Of course. If it's a genuine talent, we should definitely be on a lookout.
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I really like James as a player, but I've heard that his attitude is the real issue with him.
Apologies if this has already been discussed (as I'm sure it has been), but are the stories of him being a bit of a party animal and being generally 'unprofessional' true?
Apologies if this has already been discussed (as I'm sure it has been), but are the stories of him being a bit of a party animal and being generally 'unprofessional' true?
Nope. Leave that one alone. Cost buckets and he'll be off in a season or two. Why isn't he staying at Real Madrid? Why did he go to Real Madrid?
damn good player, but where is his head at.
Sounds like a PSG methinks....
damn good player, but where is his head at.
Sounds like a PSG methinks....
Does guillem ballbag work for Real Madrid? He's sat firmly up there A hole. Anyway James, I would take him for 35mill or less nothing more. We already have number 10s in the squad and if he's bought I'd sell mata.
I'd have him in a heartbeat.
It won't happen but it would be a good approach if Jose wants to get him, loan him with an option to buy for a set price of 50m or whatever and then see if he has it in him to earn it.
Loan + buy clause would be ok. Set piece taking and goals from midfield would be solved, but he can only play behind the striker, that means playing a 4231.
Sure, he's probably more talented than our #10's but that can't be the only barometer for a signing. For me it's not that he isn't talented enough, it's that I think he is a poor fit at CAM with Pogba and I don't want us to sign players for huge money if we're not playing them in their best position. That's the main issue I would have with us signing him. Reports of him liking the good life a bit too much plus questions about his work rate only add to those doubts.
Only basis I would get anywhere near him.
Indeed, anything that can be argued for not signing Griezmann can be said x2 for James.
The only way he sneaks into favour is a try before you buy loan with a set fee. Not that we should be doing that as the norm, but given we now definitely need a striker + holding DLP we could focus on that as a priority.
Which historically has been Jose's favored system. A lot depends on DDG situation really. If he has decided to go, i feel we would be in a pretty good position to negotiate a loan deal for James. But, if we play hardball over De Gea, they are hardly going to do us any favors customizing other deals for our convenience. I would have him either way tbh, but the loan deal approach is obviously less of a risk. As it would be for any deal i suppose.
Di Maria mk. 2.
Plenty of talent but not sure he has the attitude to be a top player and turn us into a winning team, especially in the EPL.
Would rather test their resolve on Isco if they're adamant on DDG.
Plenty of talent but not sure he has the attitude to be a top player and turn us into a winning team, especially in the EPL.
Would rather test their resolve on Isco if they're adamant on DDG.
He had some bad months in which everything got together, parties, problems with the police and bad performances. He could have a bit of overconfidence regarding his place in the team. However I do not consider him bad professional.
Thanks, interested to get your perspective as a Madrid fan.
Do you think he will be a good fit for United?
This. Why are you guys so desperate to sign another prima donna like Di Maria who might run away as soon as he gets a chance to?
One bad egg from Madrid means they're all bad? Ok.
I trust @carvajal over lazy opinions like "I remember reading somewhere he has a bad attitude"
20m plus Degea is the only offer I would consider in bringing him here. We don't need a player like him at, we have mkh mata lingard Rooney pogba enter who can all play his position. I can't see him offering more than them players apart from maybe rooney.
The only attacking none striker I wpuld sign is Greizman. We need a out and out striker and a centre mid more desperately. A decent centre back wpuld be great too assuming we get rid of smalling and jones.
Priorities should prevail above desires this window. We wasted the last 3 years buying shite.
The only attacking none striker I wpuld sign is Greizman. We need a out and out striker and a centre mid more desperately. A decent centre back wpuld be great too assuming we get rid of smalling and jones.
Priorities should prevail above desires this window. We wasted the last 3 years buying shite.
** i meant Madrid to give us 20m and James for degea.
I'd use him in a 4-2-3-1 where he thrives as a No. 10
De Gea
Fabinho Mike Bailly Shaw
Dier Pogba
Mkhitaryan James Martial
Greizmann
De Gea
Fabinho Mike Bailly Shaw
Dier Pogba
Mkhitaryan James Martial
Greizmann
He has a lot of technique with the left foot.He is good crossing and has good stats of goals and assists despite being usually in the bench.
But it depends on the opinion of each one. There are those who believe that with Mata the club don't need anyone else. Or that he is a luxury player(I never understood very well what that means) .In my opinion United should add more quality in the midfield , adding a little more competition too.
45/50m€ is a bargain.For that price I prefer him to stay in Madrid
If reports are to be believed than James may actually want to play for us, while AG appears less enthused. Plus Griez will probably cost twice as much. Tbh, I wouldn't want AG to come if it's only because we qualify for the CL, and are prepared to throw silly money at him. In contrast, I think James wants to play football and has a point to prove, and i think CL football would be less important for him than playing regularly at this stage.
I think it's important we sign players who -again if true- actually want to play for Utd. Surely that has to be a consideration too? I get the feeling AG isn't that bothered about playing for Utd, or in England generally, and with other options available to him i can certainly see him going elsewhere. So good, if it happens, but James may be a more realistic option that is more likely to remain open to us even if we fail to qualify for CL.
