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[Web of Bissaka]

If Real offered £50m and James in exchange for DDG, would United accept?

If De Gea is insisting on leaving, United would accept that deal...

..but I bet Mourinho would have influence over that in pushing for another 20m deservingly.

De Gea is a world class keeper, 50m even with a player of James calibre, is kinda insulting 70m minimum please.

 

[caid]

De Gea isn't the kind of player you sell willingly for any price - you do it reluctantly if he forces your hand.

Player swaps pretty much never happen.
Real want to sell James, knocking a big chunk off the De Gea transfer would be nice for them.
Its a rumour / wish list leaked by Real that i wouldn't pay any heed to

Not to say we wont buy him, we might, but it'll be a separate deal to a de gea one.

 

[The red panther]

How marketable do you think James is? Would a good amount of Columbians rush out a buy a United jersey with his name on? Genuinely interested to know?

Very marketable, he is the posterboy of colombian football.

 

[Grylte]

I don't follow La Liga, but what i saw from James in the WC, he was amazing, PoT by a huge margin.
I'm not going to be like pool fans, or wannabee pool fans on here and say 'in Mourinho i trust', but i have seen the sides Mourinho has built before, and they were fantastic.
If Mourinho decides to buy James, i'm in no doubt he's got a plan, and he also know what he'll get from James, having had him in his team at Real.

I wish PSG would come in for Hamez so we stop getting linked with him.

Why do you write 'Hamez'?
Because his name is pronounced like that?
Curious to see how you spell Ruud Gullit, or other dutch players.
Looks pretty stupid though

 

[Raoul]

I don't follow La Liga, but what i saw from James in the WC, he was amazing, PoT by a huge margin.
I'm not going to be like pool fans, or wannabee pool fans on here and say 'in Mourinho i trust', but i have seen the sides Mourinho has built before, and they were fantastic.
If Mourinho decides to buy James, i'm in no doubt he's got a plan, and he also know what he'll get from James, having had him in his team at Real.



Why do you write 'Hamez'?
Because his name is pronounced like that?
Curious to see how you spell Ruud Gullit, or other dutch players.
Looks pretty stupid though

I'll write it any way I please thanks.

 

[Zii]

If football over the years has taught me anything it's that fantastic players can quickly look very average when played in the wrong system or utilised in the wrong way. James was a superb player and I'm sure if we did get him it would be a great attacking option to add to the team. The difference between say fabregas as a defensive midfield and actually creative one is massive. Systems make a huge difference and if Madrid aren't set up for him then a player can quickly look poor. The question is really "Is James worth building a team around?"

 

[Grylte]

I'll write it any way I please thanks.

Ok, Haoul.

 

[cheeky_backheel]

I don't follow La Liga, but what i saw from James in the WC, he was amazing, PoT by a huge margin.
I'm not going to be like pool fans, or wannabee pool fans on here and say 'in Mourinho i trust', but i have seen the sides Mourinho has built before, and they were fantastic.
If Mourinho decides to buy James, i'm in no doubt he's got a plan, and he also know what he'll get from James, having had him in his team at Real.

They were not together at RM. Mourinho left in 2013 while James arrived in 2014.

 

[pocco]

I don't follow La Liga, but what i saw from James in the WC, he was amazing, PoT by a huge margin.
I'm not going to be like pool fans, or wannabee pool fans on here and say 'in Mourinho i trust', but i have seen the sides Mourinho has built before, and they were fantastic.
If Mourinho decides to buy James, i'm in no doubt he's got a plan, and he also know what he'll get from James, having had him in his team at Real.



Why do you write 'Hamez'?
Because his name is pronounced like that?
Curious to see how you spell Ruud Gullit, or other dutch players.
Looks pretty stupid though

That second paragraph...starts off inquisitive then just finishes with a bomb. I've noticed this before and wondered the same though.

 

[prtk0811]

If De Gea is insisting on leaving, United would accept that deal...

..but I bet Mourinho would have influence over that in pushing for another 20m deservingly.

De Gea is a world class keeper, 50m even with a player of James calibre, is kinda insulting 70m minimum please.

We would'nt accepet james , simply a player who will be wasted in our team and would never fit in the balance in our team, he would have to settle as a winger which aint his strong suit as he lacks pace and work rate which mourinho likes in a winger , With pogba in midfeid all the attacking part in the midfeild is his area and james would eat up his area in the midfeild too while mkh will also be wasted and not properly used and the same is with mata , What we need more is out and out wide players as we really lack wide players in the squad.

