with tactics. Everton weren't doing so well last season or do you not take that into account?
I seen plenty of him. And I'll again say that he's a decent player. He's just not the profile we need at all. For 30 mil, he'd be worth a punt. And if he weren't English, that's what he'd probably cost.
Why pay a premium just to fit an English square peg into a round hole?
Buying a left footed CB when we already have a great one seams strange.
Duh him not me!
This is the first test for Ineos in the transfer market. Anything north of 35 to 40m would be madness and a sign that things are just as they were.
Do you not feel he’ll help shape the fabric of our new team?
He's not fast though, he's slow.Wow sounds like it may happen
Tall, fast, physical and can play ball. On paper sounds like a good partner for Martinez.
I'd imagine it's one or the other, with it being decided by the overall financial package. The other CB we buy will likely be someone on cheap like Chalobah. Branthwaite at RCB long term I guess? He's pretty 2 footed so probably fine but just seems weird to have 2 left footers there.
Since when do we believe newspaper salaries? They are almost never true
Brexit Jim and INEOS influence already beginning to show.
The rest of our signings will be Adam Wharton and Dominic Calvert-Lewin.
The rest of our signings will be Adam Wharton and Dominic Calvert-Lewin.
Yes. Branthwaite, who is a highly rated defender who manly believe will be elite.
We are talking about Branthwaite here, not a young Ferdinand.
I’m sure the same was said about a young Ferdinand at the time. Why are United paying “x” amount for an untested defender, why are they paying him that much etc etc
In fact we paid Ferdinand, (adjusted for inflation in 2024) - 125k per week, when signing for United in 2002.
At Leeds he was on 30k a week, so we’ve 4x his wages. Effectively what we’re doing now to Branthwaite.
So in reality, it’s more or less the same transfer as it was in 2002.
So anything else to complain about?
https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2000/nov/24/newsstory.sport4
https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2002/jul/23/newsstory.sport3
That's enough to end the discussion.
We're planning to make Martinez an inverted left-back maybe and use Dalot as a wing-back instead.
I'm hoping that he plays football not work in a factory
Far more agile and quicker than Maguire and a really good age.
It wouldn’t be my choice for a CB signing but I can definitely get on board with it. All the top sides are physical and we just aren’t physical enough. He would definitely be an asset in both boxes.
I don’t think Everton conceded a goal in their last 5 home games and he was at the heart of that (including a goal against Pool)
Lots of positives here if we can get the price sub- 50 million.
It wouldn’t be my choice for a CB signing but I can definitely get on board with it. All the top sides are physical and we just aren’t physical enough. He would definitely be an asset in both boxes.
I don’t think Everton conceded a goal in their last 5 home games and he was at the heart of that (including a goal against Pool)
Lots of positives here if we can get the price sub- 50 million.