James Rodriguez| Is considering his options

Ibra

Martial-----James-----marhrez

Schneiderlin---mensah

Shaw--stones--Smalling--Darmian

DDG
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Rashford to alternate with Zlatan
Pereira and James
Januzaj as backup to mahrez
 
I'm 50/50 on him, he's talented but lazy and I am not sure we need any more mentally suspect pussies added to a squad that already has plenty.
 
Long Ball said:
Ibra

Martial-----James-----marhrez

Schneiderlin---mensah

Shaw--stones--Smalling--Darmian

DDG
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Rashford to alternate with Zlatan
Pereira and James
Januzaj as backup to mahrez
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After what we witnessed at West Ham I don't think we should be looking at suspect defenders like Stones, the Stones we have seen this season is not an improvement on Blind. Let's bring in a defender because he can actually defend.
 
I'd rather just see a fit Schweinstiger at number 10 instead of James. Mourinho would probably work wonders with him in a Lampard role.
 
VP89 said:
I'd rather just see a fit Schweinstiger at number 10 instead of James. Mourinho would probably work wonders with him in a Lampard role.
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No words
 
itso 7 said:
After what we witnessed at West Ham I don't think we should be looking at suspect defenders like Stones, the Stones we have seen this season is not an improvement on Blind. Let's bring in a defender because he can actually defend.
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Tbh honest I agree about stones. I think he's overrated and many excuse him by saying he'd be a worldy under a different manager. The biggest plus for me about him is he's English and laporte will more likely end up at barca.

In all truth I'd like to see fosu mensah given a run at centre half. I think he's a beast and would be great. And I've said it in the 5 realistic signings thread. However I'm going against the grain as many see him in midfield

For TSM to play as a centre half it would mean signing the likes of Kroos (two players from Real is highly unlikely or worse would mean involving DDG) or my personal preference for Ruben Neves of Porto.

However to go even deeper signing James means playing 4-2-3-1 as our style. Whereas if we avoid him and play a 4-3-3 it would require one less signing. We'd only need a partner for schneiderlin and Herrera, as opposed to a #10 and DM. Like many I want to see pereira given a chance.

But I realise we need to be the best. And that city, Chelsea, Tottenham and arsenal will strengthen. That griezeman is truth be told out of reach. Can we afford to rely so much on Rashford, Rooney and mata/pereira?
 
Long Ball said:
Ibra

Martial-----James-----marhrez

Schneiderlin---mensah

Shaw--stones--Smalling--Darmian

DDG
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Rashford to alternate with Zlatan
Pereira and James
Januzaj as backup to mahrez
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Not bad, although might be too early for mensah in that role. Would prefer someone else signed.

And for some reason I think mahrez is probably the least obtainable of the 3 up front.
 
septic said:
Not bad, although might be too early for mensah in that role. Would prefer someone else signed.

And for some reason I think mahrez is probably the least obtainable of the 3 up front.
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No chance Mahrez will even look our way. We're shit, boring and in the feckin Europa League. Many other teams who can offer him just as much money and European football will surely be interested, if he intends to leave Leicester.

On a brighter note, James shouldn't be someone we should so easily overlook. He's super talented and can't think of many better players in a similar position who would want to play for us in our current predicament.
 
Earthquake said:
Thought it was before he joined Porto, for like 4m, or some tiny price?
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Yea maybe, couldnt remember either or, but I think he was offered and turned down.

He has his talents but is he really a player we should be in for? A Real reject?
 
Not for me.

Would be a small upgrade on Mata, but not enough to really justify spending £40m+ on him.
 
septic said:
Not bad, although might be too early for mensah in that role. Would prefer someone else signed.

And for some reason I think mahrez is probably the least obtainable of the 3 up front.
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Agree about mensah in midfield however as stated in the post above yours I think he'd be a beast as a centre back. Would mean signing kroos (won't sign two RM players) or neves

Who do you think is our competition for mahrez besides staying at Leicester?
 
Long Ball said:
Agree about mensah in midfield however as stated in the post above yours I think he'd be a beast as a centre back. Would mean signing kroos (won't sign two RM players) or neves

Who do you think is our competition for mahrez besides staying at Leicester?
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I don't think he leaves Leicester. If he does leave we have as good a shout as anyone but I think he stays for one more season.
 
Womp said:
No chance Mahrez will even look our way. We're shit, boring and in the feckin Europa League. Many other teams who can offer him just as much money and European football will surely be interested, if he intends to leave Leicester.

On a brighter note, James shouldn't be someone we should so easily overlook. He's super talented and can't think of many better players in a similar position who would want to play for us in our current predicament.
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If we bag Ibra and James early in the window then appoint Jose the outlook of United as a destination would change dramatically, imo. All of a sudden we'd be in a position to offer him the chance to be part of a fantastic front four, a realistic chance of winning a European competition, massive wages and a huge platform to attain superstardom.
 
itso 7 said:
If we bag Ibra and James early in the window then appoint Jose the outlook of United as a destination would change dramatically, imo. All of a sudden we'd be in a position to offer him the chance to be part of a fantastic front four, a realistic chance of winning a European competition, massive wages and a huge platform to attain superstardom.
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I'm inclined to agree, we may also find it a lot easier to keep some of our star players, DDG etc. Big if though, the club isn't exactly known for making the right decisions as of late.
 
Would be an upgrade on Mata/Depay and Lingard. But if i had to chose would take Isco instead.
 