If we get someone like modric in return who could well play for 3 years alongside pogba and retire carrick or kroos then the deal would be nice.

James rod is of no use to us and certainly would not be one of mourinho's favourites as he does not works hard defensively and also lacks work rate

 

[Devil81]

James is a fantastic player, we'd be crazy to turn down the chance of signing him given the chance.

 

[cheeky_backheel]

We would'nt accepet james , simply a player who will be wasted in our team and would never fit in the balance in our team, he would have to settle as a winger which aint his strong suit as he lacks pace and work rate which mourinho likes in a winger , With pogba in midfeid all the attacking part in the midfeild is his area and james would eat up his area in the midfeild too while mkh will also be wasted and not properly used and the same is with mata , What we need more is out and out wide players as we really lack wide players in the squad.

If we get someone like modric in return who could well play for 3 years alongside pogba and retire carrick or kroos then the deal would be nice.

James rod is of no use to us and certainly would not be one of mourinho's favourites as he does not works hard defensively and also lacks work rate

So you would rather we get a 31yr old Modric over a 26yrs old James? There is no way Modric plays at the top level for the next 3yrs when he is already in decline at RM, but you would take him over James who is just getting into the peak window of his career.

The attacking part of the midfield is not Pogba's which is why we typically have 4 attacking players ahead of him. If those players are not eating up his space, I dont see how replacing one of them with James would do so. The teams needs a creative AM and a cursory look at the assists stats (Herrera, Rooney and Zlatan are top) is enough to show this.

Also there is not going to be any more 'out and out wide players' as it is less suited to the modern game. In the modern game the attacking midfielder drives to the middle, hoping to drag the opposition full back inward, while the overlapping fullback takes up the space. If the opposition midfielder does not track back, your full back is left unmarked and can easily slip behind the defence.

 

[Grylte]

They were not together at RM. Mourinho left in 2013 while James arrived in 2014.

Oh... my bad, was sure they were there together.
Still sure Jomo knows what the player brings.

 

[Grylte]

That second paragraph...starts off inquisitive then just finishes with a bomb. I've noticed this before and wondered the same though.

Never seen any write "Huan Mata", so it doesn't make sense to start doing it with James all of a sudden.

 

[prtk0811]

So you would rather we get a 31yr old Modric over a 26yrs old James? There is no way Modric plays at the top level for the next 3yrs when he is already in decline at RM, but you would take him over James who is just getting into the peak window of his career.

The attacking part of the midfield is not Pogba's which is why we typically have 4 attacking players ahead of him. If those players are not eating up his space, I dont see how replacing one of them with James would do so. The teams needs a creative AM and a cursory look at the assists stats (Herrera, Rooney and Zlatan are top) is enough to show this.

Also there is not going to be any more 'out and out wide players' as it is less suited to the modern game. In the modern game the attacking midfielder drives to the middle, hoping to drag the opposition full back inward, while the overlapping fullback takes up the space. If the opposition midfielder does not track back, your full back is left unmarked and can easily slip behind the defence.

A player like xabi alonso who was 32 when he moved to bayern could go on to win 4 titles with bayern squad providing the crucial balance in the midfield then surely modric can too , and he would certainly provide more balance, control and passing range in the midfeild alongside Pogba and herrera and provide crucial balance in the midfeild and help inboth domestic and european competitons. We can certainly retire the likes of carrick who has lost the legs. Pirlo at juventus was another example who alongside pogba made the midfeild superb and helped pogba to shine with less resposibility defensively and ball control wise so that he can focus on attacking. For a top team to be built the balance is crucial and such a midfeild balance will give us the edge domestically and in europe which has become very competitve right now in epl with top managers and top philosophies in top 6 , while it will also disturb real madrid's midfeild balance which can help us in european competitons when facing directly , it will be another makalele if they lost him.

It was mourinho who bought Modric for madrid so there is a chance he can lure him back alongside pogba.

While on the other hand james will further destroy our midfeild balance. We already have MKh and Mata as attacking midfeilders and james would be another option which we dont need , while he also lacks the hard work and work rate attitude mourinho and united likes in the players. Our system would also not suit james just like real madrid's and that's why they are casting him out , soit makes no sense to create the same problem at united.

United lack counter attacking wingers in the team who have high work rate and in epl wide wingers are more important than a attacking midfeild player as the bus parking teams defend deep and narrow so streching them laterally and longitudnally is important which an attacking midfeilder cutting inside does not help with as he shriks the defense even more and wide players stretch them while inverting the wide players is also an option.

