January Transfer Window

I really hate all this "not available" bullsh!t.

When are top players ever really available? You force them being available by unsettlling them, getting amongst their agents and backing team, and putting big money in.
 
Pretty much everyone is available if you pay the right price.

We simply need to throw the cash at the right players. It's that simple.
 
What if they don't want to move until the summer in case they get a better offer? Or if (like Koke) they still have an obvious opportunity for success this season? If they say they want to wait a few months what are we supposed to do, demand they leave instantly? They'll just tell us to feck off and we'll watch them join other clubs in the summer.
 
Di Maria & Coentrao for our left side. Both want out. Just fecking do it Moyes.
 
Coentrao, definitely. Would be our best left back and is probably available at a bargain price. Think there's more to come from him too, he wasn't really that happy at Madrid.

Di Maria I'm in two minds over. He obviously has quality but I've heard enough reports of his inconsistency to be wary. There's no point in signing a second Nani.
 
Pretty much everyone is available if you pay the right price.

We simply need to throw the cash at the right players. It's that simple.
But thats bollocks. Why the hell would a club sell their best player (cos that'll be what we'll be interested in) if they're in the position that they could qualify for the champions league, or even win their league. Take Koke. Why would Atletico sell him before next season? If they win their league with him being pivotal, or even qualify for next seasons Champions League that could make 60 million difference to their finances. We'd have to make that up for them to even think about it. We're not going to spend 60 million on a relatively unproven player.

What I don't get with a lot of people on here is this amazing assumption that other clubs will say yes at some point. The player is under contract. They don't have to. According to a lot of you we could just snap our fingers and Newcastle will simply let Cabaye go. Why the hell should they? He could be the difference for them getting Europe at the end of the season. Also, how do they justify to their fans that they let their best player go in January?

Buying players is not simple. I tend to believe people when they state that its difficult in January. The selling team has to have a replacement lined up otherwise they go into the second half of the season light. They have to be able to justify it to their fans. We're not the only fecking team in the universe.
 
I'd replace Young or Valencia with di María, he's good but he reminds me a lot of Nani with the inconsistency. Coentrão is a no brainer.
 
Worse than our current options though?

Nope not worse but I think we should buy a top quality winger, not one like him in my opinion. We'd have to sell one to bring one in too. We've got too many.

He's more talented than most but he's been playing poorly. He didn't deserved to get booed just because he isn't playing well but Madrid fans are spoilt.
 
mate...it makes too much sense.

I expect another 8 mil bid for Baines.


Di Maria is extremely one footed albeit nowhere near Valencia levels. Him and Coentrao would instantly add a much needed injection of technical ability and pace to our side. We are scarily lacking pace throughout the side right now.

Di Maria is better than all of our current wingers, I can't believe it's even being debated. Nani's top level is probably higher but what's the point when he reaches it once in a blue moon. Di Maria would walk in and stand out a mile in this current group for me.
 
Thing with Di Maria is that he's also a hard worker. But he also provides quality, which is something we lack. He is also a goal threat from the wide areas.
 
Coentrao - yes. Di Maria - no. Too inconsistent. Di Maria is very talented but frustrating.
Really? You would prefer to persist with the woeful performances Valencia, Young, and Nani have been giving us? Without doubt di María would be excellent at United, I have watched him closely since he was a young prospect at Benfica. However, it's difficult to imagine any player of his calibre relishing the chance to play for David Moyes in the Europa League next season.
 
Nope not worse but I think we should buy a top quality winger, not one like him in my opinion. We'd have to sell one to bring one in too. We've got too many.

Name a consistent top class winger?

Di Maria is one of few who stands out if we looking for a winger. The other is Draxler, but he might end up playing behind the striker.
 
Di Maria is extremely one footed albeit nowhere near Valencia levels. Him and Coentrao would instantly add a much needed injection of technical ability and pace to our side. We are scarily lacking pace throughout the side right now.

Di Maria is better than all of our current wingers, I can't believe it's even being debated. Nani's top level is probably higher but what's the point when he reaches it once in a blue moon. Di Maria would walk in and stand out a mile in this current group for me.


why are you trying to convince me? start e-petition or write to Woodie :)
 
If you could sign those two I'd give them a piggy back to Old Trafford

no brainer for me
 
David Moyes faces disappointment over the signings of Real Madrid's Fabio Coentrão and Atlético Madrid's Koke despite the Manchester United manager's urgent wish to strengthen this month.

