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James Rodriguez - should we go for him?

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    Votes: 565 48.4%
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Marca can suck a bag of dicks if they think we're paying anywhere near that.

It would be like buying an expensive Persian rug for a house that didn't have a roof.
 
Marca can suck a bag of dicks if they think we're paying anywhere near that.

It would be like buying an expensive Persian rug for a house that didn't have a roof.
They're Madrid's mouthpiece, so it's highly unlikely we'll pay anywhere near that. If they plan on getting De Gea, we can just price him at like €100m+ then.
 
I'd rather not then. For a decent price I think he would be a good get but do think Madrid will be looking to make most of their money back on him, which puts him in the category of expensive luxury player.
Well,It's obvious that they will not want to sell at a loss,especially since we are still in may.
Honestly is too much(despite his quality)for a player that has been so many months in the bench.
Surprised that the article named Chelsea as well.
 
They're Madrid's mouthpiece, so it's highly unlikely we'll pay anywhere near that. If they plan on getting De Gea, we can just price him at like €100m+ then.
Madrid won't sell players at a loss. People thinking Madrid would sell James for €50m are deluded, despite him being on the bench for most of the season. Which is why I'd prefer us sign another player.
 
What they paid Porto wasn't the true transfer fee. They bought him with Moutinho and Porto owed Sporting a percentage of any sell on fee for Moutinho so to get around this they sold Moutinho for less than he was actually worth and James for more. They were selling both to same team so they could do that. James wasn't even starting all the time for Porto (I know he was young).

I wouldn't say he was great. Like I said in the above post he didn't start all the time for Porto. As for Monaco he didn't exactly set the world alight in his final season there. He scored 9 and assisted 13 in the league. Maybe I'm being harsh but I'd expect more from a player worth what Real paid for him.

I'm not saying he wouldn't be an improvement on what we have already but considering we could potentially be getting Griezmann I don't see how he would fit in considering he is wasted anywhere except when played as a 10.
You are not being harsh, just being economical with the truth.

In his only season at Monaco, he scored only 9 goals and 13 assists in the league but that was enough to make him the joint second (with pre-injury Falcao) highest scorer for the team in the league and 3rd highest in all competition. His 12 assists was the highest in the entire ligue 1 that season.
 
He is a good player but I dont want him.

Pogba and herrera work better in a 3 man midfield and getting James makes us getting Pogba look a bit silly imo

Unless he plays wing for us in a 4-3-3 in which case I will look silly.
Herrera is not good enough to warrant we select a formation based on what is good for him.
 
Madrid won't sell players at a loss. People thinking Madrid would sell James for €50m are deluded, despite him being on the bench for most of the season. Which is why I'd prefer us sign another player.
€75m would be a loss itself as Madrid paid €80m rising to €90m. But my point was, if Madrid want De Gea, we should try getting a decent player or two in return, as otherwise they'll look to underpay for De Gea. So if we include players coming the other way, if they they ask for ridiculous fees, we can just quote one for De Gea. Similar to how it transpired with the Ramos/De Gea situation a few years ago. We're in an even stronger position now though.
 
Rooney, Fellaini are terrible to average footballers, combine someone like a normal Ozil, James with players that have pace like Mane, Martial, Rashford and then you get something, or players who have both like Coutinho's, Hazards. But not wanting a player like James because he isnt fast is just ridiculous to me.

Mane is a good player but not half as excellent as some people think imo, he's never a player I would fear, not even when he is opposed to Blind. On his day when he can exploit his pace and running power he can be excellent, also quite a good finisher, but nothing elite.
Pretty sure most have a few reasons to not want to sign James, such as needing the setup to cater to him and possibly not suiting Pogba too well. He's also much more attacker than playmaker, with his qualities in closed spaces being nothing great. And a lot of people like getting that from your 10.

So, like I said, it's a signing I'm not completely sold on. But I can see the payoff. If he's truly up for football in England and United, and Madrid don't roast us in the transfer fee, then great. He's got a lot of raw ability particularly when it comes to impacting the game and producing match winning moments. And I can see him becoming one of the PL s best. At the same time his inability to play in a three is a concern. I don't want Pogba stuck in a defensive two. Also he's not my ideal right winger.

As for Mane, he's a class player. I don't know about elite. James hasn't himself shown anything elite for awhile either.
 
How many of those listed are actual squad players, varane's problem is his injury if he manages to stay fit he will start for madrid.
Asensio is their version of martial or rashford he is a squad player now but will be a starter in 1-2 years time. Morrata is a shitty striker, he is not at all better than what we already have. Is kovacic really that different from someone like perreira, i would not call isco a squad player either, james is the only one who is a squad player who can improve us but again would you rather spend 50-60mn on james or 100 on Griezmann, and the biggest consideration with james is we have to play a 2 man mf, why spend 100mn on pogba and then not even play to suit him best.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about
 
No one is paying 75 million for a player who's been warming the bench all season.
 
If Real demand €75m then we should demand €100m for De Gea. Don't want us to be taken for mugs again.
 
Madrid won't sell players at a loss. People thinking Madrid would sell James for €50m are deluded, despite him being on the bench for most of the season. Which is why I'd prefer us sign another player.
Why not? I'm sure they sold Sneijder and Robben at a loss?
 
Pretty sure most have a few reasons to not want to sign James, such as needing the setup to cater him and possibly not suiting Pogba too well. He's also much more attacker than playmaker, with his qualities in closed spaces being nothing great. And a lot of people like getting that from your 10.