While also Real madrid do not let go of top talents without a reason , there is always one reason. He could be one of the same likes of oziland diamaria in terms of attitude and hard work.

 

[Devil may care]

Never seen any write "Huan Mata", so it doesn't make sense to start doing it with James all of a sudden.

People have been doing it since the World Cup where the commentatators were pronouncing it Hamez, some were even using it for Hamez Wilson and Reece Hamez that following season. With Mata it would be Wan Mata is people typed it like it was pronounced.

 

[theyneverlearn]

Which Madrid manager signed him? Or should I say, who was the manager when he was signed for him?

 

[prtk0811]

Which Madrid manager signed him? Or should I say, who was the manager when he was signed for him?

Perez signed him, neglecting anchelotti's opinion.

 

[Kant-ona]

To me, he is a kind of ghost. Invisible. He had one and a half season at Monaco (I don't follow the french league), then he had this fantastic world cup in 2014, I watched him there, like everybody else, he looked great, however, it were only a few matches, and after Brazil 2014 he disappeared again in this big swamp called Royal Madrid or something like that. It's difficult to judge him. He is not a regular starter. He only played 4 times the full 90 minutes this season, right?

He is a ghost. Impossible to judge. Except you are following Madrid en detail, even the training matches. Or you base your judgement on FIFA 17. What the most do, I think.

 

[GailSpaceWynand]

Ok, Haoul.

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[Touseef]

Hope not. One di maria is enough. We didn't learn anything? Players who are deported from real behave like their life is ruined.
This guy is one more prima donna. Imagine his reaction when jose puts him on the bench in some big match.
And he is no10. Mata and miki are better. And they want to be here.
From real only player i want is varane. He is young, he wouldn't be depressed because he left madrid, knows mourinho, we need defender....

Yup. Robben, Sneijder, Marcos Alonso, Xabi Alonso, Khedira, Higuain, Makelele, Seedorf, Morata all behaved like their life was ruined and did nothing at the other clubs right?

But yeah let's continue taking 1-2 examples of those who weren't successful and create an unfounded opinion.

Btw I'm also not too keen on James just because he may not be the right fit for us. Sure he may even turn out like Di Maria but that is nothing to do with Real Madrid

 

[Mr.Plow]

Yea I'd take him. He's a brilliant player, it's Cuadrado that I could never understand the hype for.

 

[cheeky_backheel]

A player like xabi alonso who was 32 when he moved to bayern could go on to win 4 titles with bayern squad providing the crucial balance in the midfield then surely modric can too , and he would certainly provide more balance, control and passing range in the midfeild alongside Pogba and herrera and provide crucial balance in the midfeild and help inboth domestic and european competitons. We can certainly retire the likes of carrick who has lost the legs. Pirlo at juventus was another example who alongside pogba made the midfeild superb and helped pogba to shine with less resposibility defensively and ball control wise so that he can focus on attacking. For a top team to be built the balance is crucial and such a midfeild balance will give us the edge domestically and in europe which has become very competitve right now in epl with top managers and top philosophies in top 6 , while it will also disturb real madrid's midfeild balance which can help us in european competitons.

It was mourinho who bought Modric for madrid so there is a chance he can lure him back alongside pogba.

While on the other hand james will further destroy our midfeild balance. We already have MKh and Mata as attacking midfeilders and james would be another option which we dont need , while he also lacks the hard work and work rate attitude mourinho and united likes in the players. Our system would also not suit james just like real madrid's and that's why they are casting him out , soit makes no sense to create the same problem at united.

United lack counter attacking wingers in the team who have high work rate and in epl wide wingers are more important than a attacking midfeild player as the bus parking teams defend deep and narrow so streching them laterally and longitudnally is important which an attacking midfeilder cutting inside does not help with as he shriks the defense even more and wide players stretch them while inverting the wide players is also an option.

While also Real madrid do not let go of top talents without a reason , there is always one reason. He could be one of the same likes of oziland diamaria in terms of attitude and hard work.

Alonso moved to Bayern for about £8m and a 2yr deal which is not even close to the value you implicitly assigned to Modric. Also, Xabi style of play, position, team and league, allowed him to extend his career but still he has been playing less games each season since he went to bayern. Modric has failed to modify his game and is unlikely to last as long. You dont sign a part time senior citizen for 3yrs when you need significant upgrades in several areas.