Khedira (ex Real), Mandzukic (ex Bayern), Higuain (ex Real), Dani Alvez (ex Barca) stories - all soon to play a champions league final for Juve and may beat the sides who sold them.
Cambiasso (ex Real) Lucio (ex Bayern) - Walter Samuel (ex Real) - Eto'o (ex Real + Barca) story - won CL with Inter after being sold by other big clubs,
Pirlo (ex Milan), Tevez (ex United) Evra (ex United Story - all reached CL final after being sold.
If a player is quality, it doesn't matter who is selling them. Plenty top top players have been discarded and gone onto to be absolute stars for other clubs.
I wouldn't touch Hamez if it means Rashford goes to the bench. Griezmann will be more than enough as a withdrawn striker and Marcus can stay upfront.
I wouldn't touch Hamez if it means Rashford goes to the bench. Griezmann will be more than enough as a withdrawn striker and Marcus can stay upfront.
I personally want to see Rashford given a chance up front with Greizmann but I honestly don't see Mourinho giving him the job outright. If he keeps playing well until the end of the season, perhaps Marcus can convince him that he's mature enough to start full season.
This suggests he's done quite well despite limited game time:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...e-been-offered-for-manchester-united-transfer
I wouldn't want to be paying that much for him though.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...e-been-offered-for-manchester-united-transfer
I wouldn't want to be paying that much for him though.
I expect about 20-25 goals out of him next year. Combined with Griezmann and Martial, and another striker (bring back Hernandez or the like) then i think we are fine, especially if Zlatan's recover goes better than expected and he returns by the new year.
That's the big thing for me. He's a good player, but I wouldn't spend much on him as he's really not central to our plans.
They tried to move him on last summer before he said he was staying regardless, and will be trying to offload him again this summer so I don't see why we should pay the huge fee they're looking for. A buyer should have the leverage in this scenario.
If Mourinho fancies him then I wouldn't cry, he is a talented player, though I'd still prefer Greizmann brought in over him, and new number 9 to replace Zlatan, if we go for any other type of attacking player it should be a Mane type wideman, with speed and the ability to skin a man.
If Mourinho fancies him then I wouldn't cry, he is a talented player, though I'd still prefer Greizmann brought in over him, and new number 9 to replace Zlatan, if we go for any other type of attacking player it should be a Mane type wideman, with speed and the ability to skin a man.
I think it's James who wouldn't be bothered with United or the PL.
FWIW, I think AG would love to play for us and money clearly isn't his motivation. His dithering looks to me as someone who has found his best form worrying he may derail his career joining us as a misfit. I can see the rationale, I would stay put or favour a team like Bayern if I were him so can't hold it against him.
So Captain Herrera is back to not being good enough and getting replaced by... Dier. All he had to do was jump with his back arched and not straight.
Bloody hell.
What's with both Manchester clubs constantly being linked with more attacking midfielders? The single position both are well stocked in and where I would think is their lowest priority.
It'd probably need to be a 4-3-1-2 kind of formation to make it work with an out and out AM like James and Pogba.
Herrera Carrick Pogba
James
Rashford Martial
James
Rashford Martial
Thank you, I agree that United could do with more quality competition across our team.
I wouldn't mind James here because of that and he is obviously a quality player on his day.
Whether or not he actually wants to play for us and Jose is a different story, I just hope he isn't like Di Maria in the sense that he doesn't care about the club particularly and just wants more money.
If he is keen to play for us for the right reasons then I'll gladly welcome him.
Is that based upon anything in particular, or just a gut feeling? I have a similar, although contrasting hunch about Griezmann, and it makes me doubt him signing for us. Can't put my finger on it exactly, and I hope im wrong, but my gut tells me Bayern or Juve would be a safer bet, and far more to his liking.
Just the way he sat it out in Madrid and refused to move on last Summer despite Zidane being clear he wasn't in his plans.
If he wanted regular football elsewhere he would have had no lack of suitors in the PL but he kept banging on about staying in Madrid. Not in a "will fight for my place" sense but "I'm fine here and have a contract so feck you" Winston Bogarde kind of way.
I take the fact he has cooled things off as a positive, not a diss. He won't move here for the money alone, which is great news. I think he is uneasy about it from a professional/career standpoint, which is the way you want players to assess moves.
Yeah like half of our current squad!
Hey I'd like to adopt this approach for our whole squad, even a pay system based on pundit combined with fan review whereby the players earn a percentage of their wage based on aggregated scores from all parties. We could even use the caf player scores system for this. Someone on here should get onto the official channels to suggest this
A luxury player is one that has significant deficiencies in aspects of their game which means they need to be carried to a by the rest of the team. A luxury player needs to add a lot with their specialist skills to justify inclusion.
Mata is very weak and slow so struggles badly at times in the PL. Some fans don't think he adds enough with his high technique level to justify inclusion.
Mesut Ozil at Arsenal basically.
The one that shines in the easier games when there is little pressure, but when the going gets tough disaapears. Especially in the bigger, more important games when you need him most.
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