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James Rodriguez - should we go for him?

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I can't say I've seen much of him bar a good goal in the 2014 World Cup. Could be a good move for all I know but he wouldn't be top of my list.

Certainly given his position, I wouldn't be prioritising that kind of signing.
 
A lot of you are writing off James only because he is sitting on the bench. So is Isco and Barca would be happy to take him.

Zidane has his starting 11 set from before the season even started and no matter how good Isco and Kova perform in midfield or James in attack, none of them is getting into starting 11.

I think James would be great under Mourinho. He can pass, he can cross, he has the x factor (most of the goals he scores and half the assists he makes). He'd fit perfectly behind the striker in his 4-2-3-1.
 
Lets not take a player Madrid want rid of if DDG is to go in some sort of exchange, Kroos, Varane, or Bale would be acceptable, but a player they are desperate to unload would not.
 
gaucho_10 said:
A lot of you are writing off James only because he is sitting on the bench. So is Isco and Barca would be happy to take him.

Zidane has his starting 11 set from before the season even started and no matter how good Isco and Kova perform in midfield or James in attack, none of them is getting into starting 11.

I think James would be great under Mourinho. He can pass, he can cross, he has the x factor (most of the goals he scores and half the assists he makes). He'd fit perfectly behind the striker in his 4-2-3-1.
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It's because of Mourinho that I don't think it's a good idea, if we were managed by Ancelotti it would be different.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Lets not take a player Madrid want rid of if DDG is to go in some sort of exchange, Kroos, Varane, or Bale would be acceptable, but a player they are desperate to unload would not.
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This guy has not been that good recently & arguably rivalling Jones' injury proneness. Rather take James as part of the trade and bought Varane separately if the fee is right than, got scammed into DDG transfer. Even fancy taking Pepe in for free this summer than taking him as part of DDG transfer.
 
ti vu said:
This guy has not been that good recently & arguably rival Jones' injury proneness. Rather take James as part of the trade and bought Varane separately if the fee is right than, got scammed into DDG transfer.
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Varane is a French that'll buy him some time patience wise, just look at Martial atm, wouldn't want James personally, we need to concentrate on what we need (CB, LB, DM, CF), rather than waste our time on players that will just complicate things.
 
In our team only Shaw, Young and TFM played less minutes this season than James Rodriguez for Madrid. If his value is less than 40m, we could take a punt for the number 10 role. For anything more than that is a risky business.
Seems Isco will have a year left on his deal in the summer. He could be a creative squad player option in midfield 3.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Varane is a French that'll buy him some time patience wise, just look at Martial atm, wouldn't want James personally, we need to concentrate on what we need (CB, LB, DM, CF), rather than waste our time on players that will just complicate things.
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We're never that forgiving to injury prone players regardless of their nationality. Da Silva twins, Nani, Rojo, Anderson, Bastian... got a lot of name calling for being injury prone.

Martial was afforded more patient from the fan because he was arguably our best attacker last season, and not injury prone.

Edit: James ain't slower than David Silva, Ozil... and his playing style is not physical depended so it wouldn't be a bad fit if even Ozil in good form can still be very productive. End product is what we're looking at so it's not too bad if we got James for decent fee. Efficient movement & good positioning can offset lack of pace, which as I just said his pace is not as bad as people tend to believe.
 
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ti vu said:
We're never that forgiving to injury prone players regardless of their nationality. Da Silva twins, Nani, Rojo, Anderson, Bastian... got a lot of name calling for being injury prone.

Martial was afforded more patient from the fan because he was arguably our best attacker last season, and not injury prone.
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True, I still think we'd be all over Varane if he was made available, and as he would fill a position we actually need a player for would be the better bet, + Jose has a good record with keeping players fit in the main, Jones the biggest crock we have, has actually played quite a bit this year, but clearly needs a new body to get him through an entire season injury free, I'm sure Varane would play plenty.
 
Orc said:
Not sure where he'd play in a 3-4-3. Unlike Hazard/Pedro/Willian, James' game isn't to use his great pace and dribbling to beat his man from a wide area. He's more of a classic #10 like Özil or David Silva, no?
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Correct, but he's more versatile than people give him credit for. He can sit deeper or come in from wide, and works well in the box. Anyway, this is heavy speculation. I may be wrong , he may fail under Conte or in England in general.
 
His wife loves Madrid and said before that she wants to stay there.
 
He's a good player no doubt. He'd improve us if Jose wants to pursue a 4231 formation but that's not really conducive to either Martial or Rashford, and more importantly, Pogba. Unless Jose were to sell Mata and Rodriguez would slug it out with Mhki for a place in the team. So...no.
 
ti vu said:
Mourinho likes a proper traditional no 10 too, which I believe James can be that. Willian type is a winger Mourinho would use to offer balance for the team where either no 10 or the other winger ain't the type working hard enough in defensive phase. Di Maria Ozil Ronaldo comes to mind (Benzema had to chip in in work rate too since Di Maria couldn't alone offset 2 players lack of defensive workrate)
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Ok, but wouldn't that mean that, if Ibrahimovic stays, that James won't come? Not room for both of them in the starting lineup?
 