Personally I think it's one that could bomb badly but also one that could lead to spectacular rewards as he's got a lot of raw ability particularly when it comes to impacting the game and producing match winning moments. At the same time his inability to play in a three is a concern. I don't want Pogba stuck in a defensive two. Also he's not my ideal right winger.

So, like I said, it's a signing I'm not sold on. But I can see the payoff.

As for Mane, he's a class player. I don't know about elite. James hasn't himself shown anything elite for awhile either. But Mane has qualities I'd love for a player to bring to united.
1. We are not setting up to cater for James. Mourinho has and will play 4-2-3-1, with or without James.
2. Some fans may think 4-2-3-1 does not suit Pogba, but Mourinho thinks otherwise and that is how he will use Pogba (James has no bearing on this)
3. James is great in closed spaces. it is in open spaces that his lack of high pace shows. He is best at #10, and less effective on the wings.
4. We dont need two playmakers dictating the game. Pogba is our playmaker and James is for the business end of it i.e. creating chances and scoring goals.
 
Why not? I'm sure they sold Sneijder and Robben at a loss?
There's a difference between a loss of €12m and a loss of €30-40m though. Madrid would be looking to recoup most of their money, especially with the likes of PSG and City flashing the cash this coming summer.
€75m would be a loss itself as Madrid paid €80m rising to €90m. But my point was, if Madrid want De Gea, we should try getting a decent player or two in return, as otherwise they'll look to underpay for De Gea. So if we include players coming the other way, if they they ask for ridiculous fees, we can just quote one for De Gea. Similar to how it transpired with the Ramos/De Gea situation a few years ago. We're in an even stronger position now though.
I guess, but there's a difference between selling for a loss of €10-15m and a loss of €40m
 
75m Euros is £64m. We paid less for Di Maria coming of a great season.
 
He isn't. He's been good this season but there's a number of midfielders who are a level above him.
Where?

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€75m :lol:

feck off Real, thats what they paid after a sensational world cup. He has stagnated/regressed on their bench
 
There's a difference between a loss of €12m and a loss of €30-40m though. Madrid would be looking to recoup most of their money, especially with the likes of PSG and City flashing the cash this coming summer.
Ah I see what you mean by a loss now. Surely no one (not even us), would be stupid enough to spend that amount on James, so what choice are they left with?
 
I actually think this transfer has legs tbh because I feel Jose see's James as a player in the Lampard mould.
 
There's a difference between a loss of €12m and a loss of €30-40m though. Madrid would be looking to recoup most of their money, especially with the likes of PSG and City flashing the cash this coming summer.

I guess, but there's a difference between selling for a loss of €10-15m and a loss of €40m
Madrid will accept the best offer they can get and that would depend on how many clubs are interested that the player is also willing to join. Keeping him for another season on the bench would only make the situation worse as his value will drop further.
 
Impossible that Real will sell a bench player for such price. Won't believe Marca much.
 
If Rooney goes, Rodriguez could fill his place as one of the main marketing figureheads in the squad, and he'd be a big upgrade on the guy currently wearing our No.10 shirt. We'd have to pay a reasonably large fee, but his wages would almost certainly be lower than Rooney's so the operation wouldn't be that expensive.

This might well be a marketing signing rather than a football one. South America already has millions of United fans, especially in Colombia, and this might be an attempt to get that market locked down after a few years of poor performance.

I doubt Rodriguez would be our only signing in attack. He'd play a role in the team, for sure, but may be nothing more than a high-class bench-warmer, who paid for himself with shirt sales.
Shirt sales don't cover transfer fees.

That is the most stupid myth in football started by Fiorentino Perez.
 
I guess, but there's a difference between selling for a loss of €10-15m and a loss of €40m
No club wants to sell for a loss, but in this case, they'd find it very difficult not to. They overpaid massively for him and he has spent most of the last 2 seasons on the bench. It's absurd to ask for the same fee as what they paid 3 years down the line as the circumstances are entirely different. You can't even compare him with Di Maria, who had just had arguably his best season at Madrid and he was one of their most influential players in winning the champions league. €50m for James is a very reasonable fee with all things considered.
 
Selling him for the same price that they bought him in many ways would represent a significant loss as prices have appreciated everywhere significantly since then.

That said, they absolutely will sell him at a loss if there isn't a bidding war for him.
 
Both clubs don't need him and won't fit in their system. Can you tell me he'll replace who in Juve's line-up ?
Mandzukic is 30 and will need replacing. Also PSG are going for a complete rebuild of their squad. Very sure he wont be coming here though.
 
Mandzukic is 30 and will need replacing. Also PSG are going for a complete rebuild of their squad. Very sure he wont be coming here though.

Mandzukic and James are 2 very different players and Mandzukic is doing defensive roles on the wing James will never do it as efficient as him due to the physical abilities of Mandzu. James will bring unbalance to Juve's team on the field in their setup.
 
We're lacking in intelligence and execution far more than we're lacking in pace. I think that is a more pressing concern

Yeah I agree. I think James would do well and we would get him for a good price.

I'm just not keen on doing business with Real as they'll want a slice of DDG
 
They're Madrid's mouthpiece, so it's highly unlikely we'll pay anywhere near that. If they plan on getting De Gea, we can just price him at like €100m+ then.

I know, but I still don't see us paying it. Or Madrid taking too much of a hit on him.
 
Yeah I agree. I think James would do well and we would get him for a good price.

I'm just not keen on doing business with Real as they'll want a slice of DDG

James could be a faster Sheringham just like Sheringham (love that player pure class)

We also lack goals from outside the box which are one of his traits.

Didn't he win the Golden boot in the World Cup and take them pretty far in it or did I imagine that?
 
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