Police caution, public humiliation, professional bollocking/warning and constant reminders of what a tosser he is should be enough in my opinion. It's a shameful moment but it shouldn't really cost him his career.
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How are people saying where he aimed? He really built up some volume on that and just fired indiscriminately from the looks of things. Basically lost his head and spit in the general direction.
I don’t think Eric is the best example considering his previous indiscretion.
In what sort of parallel universe do those of you arguing he shouldn’t be sacked live? The damage to the SkySports brand alone is a firing offence. I’m late to this news too as I’ve been travelling since Saturday, not really plugged into news. I genuinely can’t believe he was/is that thick.
I honestly don’t know, I don’t think I’d get fired but not sure.
I think Sky will only fire him if they feel it will negatively impact their views or revenue, maybe the perception of them as well. Otherwise, they probably don’t give a toss and they also know he’s one of their most valuable assets. The fact they’ve already interviewed him to let him apologise (they did, I think?) probably implies they won’t fire him (right away), I guess.
Talksport (unless i missed it) hasnt said a word on the utd pool game, ive been waiting all day for it see what they say and hardly out, maybe few words on rashford.
The one where everyone and his dog basically forgets about it after a week and moves on to the next target of ire.
Whats the level headed unbiased take on this on RAWK
Is his punishment being blasted with Homer's make-up gun? He looks like a sausage with teeth in a Top Shop suit...
Exactly, all this talk of suspension, mobile phones, the wind, who’s more wrong and the rest of it. People seem to be missing the point that this shows exactly what kind of person he is and it’s not very nice, spitting would never cross my and hopefully mosts mind in any situation never mind the one he found himself in.
It will be uneasy watching him for a while if he remains on tv I’m sure.
I still find it weird that we're discussing his potential sacking over a potential assault charge.
And how do we know that Jamie doesn't have a history of being a scum?
How many people did he spit on that didn't have their cameras to record it?
If that was his reaction to a simple "2-1" banter when he wasn't even playing, what do you think his reaction was with much heavier insults from oppo fans while he was still playing?
Maybe that spit was his Kodak moment but to me it just shows that it wasn't a one time thing.
That doesn’t make it right. Sky will sack him. How can he be a credible brand ambassador? He has to be sacked.
Yeah. I agree. This thread is just plain weird.
Where I am from spitting at people even if they are idiots isn't Ok at all.. Maybe thats just idiotic ?
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It was gross but it’s not a sackable offence. I wouldn’t want him sacked anyway, him and Neville work well together.
Well... he knew she was there, and he hit her with it (some of it).
That's quite close to spitting 'at' her - even if he was trying to bend it over & around the passenger seat occupant.
I get your point but we’re only discussing this based on what we already know, it’s impossible to argue about something that could potentially have happened.
AFAIK Keys and Grey had been behaving in that manner with multiple women over a decent period of time and it came back to bite them obviously.
Carragher has little if no history of this kind of behaviour. So personally I don’t think the two are comparable incidents.
We don’t know that for sure though. If that was the case then fair enough it’s indefensible.
Amazed he wasn't sacked, no excuse for that reaction imo, especially as he can clearly see there is a young girl in the car.
You’re looking for one of those ‘scouse lover’ tags aren’t you?
I wish you comfort through this difficult time.
Maybe I'm soft but I felt sorry for Carragher watching him being grilled in that Interview
Probably the most embarrassing thing he’s ever had to do, totally condemning his actions like that for everyone to see.
Thanks for your concern. Those slow mo images of him throwing out that ungodly amount of spit is going to haunt me for some time tbh
I totally agree with you! I’ve seen the amount of sensitivity in this thread wtr to the horrific danger and life threatening position this bloke put his daughter in saying 2-1 to Jamie fecking caragher.
I stand by my point the image of him slow more spitting half the Pacific in that video will lead to uneasy watching for a while.
Buying the girl a My Little Pony is actually a just punishment in this situation IMO
That’s what I found weird about it, the sheer volume of it
He admitted guilt and took a caution for Common assault. As some one has said below he has 2 previous cases for road rage one of which is probably the one I linked. This is not a one off incident and he probably says that he is sorry after each incident.
They didn't post the part where he was not sorry enough to offer his resignation.
Totally disagree with you, here is never ever an excuse for spitting and lets be honest there was nothing in it really , calling and saying 2-1 lad is not spit provoking, he should have just wound his window up and speed off, but the dad is wrong for using is phone to record it, hopefully he gets a knock on his door followed by a £200 fine and 6 points on his licence, he put his life, his daughters life and other road users in danger.
He 99.99 % must know that she's there, Berbs. No one has said that he was aiming at her. Or I suspect nearly everyone would say he should go.
The punishment difficulty, for me, is that it feels a bit binary - either he goes (harsh?) or he just 'seems' to carry on like nothing has happened.
But most employees would be sacked I think for bringing the company name into disrepute. And how good or bad he is at the punditry shouldn't come into it really.
DaftDad & quite sensible sounding daughter don't seem super-traumatized by it, which might just have saved him, I dunno.
That’s fair enough. Up until today, myself included many people were unaware of this kind of history.
Thats not what I said at all but acting like its Ok because the other guy is a twat is a stretch .. In no way did I say he deserved to be taken out.. He made a bad mistake and should suffer a bit.. But throwing him out would be a bit OTT, I am with GNev there ..
Ugly as it is from a moral perspective I still don't think it's bad enough for the ruination of a career.
From a brand perspective I think he's valuable enough for them to ride out a couple of weeks of outrage - maybe not, but I think so. I reckon they'll wheel him out to get castigated and he'll be depicted as deeply ashamed and remorseful for while (which he may well be). He'll be shown as trying to reform his behaviour (as he should) - attending anger management sessions , maybe donating dosh to the girls charity of choice - and kept off air until it inevitably blows over.
This guy is paid £1m a year by Sky. Let that sink in. £1m. If he can’t behave himself in public he deserves nothing less than the sack.
He’s a busted flush as a brand ambassador for Sky. They’ll sack him.
I think when people use the phrase “he spat in her face” it implies that he meant to do it. That’s really the only thing that I take exception to in this whole thing. I just don’t think he meant to do that. Doesn’t detract from the disgusting nature of the incident though.
I think being embarrassed on national TV is enough of a punishment though. Losing his job just seems too severe when you look at someone like Kirsty Gallacher who got done for drink driving with her kids in the car and still kept her job. That to me is worse and Sky pretty much set the precedent with that incident. I think without that he might have been sacked.
On the other point about the father and daughter. I don't think he would have wanted to push too much as he was using his phone while driving which is obviously not good.
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