Something that has gone over the heads of many posters here.
January Transfer Window
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Something that has gone over the heads of many posters here.
Yeah, noone wants to move. Come on. There are always players who want to move to Manchester United. It's up to us to be good enough to identify them and bring them here. Like we did with Vidic and Evra.
Lucas Moura’s agent hints at summer move to Manchester United
Lucas Moura’s agent says Manchester United won’t be getting the player (Picture: Getty)
Lucas Moura’s agent has told Manchester United they will have to wait until the end of the season to try and sign the PSG winger.
United have been linked with a £15million bid for the Brazilian in recent days, with South American newspaper Lancenet reporting the player was keen on the move.
However, while Lucas is unhappy with his playing time at PSG, his agent says a deal won’t happen until the end of the season.
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David Moyes had been chasing Lucas (Picture: Getty)
‘Lucas is not playing as much as we have hoped, that is true,’ said Wagner Ribiero.
‘But it’s not part of our plans to leave PSG now. He has had some chances in the team, and we will look at the situation again at the end of the season.’
Lucas joined PSG from Sao Paulo in 2013, having been subject of two failed offers from United.
Any chance of a loan?
'Don't want to move in January'. Did you deliberately miss that? It's completely possible that the players Moyes wants would rather make the switch in the summer than move to a new club and having to acclimatize to a new league 6 months before the WC.
Of course Moyes could change his targets and sign someone else but then he'd be accused of making panic signings (ala Fellaini).
I don't see why players wouldn't want to move in Jan as a rule. There'd be some instances where players want to finish the season, are chasing a trophy and want to finish the job, don't want to move and be cup tied, have a rapport with fans or whatever. It's probably quite common. But I'd still say most players would be happy enough to move in Jan as in August. I can't see its make a huge amount of difference to them, it'd be more of an issue for the selling club I'd imagine.
It wouldn't be panic buying if he actually gets quality footballers. Getting another Fellaini for 27 million would.
I personally don't think we look capable of a top 4 finish without some strengthening. The way I see it, we seem to need signings to make the top 4. In the end it is about getting the right players whether it's now or the summer is not that important. But a shrewd buy or two without spending big could give us the lift we need.
If you pay the selling club enough that shouldn't be a factor either. They're going to ask for even more after the World Cup so I'm not sure it's as relevant as people make it out to be.
I'd rather Moyes stick with his first choice targets. If we have to wait until the summer then so be it.
Maybe. If clubs feel they can't replace outgoing players it might dissuade them. Even if it is rooted mainly in perception it can be a self fulfilling prophecy. But with the WC, as you say, this season it might well be less of an issue. I don't know.
The main targets Moyes wants are likely unavailable, but I agree getting a player in now could be the huge boost the club needs to grab that CL spot and the money gained from grabbing that CL spot could offset any reasonable purchase made now.
For example, this Hernanes is apparently looking for a move and a number of Caftards (who know more about him than I) seem to think he could do a job. Could we not grab him for £15m and still pursue the likes of Gundogan, etc., in the summer?
All being well, United end up with a stronger squad in the long run.
I think there needs to be flexibility. If he's sure he's going to get a great player in the summer then sure. But why just that? We clearly need more than one player. I'm not actually sure whether any of our central midfielders barring Carrick is actually good enough for us and he's getting on a bit now.
And I think you're sort of underplaying the importance of finishing 4th. It will affect us in the future. That's why I think we need to make a shrewd move or two this January, much like Chelsea have achieve their goal (of 1st rather than 4th). We don't need to jeapordize the sure shot perfect signings we have lined up for the summer (I don't think we do) but some intelligent signings to give us a shot in the arm.
Your second paragraph is exactly what I'm saying. We can have all these big names in our head but it's always going to be tough to actually to get them. That doesn't mean we stand still till those players finally want to come to us. You have to keep looking for players who can make you stronger. Everyone knows we need more than one midfielder.
Why not sign a young talent or two who are cheaper but we rate who won't fix things immediately? For me, our rate of activity in our area of gaping weakness has been shocking over the years. We keep signing zaha's, obertan's, bebe's and Young's for wide positions, Hernandez', henriquez's out wide, but we barley make any additions in central midfield.
I think the gap you speak of was partly due to the departure of Pogba and Morrison (additionally the failure of Gibson) but I agree if we don't rate the current crop of midfielders coming through with us then we should be after some youngsters with potential.
I'm sure those we have been looking at over the last couple of years would have been communicated to Moyes, it just depends on whether he feels he needs to assess them over a longer period himself.
According to Sport.es, Barcelona might listen to offers for Alexis & Alves. PSG seems to be interested for both, and ready to offer 40M euros for Alexis. (can we match that?)
Anyway, if they are looking to bring Alexis, maybe Lucas Moura is on his way out, to us. =)
ps. Barcelona want Gundogan and David Luiz
Anyway, if they are looking to bring Alexis, maybe Lucas Moura is on his way out, to us. =)
ps. Barcelona want Gundogan and David Luiz
According to Sport.es, Barcelona might listen to offers for Alexis & Alves. PSG seems to be interested for both, and ready to offer 40M euros for Alexis. (can we match that?)
Anyway, if they are looking to bring Alexis, maybe Lucas Moura is on his way out, to us. =)
ps. Barcelona want Gundogan and David Luiz
Somehow all these players will move this Jan or in the summer and we'll end up with none of them.