Trying to play herrera, Pogba and Modric will simply leave our midfield to be overrun. Even with Casemiro, who is a better DM than Herrera, the Madrid defence is often left exposed. The EPL is not like the slow but technical Serie A where you can hide an aged Pirlo as a DPLM. If you sign a payer like Modric, his primary role would be as backup to Pogba, but then there are quite a few better options.

There is no point saying we have a player if the player does not meet the need of the team e.g. you cant count Jones as part of the CB rotation when he spends most of his time on the physio table. As for Mikhi and Mata, they have failed to meet the creative needs of the team. When Herrera, who is a DM/CM has the most assists, followed by Rooney and Zlatan, then is something wrong with the creativity of the team in the final 3rd. Mkhi and Mata have shown that they are more goal scorers than assist makers, so its invalid to use them as an argument for why we should get a creative AM like James (or any similar player) to fill the void. A player like James will fix the problem not destroy it.

United seldom get counter attacking opportunities, becos most team would park the bus and sit deep. Even then, if you have watched him at RM at all, you will know he is good enough in counter attack. James is not a speed merchant but has enough pace, more so his job is to play the pass for players like Rashford and not necessarily be at the end of it. A good counter attack is more about quick mid-range passing combinations than pure pace. He is also a good finisher and solid on set pieces. He is overall better than the players currently in the squad that can play in similar positions.

On his work rate, one can simply watch a game or even check his stats. He does his fair share of defensive duties and trying to paint him like a player who only waits for his team to get the ball is inaccurate. Also, Madrid do not want to sell, its James that wants to leave, and the issue is playing time. He is good enough to start for RM but politics keep James, Isco and Morata on the bench.

I dont really care if its James or anyone else, but the main thing is that the team needs more creativity in the final third and its not coming from the current players. If a good quality creative AM is available at the right price, I expect the club to buy him. Otherwise next season would likely be same struggle of struggling to score.

 

[prtk0811]

Alonso moved to Bayern for about £8m and a 2yr deal which is not even close to the value you implicitly assigned to Modric. Also, Xabi style of play, position, team and league, allowed him to extend his career but still he has been playing less games each season since he went to bayern. Modric has failed to modify his game and is unlikely to last as long. You dont sign a part time senior citizen for 3yrs when you need significant upgrades in several areas.

Trying to play herrera, Pogba and Modric will simply leave our midfield to be overrun. Even with Casemiro, who is a better DM than Herrera, the Madrid defence is often left exposed. The EPL is not like the slow but technical Serie A where you can hide an aged Pirlo as a DPLM. If you sign a payer like Modric, his primary role would be as backup to Pogba, but then there are quite a few better options.

There is no point saying we have a player if the player does not meet the need of the team e.g. you cant count Jones as part of the CB rotation when he spends most of his time on the physio table. As for Mikhi and Mata, they have failed to meet the creative needs of the team. When Herrera, who is a DM/CM has the most assists, followed by Rooney and Zlatan, then is something wrong with the creativity of the team in the final 3rd. Mkhi and Mata have shown that they are more goal scorers than assist makers, so its invalid to use them as an argument for why we should get a creative AM like James (or any similar player) to fill the void. A player like James will fix the problem not destroy it.

United seldom get counter attacking opportunities, becos most team would park the bus and sit deep. Even then, if you have watched him at RM at all, you will know he is good enough in counter attack. James is not a speed merchant but has enough pace, more so his job is to play the pass for players like Rashford and not necessarily be at the end of it. A good counter attack is more about quick mid-range passing combinations than pure pace. He is also a good finisher and solid on set pieces. He is overall better than the players currently in the squad that can play in similar positions.

On his work rate, one can simply watch a game or even check his stats. He does his fair share of defensive duties and trying to paint him like a player who only waits for his team to get the ball is inaccurate. Also, Madrid do not want to sell, its James that wants to leave, and the issue is playing time. He is good enough to start for RM but politics keep James, Isco and Morata on the bench.

I dont really care if its James or anyone else, but the main thing is that the team needs more creativity in the final third and its not coming from the current players. If a good quality creative AM is available at the right price, I expect the club to buy him. Otherwise next season would likely be same struggle of struggling to score.

Nah , just see how modric is bossing the atletico midfeild while James dint even make the lineup. James is overrated for what he actually is capable of consistentcy wise.

 

[dannyrhinos89]

Very marketable, he is the posterboy of colombian football.

