Yayy we have 200 million. Now watch as we don't spend a single penny of it!
January Transfer Window
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'Rescue Kitty' 
Griezmann more fancy than Angel di Maria!? Behave!
So tell me why you prefer him?
We been hearing for months about this kitty. Actions speak louder than words.
I don't give a toss if you need to pay the buyout clause for certain players. Just sign them up. Ship out the dross. Also remember we got Ferdinand and Evra leaving in summer, so two high earners off the bill.
Perhaps better with Moyes and/or Woodwards' face.
We've had that warchest for so long we can probably start buying players purely from the interest soon.
I prefer Griezmann because I think he'll become better than Di Maria and he's been excellent this season to follow on from last year. Really progressing.
He's scored 12 goals in 16 games for a struggling La Liga side, well at least struggling at the beginning of the season.
Di Maria is the better all-round player at the moment though. But as I've already mentioned, Real Madrid won't sell Di Maria in this transfer window. It's highly unlikely that he'll move on. I would take Di Maria of course, just don't feel he's realistic at the moment unless we throw an awful lot of money at Madrid.
The Glazers will never pay for that, they will tell the manager to look for value, and he will say there is no value in the market. Then they will say carry on for now Mister Moyes.
It is a sorry state of affairs that the club I love has been taken over by people who have zero interest in the club and most interest in how much money they can get out of it. Goodbye and good luck, we will need it.
Can he play CM?
Reus ~ £45 million
Koke ~ £35 million
Coentrao ~ £15 million
None of which are freaking central midfielders!!!
Koke ~ £35 million
Coentrao ~ £15 million
None of which are freaking central midfielders!!!
His sheer presence would inspire the like of Fellaini to kick on and not be useless, like Cantona did. He is, in fairness, that kind of player. Not a chance he'd sign for us but I'd 100% endorse his move if he would. I'd say it would work out great.
Reus ~ £45 million
Koke ~ £35 million
Coentrao ~ £15 million
None of which are freaking central midfielders!!!
The Koke one is confusing. He plays on the inside right, but it seems that a lot think he is a CM. Reckon we'd play him there if we did get him?
I can count the amount of times Koke has played in CM on one hand. He'd be perfect at Arsenal, just not sure how he'd fit at United. Its a bit like Januzaj, playing on the wing but his best position is probably the hole. Just like Kagawa in fact... I'd like him at United, just think CM really needs to be the priority. Someone who's used to playing in a 2 man midfield...
I've seen him in the middle a few times, and from everything I've heard his main position is in the middle. According to whoscored he's playing mostly not he left this season, and on the right a bit too, but it's mostly spread out. He's capable of playing defensive midfield, attacking midfield, centre midfield, or on either flank, but I don't think he's a winger type player. It's probably a bit of the jones situation. He's a centre back by trade, but he's mostly played in midfield or right back because we have plenty of other players at centre back, just like they have plenty of others in midfield but not so much on the wing.
I've seen Koke in the centre a good few times, he's more than capable. I wouldn't be concerned.
So Hernandez and welbeck get even less chances then before? Sorry but striker is probably the only outfield position that we are as good as any team in the world at.
I get the feeling we'd be chasing a player like this to influence a change in our system rather than shoving him into a 4-4-2. Having 3 or 4 players comfortable at moving the ball and moving with the ball (lets say Rooney, Januzaj and two new players as an example...Koke and someone else) with RVP in front and Carrick anchoring. Like Arsenal or Atletico it doesn't rely on having wingers per se, but players who are comfortable and flexible within the system.
Here's to hoping David Moyes has some sort of tactical nous and is chasing players to change us rather than changing players to fit into this horrendous, boring, uninventive system we persist with.
Please note it's late, I'm doing an assignment, I'm procrastinating, I'm dreaming of us one day playing amazing football, my cat won't leave me alone and I'm pretty sure there is a man stood behind me with a knife.
Ah yeah, you're right - all I'm saying is that for £2/3 million you're unlikely to find another player who would have such a big initial impact. I could see him having a Cantonaesque effect on the squad - sure didn't he stop a war or something?
Are you suggesting that United could switch to a 4-3-3, or some other more fluid system?
I really hope Moyes has that kind of alternative thinking to see what's currently being used isn't working.
Yeah why not. I love being alternative, edgy and I don't mind fluid either.
He did try 4-3-3 at the start of the season, at least in the shield game with Wigan.
feck me, Mark Ogden thinks we should be looking to buy Kyle Walker. Kyle 'fecking shithead' Walker. While 'realistic' targets include Joleon Lescott and Debuchy. Its like these people don't watch football at all and get paid for their opinions on it.
For the full muppet list:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...David-Moyes-has-to-strengthen-in-January.html
For the full muppet list:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...David-Moyes-has-to-strengthen-in-January.html
Sturridge's day seems to be every day. His goal record is incredible. He scores all types of goals and is consistent against most teams (ie. He'll score against big and small teams).