RedMaestro said:
Ok, but wouldn't that mean that, if Ibrahimovic stays, that James won't come? Not room for both of them in the starting lineup?
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James ain't a winger. If we can start with Mata, Mkhi & another wing players Rashford/ Martial behind Zlatan then James would be more than OK playing with Zlatan. He's like an upgrade on Mata as wide play maker or no 10 if Mkhi was moved back to the wing.

Theoretically, James would be in trouble where he plays in same team with forwards who want to see more ball & need to be as influential, aka a Neymar, Hazard, Messi, Bale, Benzema, young Rooney & young Zlatan...
 
ti vu said:
James ain't a winger. If we can start with Mata, Mkhi & another wing players Rashford/ Martial behind Zlatan then James would be more than OK playing with Zlatan. He's like an upgrade on Mata as wide play maker or no 10 if Mkhi was moved back to the wing.
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Ok, since I don't watch a lot of Real Madrid games I'm wondering how much he's developed these last couple of years? Is he better than the WC-2014 period? Or has he even regressed? If he's better than that period I'd say, why not? Buy him, it's not easy to get the best players nowadays and he'll hopefully make a stronger impact than the current players.
 
RedMaestro said:
Ok, since I don't watch a lot of Real Madrid games I'm wondering how much he's developed these last couple of years? Is he better than the WC-2014 period? Or has he even regressed? If he's better than that period I'd say, why not? Buy him, it's not easy to get the best players nowadays and he'll hopefully make a stronger impact than the current players.
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I think he stagnated but not regress. He's still very influential here & there for Real Madrid without some more influential players taking over the spot light. Whenever I checked Colombia NT game, he's been good. I have a feeling he's more Robben, Sneijder kind of transfer than Di Maria. He clearly wanted to play & further his career more than staying at Real Madrid or moving to club in better city like Di Maria when he got pushed out. If Griezmann is available too, he's more tempting target though.
 
United as a club don't have great success finding and fitting players from South America for some reason. Most of our buys from that continent have not worked out for us. Even when we finally find a player who looks great and plays great for us, they eventually move on in a few years like Tevez or Heinze or are not the same for a longer period of time. Some don't adapt to the new country and lifestyle or some just want to move on to warmer climates or better cities.


Barring Valencia and Tevez, Heinze to an extent, we have had pretty bad success rate with other players. Maybe it's just rotten luck or bad management or wrong player at the wrong time or system, but I always worry when we buy players from South America. Somehow unfortunately they don't fit into our system. :(
 
This is obviously nonsense, but Don Balon (via MEN) saying that Madrid have offered us James, Varane and £20m for De Gea. A simply ridiculous deal if true, but surely there's no chance of that.
 
There's a Spanish lad on RAWK who says he is overated. He compares him to most of Houlliers buys. Someone had a good world cup so he bought him.

He's shite. Buy him...
 
Ah yes another attacking midfielder who can also play on the right. Just what we needed.
 
From some reports I read, heard he has developed a taste for the high life. Hope Mourinho stays as far away from him as possible (and convinces Woody to stay away as well). He is talented, but maybe not worth the trouble.
 
United Pro said:
This is obviously nonsense, but Don Balon (via MEN) saying that Madrid have offered us James, Varane and £20m for De Gea. A simply ridiculous deal if true, but surely there's no chance of that.
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:lol: Christ, someone thinks it's Christmas already.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
They're both quite clearly mentally weak, soft players, to the point that it's effected us getting what we paid for from them.

With Mkhi I addressed that he's a better player than the others, and I want him at the club. But if you wanna do the whole 'stopped reading as soon as you said something I don't agree with', that's fine, good luck.
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Whoa man. I was unsure if you were joking when you said mentally weak. How can you even know that?
 
I think he's a very gifted playeer. I'll go out on a limb and say if he comes to england he'll be a success. Madrid will demand silly money though.
 
I think people here underrate him a bit and judge him unfairly as he hasnt have a long run of games in ages. He is the type of player that wants to be a key player, star man, needs the confidence to get the best out of himself, be it Porto or Colombia for example. At Real thats simply impossible if you arent Ronaldo. It hasnt worked out for him but I think he could well be better than Mata/Mkhi/Martial as he can play everywhere behind the striker too. He was great for them in his 1st season scoring some absolute cracking goals, nice assists and made them play better as he is very goos in the final third as well. But with Mourinho's throwing under the bus, not sure if he could cope.
 
Red Katie said:
Whoa man. I was unsure if you were joking when you said mentally weak. How can you even know that?
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Pogba and Mkhi are both mentally weak players, in Mkhi's case, his biggest fans at Dortmund all note his weak mindset as the only flaw in his game. We even saw a bit of this when he joined and couldn't play for months because of some kind adjustment issue.

Anyone questioning whether Pogba is prone to mental collapses on the pitch has either not really watched United much this season, or simply on a wind-up.

Pogba's often an actual liability in big games, and it ain't because of his physical game - it's because he falls to pieces mentally when the pressure is really on.
 
Fridge chutney said:
I think he's a very gifted playeer. I'll go out on a limb and say if he comes to england he'll be a success. Madrid will demand silly money though.
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I think that Florentino would be happy if can get 55/60 m€
 
Let's splash out 60mill on a player with apparently bad attitude and give Mourinho some more bashing-options. Great idea.
 
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