I wonder what our shirt sales are in Ecuador? considering Tony V has been here for a good while and consistently in our first 11 for years. I'm guessing We will be big as there's not many more famous Ecuadorean footballers knocking around. We might as well expand the South American market Woodwards eyes will be $$ signs

 

[bucky]

Nah , just see how modric is bossing the atletico midfeild while James dint even make the lineup. James is overrated for what he actually is capable of consistentcy wise.

Judging by the Caf, most don't want him and don't rate him that highly.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

I'd wager he's the back up plan if we don't make the CL next season, throw a bone for the sponsors, and get a few of the fans excited by the 'big name' and the fee paid.

 

[MooseTheMooche]

I really hope we are not interested in him, if he is not happy in Madrid, then he most certainly won't be happy in Manchester (I know that his main issue is playtime, but I reckon that he will be "miserable" most of the time because of the weather in England, like most players from "warm regions"). Besides, i don't think he is a Mourinho type player.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

I really hope we are not interested in him, if he is not happy in Madrid, then he most certainly won't be happy in Manchester (I know that his main issue is playtime, but I reckon that he will be "miserable" most of the time because of the weather in England, like most players from "warm regions"). Besides, i don't think he is a Mourinho type player.

we'll, mourinho liked Ozil so.....

 

[cheeky_backheel]

Nah , just see how modric is bossing the atletico midfeild while James dint even make the lineup. James is overrated for what he actually is capable of consistentcy wise.

But Modric cannot do it every game and that is why it would be a bad acquisition. Zidane has been managing his minutes this season and he is en route to start less than 40 games this season. He is getting old and you cannot use him as the core of a team like United who are expected to play 50+ games in a season.

 

[prtk0811]

But Modric cannot do it every game and that is why it would be a bad acquisition. Zidane has been managing his minutes this season and he is en route to start less than 40 games this season. He is getting old and you cannot use him as the core of a team like United who are expected to play 50+ games in a season.

We can manage his minutes too, with someone like fabinho

 

[cheeky_backheel]

We can manage his minutes too, with someone like fabinho

Fabinho is a different kind of player - he is a DM/RB while Modric is a CM, but thats besides the point.

The issue is you dont go out to acquire a player for a core role, knowing you would need to manage his minutes. What we need are players that will start and play most games and Modric at 32+ cannot do it at the level required.

 

[prtk0811]

Fabinho is a different kind of player - he is a DM/RB while Modric is a CM, but thats besides the point.

The issue is you dont go out to acquire a player for a core role, knowing you would need to manage his minutes. What we need are players that will start and play most games and Modric at 32+ cannot do it at the level required.

Modric can play a holding role as Carrick as well , thought if not him then kroos or isco , James is a useless , bottler in big games ,not on united level.

 

[cheeky_backheel]

Modric can play a holding role as Carrick as well , thought if not him then kroos or isco , James is a useless , bottler in big games ,not on united level.

Modric as a holding player - WTF? Kroos is better defensively and still failed in that role.

Kroos or Isco will be very good additions but there is no way Madrid will let them go. kroos is just 27 while isco at 25, is slated to replace Modric in the near future.

 

[prtk0811]

Modric as a holding player - WTF? Kroos is better defensively and still failed in that role.

Kroos or Isco will be very good additions but there is no way Madrid will let them go. kroos is just 27 while isco at 25, is slated to replace Modric in the near future.

Then there is no way we should let de Gea go unless we get 100 m as simple as that. We could use the money for someone like Bernardo Silva

 

[prtk0811]

Modric as a holding player - WTF? Kroos is better defensively and still failed in that role.

Kroos or Isco will be very good additions but there is no way Madrid will let them go. kroos is just 27 while isco at 25, is slated to replace Modric in the near future.

Modric can play there as well.

 

[Josep Dowling]

James is a number 10, we do not need another number 10. That is the problem right now. We have number 10s trying to play as wingers.

I would prefer a natural LW and RW than just buying a big name player. Who at the price could turn into another Di Maria situation.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

Because James is better than Alli

He can unequivocally do more things with a ball at his feet but you'd be hard pressed to argue he was a more effective footballer.

I'd take Alli here over James.

 

[Zii]

Mata is fine for 10 role. We need proper wingers, I'd rather go all out for bale then anyone else.

 

[Snow]

I wonder what our shirt sales are in Ecuador? considering Tony V has been here for a good while and consistently in our first 11 for years. I'm guessing We will be big as there's not many more famous Ecuadorean footballers knocking around. We might as well expand the South American market Woodwards eyes will be $$ signs

We sold almost 30% more shirts than Real who came 2nd in 2016. Can't seem to find any numbers asides from club totals and the top 10 players in the world or per league.