Coutinho showed his class last season. The Williams injury has put him slightly off. His shooting has been gash and his through balls have been slightly off. He's still producing dribbles and touches that set up chances or make you go "wow!"
Harsh to leave Sturridge out of that. Sakho has been excellent too.
Jesus. Moyes was unpopular enough after signing Fellaini. If he follows that up with Walker, Baines and Lescott the caf will actually lynch him.
Sid Lowe has said there's no chance Koke leaves til the summer. He and Costa have both given Atletico assurances that they don't intend on leaving in January. Honegstein has also said no chance Reus leaves until his release clause comes into effect.
Who is going to pay twice what you paid for Buttner?
Don't need people telling you Koke isn't leaving in January. Anyone who thinks he might is either a)12 years old or b) have rocks in their head.
You also seem to be missing the point that I'm making - specifically that these players were not on the radar of the top clubs and were a significant risk. Liverpool couldn't go out and buy established players because they didnt have the money - so they needed to take a punt.
This has worked for them, in the short term at least - although whether it actually gets them into the top 4 remains to be seen. They're too relaint on Suarez for me.
The big issue here is that they're good examples of players who didn't cost a lot and have done well. That's not easy to do without the benefit of hindsight - and frankly, in my opinion, the club need to be going for players a level above, rather than taking a risk on £10 million pound players.
Arsenal are a good example of what can happen if you dont invest. They havent won anyting in years, have lost world class players - and until Ozil, tried to repalce them with players costing half as much. Seems Wenger has realised that this isnt working - even he realises that the game has changed and winning a title with a squad of homegrown players or kids picked up on the cheap isnt a realistic propsect.
@RedRover
People say we're reliant on Suarez, yet when he was out we coped. People said we were reliant on Sturridge, yet he is out and we're coping. Just think, in a few days we'll have them both fit.
I think the ideal scenario for any club is a bit of both. I think you could go out and spend big on a player, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't take a risk on a player because he's cheap. I've seen Rakitic linked for €35m and £7m. If he's available for the latter figure I think he'd improve you massively and at such a small price, even if he fails to adjust a club like United can write it off.
People say we're reliant on Suarez, yet when he was out we coped. People said we were reliant on Sturridge, yet he is out and we're coping. Just think, in a few days we'll have them both fit.
I think the ideal scenario for any club is a bit of both. I think you could go out and spend big on a player, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't take a risk on a player because he's cheap. I've seen Rakitic linked for €35m and £7m. If he's available for the latter figure I think he'd improve you massively and at such a small price, even if he fails to adjust a club like United can write it off.
All true.
Maybe, I would prefer we bring in a player who's 100% comfortable playing in central midfield. Looking at this, he's played DM, CM once, 7 AM's, LW 9 times, RW/RM 9 times. From what I've seen of Koke on TV he's always looked like a winger that likes moving infield, a bit similar to Nani in that regard. Granted I've only seen him a handful of times and I may simply have watched him when he was picked as a winger. I'm no expect on Koke, I'm just aware that he's barely been picked as part of a two man midfield, which is the type of player we REALLY need. Someone with experience in that position and a fecking good player to play alongside Carrick.
Fair enough. I think long term though that your success will dependant on keeping Suarez, because he's head and shoulders above everyone else in the team.
You're right with your second point - but it all depends on where a club is at at any particular time. The issue with buying "risky" players is that as with all players, they need time to adjust, by which time you could be well off the pace. Its fair to assume that the more money you spend (as long as its spent wisely), the more likely you are to get a player who can come in and do a job immediately. hence why the best players cost the most money.
Again - Arsenal are a good example. Lose Fabregas and replace him with Arteta, lose RVP and repalce him with Giroud, lose Nasri and replace him with Gervinho, lose Clichy and repalce him with Santos. Extreme examples but you'll only head one way. Wenger seems to realise that its not as simple as selling high and buying low - I suspect more big money signings will be made to keep them competative.
Spurs aren't going to sell you Kyle Walker, just like Everton aren't going to go sell you Baines.
So you're moaning about players that (a) are not available to you; and (b) are better than the United players (Smalling and Evra) who usually/often play for you in the respective positions concerned.
So well done, your moaning is a double waste of time.
You're grand Glaston you can keep Walker. Hes fecking shite
He's right though, he's a better RB than Smalling. But that's because Smalling is a freaking CB.
He's right though, he's a better RB than Smalling. But that's because Smalling is a freaking CB.
Smalling is still a better right back defensively imo. Walker is an utter liability defensively.
Walker isn't that bad defensively, I've been forced to watch a lot of Spurs this season and the danger has normally come through the middle targeting the woeful Dawson. If anything, his attacking play has been well under par. Although I think he's missed Lennon not being in the team.
For me, he's way better than Nani and much more regular. He's class for sure. And I'm not a fan of his.