Coentrão has agreed a deal to join United but the champions may miss out on the left-back for a second consecutive window as Real do not want to sell any players during January. "No players are leaving and we're not going to sign anyone," said Carlo Ancelotti, the Real manager, on Sunday. "The window is closed for us."

Despite the public stance, there remains hope that Jorge Mendes, Coentrão's agent, will be able to persuade Real to sell the 25-year-old, who has made only four starts in La Liga this season and was reportedly upset when Moyes failed to sign him in the summer transfer window.
Moyes turned to the Portuguese on the closing day of the last window after alast-ditch bid to purchase Leighton Baines from Everton was rejected. The United manager, who is keen to bring competition at left-back, ended a difficult summer by seeing his hopes of taking Coentrão to Old Trafford break down owing to an issue over paperwork.

As far as Koke is concerned, United have the funds to acquire the midfielder but believe there will be difficulties in trying to sign the 21-year-old. The Atlético sporting director, José Luis Pérez Caminero, signalled as much when stating the player will not leave the club in mid-season. "Koke will be with us for many years. I am convinced," Caminero said. "He is a player who has improved considerably. [He] has also made it into the Spain squad and that puts you in the spotlight and opens more eyes."


http://www.theguardian.com/football...nited-fabio-coentrao-koke-transfer?CMP=twt_gu
 
Name a consistent top class winger?

Di Maria is one of few who stands out if we looking for a winger. The other is Draxler, but he might end up playing behind the striker.

Init. Wingers are by nature quite inconsistent, they don't always get their cross right or make the right decision. Ribery and Robben feck up from time to time. Inconsistent is a word naturally associated with a winger.

Always thought he was made for the Prem with his style and of course Fergie himself wanted Di Maria when he was at Benfica. There's not many better than this lad out there that we could get without paying £80m or something stupid. We'd be extremely stupid not to at least enquire right now as to whether he is available.

There were rumours throughout the summer that he wasn't happy, certainly with Bale's arrival and Jese's emergence and he clearly isn't. And now the Real crowd have turned on him, there's not usually a way back after that.
 
Name a consistent top class winger?

Di Maria is one of few who stands out if we looking for a winger. The other is Draxler, but he might end up playing behind the striker.

Reus, Ribery, Robben. There's not many top class wingers out there but I think there are others better than Di Maria, unrealistic though. I would take him, yes but wouldn't pay more than £25m plus we would have to sell a winger. Can't see that happening. Wingers seem to be a dying breed. A lot seem to be number 10's or wannabe number 10's.
 
Di Maria or Antonio Valencia??? hmmmmmmmmmm. Even though i know we aren't interested i wouldn't turn that offer down.
 
I think maybe people are taking too seriously the line from Madrid of "nobody will leave". Even if that wasn't the case they should be expected to say little else. I always wonder whether fans/journalists expect any club to say "Oh players? Oh yes mate, going to be a feckin' shop window here January. Welcome one, welcome all"
 
the thing is...which alledged world class players would want to come to United at the moment?



A few. To be honest the fans view of these things is far more short-sighted than those within the game. The fact we're going though a sticky patch is hardly going to bother anyone that much when it comes to deals.
 
the thing is...which alledged world class players would want to come to United at the moment?

Quite a few. We're one of the biggest clubs in the world. Bigger than the likes of Atletico or Dortmund, where a few of our dream signings dwell. Moyes hasn't changed that.

Edit: Though maybe not in January.
 
Reus, Ribery, Robben. There's not many top class wingers out there but I think there are others better than Di Maria, unrealistic though. I would take him, yes but wouldn't pay more than £25m plus we would have to sell a winger. Can't see that happening. Wingers seem to be a dying breed. A lot seem to be number 10's or wannabe number 10's.

Robben and Ribery are both in their 30s. And I recall Robben was labelled inconsistent a few years ago.

There's not much better wingers available than Di Maria.
 
Di Maria would improve us immeasurably, even if he's inconsistent he'd be an improvement over Valencia and Young.

Di Maria/Nani -----Rooney/Kagawa-------Januzaj/Nani
--------------------------------RVP---------------------------
 
Di Maria would be a good signing. People also need to understand that we're borderline desperate right now, if we're going to wait until Fabregas becomes available for 25m, then we're: a- not going to sign anybody. b- might very well not make it to the champions league next season, which makes (a) even more difficult.

We need to freshen up a little, as we need the quality and the psychological boost.. I admit it won't be easy though in January.
 
Robben and Ribery are both in their 30s. And I recall Robben was labelled inconsistent a few years ago.

There's not much better wingers available than Di Maria.

Still wouldn't go for him.

I'd rather go in for Griezmann.