January Transfer Window
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According to Ballague on Revista tonight, we wont be going back for him as we simply don't think he's worth the money and Bilbao wont budge.
Good, that would be my assessment too. He'd be a nice player to have but is definitely not worth that sort of money and would by no means 'solve' our midfield gap the way a Fabregas or Thiago would.
Going by what a few posters on here have said, it's true that he probably isn't worth the money. Problem is, what other targets are there? Even forgetting about January, who is likely to be available next summer who fulfills the "World Class but relatively cheap" requirement the club has set for itself?
Pirlo. Pirlo.
Pirlo.
And De Rossi.
But Pirlo.
Januzaj-Pirlo-Carrick-Nani/Kagawa
Pirlo.
And De Rossi.
But Pirlo.
Januzaj-Pirlo-Carrick-Nani/Kagawa
Pirlo is such a weird call to make, he's 34 and will most likely stay at Juventus for the rest of his career. His contract expires at the end of season but I imagine they are going to offer him a new one, they'd have to be utterly mad not to.
We'll have to accept that those two requirements don't usually come in the same package.
Gundogan. He won't go for a lot of money as he will only have a year left. The only problem is that the whole world will be after him, and when everyone is after a player they mostly end up at Real or Barca.
Have Madrid and Barca been linked with him? Or is this all in your head because you think he's a great player...
Neither so far, I think, although Barca may have been linked. It's mostly in my head though and I'd be extremely surprised, in the most beautiful way possible, if he ends up at United.
Pirlo. Pirlo.
Pirlo.
And De Rossi.
But Pirlo.
Januzaj-Pirlo-Carrick-Nani/Kagawa
You've actually used a drool smiley for that midfield? I've seen it all now.
Please make it happen.
Pirlo. Pirlo.
Pirlo.
And De Rossi.
But Pirlo.
Januzaj-Pirlo-Carrick-Nani/Kagawa
Pirlo would be a terrible purchase, ffs.Gundogan would be my dream signing, seems like a perfect fit for what we need. Can't imagine both Barca and Real passing on him though and if either of them are interested they'll probably get him.
I wonder if any of the Bayern CMs will become available? They seem too overstocked there for everybody to be happy long term.
Wouldn't be surprised if we make another attempt at Fabregas, for no apparent reason.
No one will leave Bayern, Kroos, Martinez, Thiago and Schweinsteiger will all have roles to play and they've already let Gustavo go to keep the balance right.
As for Gundogan, even if he's on the move I seriously doubt we'd be after him or that he'd pick us ahead of all the other clubs that would undoubtedly make their moves.
As for Gundogan, even if he's on the move I seriously doubt we'd be after him or that he'd pick us ahead of all the other clubs that would undoubtedly make their moves.
So, once he does move will you complain we didn't make a move? Or slate the management for not getting him? Or slate them for getting someone who isn't as good as Gundogan?
This is what riles me about midfield targets: everyone wants the very best, thinks we can't get the very best, complains when we don't get the very best, further complain about overpaying for second best, and start rioting if we don't get anyone because... you know... no one good enough was available.
fecking hell.
Thing is, we want the best because we should be able to get the best and our management claims to be after the very best. Our stature sets those expectations. We then fail to compete with the other top clubs for those premium players, often because they seem to be beyond what we're willing to pay. This reluctant to spend is an even bigger problem for us as we have other difficulties to overcome when convincing a player to come (location, glamour, wage etc.) This very cautious approach would be more understandable if we didn't then overpay for lesser players. It really doesn't make that much sense, so it's no surprise people complain.
The belief that we can't compete with Barca or Real comes from previous bad experiences. It doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to compete with them.
In short WE ARE SCREWED. Hell knows how we've managed to win soo much titles with our lack of spending, shit location and BIG club rivals on our back.
Bayern have Schweinstieger, Martinez, Thiago and Kroos but given the fact they are collecting Germany's best then they can't be ruled out. Barcelona have Fabregas and Sergi Roberto waiting to step into the Xavi role and weren't they linked with Oliver Torres? There's no point in working out whether Real Madrid would go for him based on what hey have as that has zero bearing on how they do things. Then you can't rule out the two rich Frnech sides.
So it would certainly be difficult for us to get Gundogan but I'd hope we would at least go all out to get him.
So it would certainly be difficult for us to get Gundogan but I'd hope we would at least go all out to get him.
Did I say we were screwed? Or that it's not possible to keep winning things without getting the very top rated players? Or even that going for those players is always the right move?
Thing is, we're at least one of the three biggest clubs in the world. It's not that outlandish to think we could compete or players at that level. Or question the wisdom of not matching our real rivals in the transfer market.
I'd also point out that the things we've achieved while underspending might have a lot to do with SAF being arguably the greatest manager of all time. Will Moyes get the same results with the same resources? Hell no.
I doubt we will sign the players we need in January, its just not a good time to sign quality players. The end of the season is when we will see the major signings taking place. If we do sign someone in January it will be because we got lucky with a quality player being unsettled and wanting out of where he is.
Baines or Coentrao are between the margins of something that could be possible...
Moyes was at the Fleetwood v Chesterfield game today ,allegedly looking at Tendayi Darikwa.
Who?
I was at the game, he had a couple of decent efforts on target, but didn't really stand out.
£28 million it is then
You havent taken into account his £27 million buy out clause, so it will probably be more like £33m
Apparently the manager of fleetwood town is a player he managed at Preston, so he could have just been invited over without necessarily being on a scouting mission.
What, he's wasting an opportunity to scout players? Moyes Out!
this guy quite good every time i watch him... always tidy on the ball, can pass the ball well. Good tackler...
what means cute price? 10M pounds?
Swap for Anderson + cash?
Good addition i think... it would mean no more Jones in midfield (which i was starting to like actually, Jones looks much more comfortable on the ball these days) but he could get back to his position as CB, if Rio were to leave soon...
meh... probably wont happen.
Fernando is the guy Martinez tried to get to replace Afroman isn't he?
He sounds like a Cricketer.
He sounds like a Cricketer.
In fairness, we may not need to buy in Jan unless a very good player becomes available and we want to wrap up a deal before the Sugar Daddy clubs come sniffing. What we need is for the current players we have to play up to their potential and provide some squad cohesion.
Express are saying we'll be moving for Alexis Sanchez this January.
I like that Octopus dude from Porto that we're looking at. Would bring some real aggression, energy and mobility to our midfield. Although that would mean we still have no real playmaker in our midfield. But it could also mean we could play both him and Fellaini and release our front four players to do their thing without much defensive responsibility.
I don't believe we will. There is no reason to think that he wants to leave or Barca want to sell (I know that didn't apply to us moving in for Cesc but we must have learnt our lesson?). He is playing regularly, playing well, scoring and assisting. It doesn't make sense.