If Barcelona or Madrid end up with Gundogan, it'd be utterly depressing.
You genuinely think we'll get him? We've feck all chance when they become interested.
If City/Chelsea, any other of our CL qualifiers along with the big Europe clubs get involved we are screwed. We have a new manager, who has never spent big money, a new chief exe. who has never signed players, before Fellaini and owners who I suspect think this is a good opportunity to save some money. I don't like the way we are haggling over transfer fees, yes, you want a good deal, but they are taking it to a new level. I wish they could have got David Gill to help out with the negotations for a couple of windows.
Kagawa was only willing to listen to our offer despite the late interest from Madrid and Valencia rejected Madrid before signing for us so it's not unthinkable. If interested, Madrid and Barca would be favorites to get him, but I do think we stand a chance of getting him if he's open to coming here and Woody gets his act together.
That was Ferguson's Manchester United, who were also in the Champions League.
Liverpool really should be in for a keeper, Mignolet will single handedly hand United fourth place. He's a fecking disaster.
The January transfer window basically opens on the 25th. It's rare for a big side to do anything before then. Wenger's said as much.
Anyone purchased after that date will also automatically be labelled a panic buy, transfer window lore.
Why? Best clubs getting best players, whats weird about it??
rumours on twitter (via lord Muppet palmeri)about us trying to get vermalen from arsenal while inquiries were made about astori of cagliari.
yeah okThats it. No point in following that idiot.
Manchester United preparing for Wayne Rooney exit with sensational swoop for superstar Edinson CavaniFears are growing that the England striker will quit Old Trafford after the World Cup - and David Moyes has sanctioned a move for the PSG striker to replace himReds target: Edinson Cavani has been unsettled at PSG
GettyManchester United are gearing up for a sensational swoop on superstar Edinson Cavani as they prepare for life without Wayne Rooney, writes Steve Bates of the Sunday People.
Boss David Moyes has sanctioned a move for PSG’s unsettled Uruguayan with fears growing at Old Trafford that Rooney may decide to jump ship after the World Cup finals in the summer.The 28-year-old England hitman is out of contract in June next year and is thought to be waiting to see how the season develops before making any decisions on his future.Luis Suarez’s Uruguay strike partner Cavani – disillusioned by the state of football in France just six months after his £53million move from Napoli – is seen by Moyes as the ideal replacement.The 26-year-old is said to be disappointed with the standard of France’s Ligue 1 and believes French football is lacking in passion, intensity and atmosphere.Getty
Nearly decision time: Rooney could leave after this summer's World Cup United know that after the transfer window disaster of last year they have to be on the front foot – and the capture of Cavani would appease Old Trafford fansshould Rooney leave.Cavani’s advisors believe Old Trafford would be the ideal destination if PSG allow him to move on – and last night Moyes hinted a major signing is on the cards. “Judging by trips I’ve made recently and the things I am hearing, what has happened so far this season won’t be an issue when we sign players,” he said.“The number of big players wanting to join Manchester United is incredible.Trip “Maybe players want to go to other clubs for the money but if you ask them where they really want to be, what badge they really want to wear, then they’ll say Manchester United.”Any deal for Cavani would be likely to cost United at least £55million.In just 26 games for PSG this season Cavani has scored 18 goals – after bagging an impressive 104 in 138 matches in Serie A for Napoli.Moyes took a trip to Paris to watch PSG beat Bordeaux in the French League Cup last week, although Cavani started on the bench before coming on as a substitute to set up the final goal in a 3-1 win.The Uruguayan is not the only name on Moyes’s wishlist.It’s believed United scouts have watched Schalke’s German whizkid Julian Draxler, with Arsenal also hot on the trail of the 20-year-old attacking midfielder who has a£37million buy-out clause in his contract.
Yayyyy more names on the list. Star is also running with this story
Looks like Cavani has been doing a lot of masturbating! Clearly a sign of discontent and a sure sign he's United bound!!!
The Sundays are also linking us with a £15m bid for Seamus Coleman.
Manchester United have sensationally failed to sign Wayne Rooney replacement Cavani after it became clear they couldn't pay the kasquillion pound transfer fee the PSG owners were asking for, nor could they match his £450,000 a week wage.
It comes as another setback after we revealed last week that they were unable to get Messi on loan despite his apparent unhappiness at his lack if games throughout December.
The only way that happens if Rafael is tag teaming the daughter with Fabio.
I think there will be a statement of intent purchase - our Ozil, if you will. I think we'll have to wait until the summer (although I would love a bargain purchase now), but I can see us spending Ozil money on one player. The player may not please everyone, but I can see it. Woodward's in marketing, I'm sure he can see it too. I think the Bale story is true myself.
Cavani for £50m?
Cavani for £50m?
Mata's doing the rounds as well. I suspect that's more to do with tomorrows game though.
Unless Rooney is part of the deal, I think that's a non-starter and you're bang on.
I think it's time to start panic buying.
All in on Cabaye
It's imperative we buy someone. We really do look short this season, someone who can create or score a goal or two would be nice. Whether that is in centre midfield or a winger doesn't really matter but we need someone in one of those positions or if not both to score and create goals. Seriously lacking in that department.