2mufc0 said:
Would be an upgrade on Mata/Depay and Lingard. But if i had to chose would take Isco instead.
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If Isco leaves, it'd be the season or two after. He seems to be in the same boat as James - not truly fitting the formation Zidane wants to play and as a result finds himself benched frequently, but a lot less of a media spacegoat/'bad personality'.
 
DWelbz19 said:
If Isco leaves, it'd be the season or two after. He seems to be in the same boat as James - not truly fitting the formation Zidane wants to play and as a result finds himself benched frequently, but a lot less of a media spacegoat/'bad personality'.
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True. They'll probably keep Isco, if anything because he's Spanish and Real want to have national players in their squad while not necessarily in their starting 11.

Heard a rumour in Spanish sports radio that Zidane really wants Pogba and that Madrid will work to include James in a Pogba deal with Juventus.
 
I like Rodriguez, but I think there's a massive chance he would flop in England. Doesn't seem like the sort who would relish a battle. For the money the transfer would cost I would rather aim elsewhere.

If it did happen I wouldn't be upset, I just feel he would be shoehorned wide again, then we are having the same problem with Mata all over again.
 
Again, what's the point of signing him when it's virtually certain van Gaal won't like him as a player? He's complete opposite of what he appreciates and he won't use him in his best position because Rooney will more than likely be occupying it. It'd be another €70m down the drain.
 
Sarni said:
Again, what's the point of signing him when it's virtually certain van Gaal won't like him as a player? He's complete opposite of what he appreciates and he won't use him in his best position because Rooney will more than likely be occupying it. It'd be another €70m down the drain.
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You are talking like LVg will be here next season :( .
 
I think he'd good in the more advanced of a midfield 3. He'd essentially be in the position fellaini plays, but we'd aim for his feet. Slowly warming to the idea of him.
 
I'm not sure we need him. I don't think he's a "have to get if available" type of a player. That's a lot of uncertainty for a 60m player. And he needs to feel needed. Not yet 25 though,so he does have "face saving" resale value.
 
Yorkeontop said:
I'm not sure we need him. I don't think he's a "have to get if available" type of a player. That's a lot of uncertainty for a 60m player. And he needs to feel needed. Not yet 25 though,so he does have "face saving" resale value.
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As a starter, he is a member of the group of players that register +10 assits AND goals per season, for that reason alone he is very close to a must have. Now we shouldn't pay what Madrid will probably ask and we should drag the price down.
 
JPRouve said:
As a starter, he is a member of the group of players that register +10 assits AND goals per season, for that reason alone he is very close to a must have. Now we shouldn't pay what Madrid will probably ask and we should drag the price down.
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Can't believe the underrating of James being done in this thread.
 
Difference with di Maria is he hasn't had a worldy of a season due to being out of favour with zidane/Benitez so shouldn't cost €75million

Knowing ed he'll pay €74million
 
He is not a "winger", he is too slow and can't dribble that well. In fact, Madrid are willing to sell him because they have better wingers and better central midfielders. He is best behind the striker and he is a better goalscorer than passer. Very similar to Mata's characteristics indeed, despite being a better player. Seems to have attitude problems as well, poor work ethic and enjoying Madrid's night life too much. For up to € 40M worth a punt given his potential, however giving Madrid what they paid for him so they can go and buy Pogba with it and it's a ridiculous deal.
 
JPRouve said:
As a starter, he is a member of the group of players that register +10 assits AND goals per season, for that reason alone he is very close to a must have. Now we shouldn't pay what Madrid will probably ask and we should drag the price down.
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I don't think Ed will mind too much on what fee he would have to pay given his profile and marketability. I do think its pointless buying him for Van Gaal though!
 
itso 7 said:
I don't think Ed will mind too much on what fee he would have to pay given his profile and marketability. I do think its pointless buying him for Van Gaal though!
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feck Van Gaal
 
itso 7 said:
I don't think Ed will mind too much on what fee he would have to pay given his profile and marketability. I do think its pointless buying him for Van Gaal though!
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Van gaal isn't going to stay forever so he shouldn't even be on our minds but you are right about James marketability, he seems to be a huge marketing asset.
 
Cait Sith said:
He is not a "winger", he is too slow and can't dribble that well. In fact, Madrid are willing to sell him because they have better wingers and better central midfielders. He is best behind the striker and he is a better goalscorer than passer. Very similar to Mata's characteristics indeed, despite being a better player. Seems to have attitude problems as well, poor work ethic and enjoying Madrid's night life too much. For up to € 40M worth a punt given his potential, however giving Madrid what they paid for him so they can go and buy Pogba with it and it's a ridiculous deal.
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Good summary.

He was brought by Real Madrid because he was the star of the last World Cup.

He is not made to play in a 4-1-2-3 system (Real Madrid) but in a system where he plays behind a striker like he did with Monaco & Columbia

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Brazil - Columbia / WC 2014
 
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Downcast said:
Good summary.

He was brought by Real Madrid because he was the star of the last World Cup. He is made to play

He is not made to play in a 4-1-2-3 system (Real Madrid) but in a system where he plays behind a striker like he did with Monaco & Columbia

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Yep. I was trying to craft a Mourinho led fantasy United team, and James a good fit for his system. Currently a step below the top players, but he's still to hit his peak (in stereotypical terms, which discounts the chance that maybe 2014 was his ceiling, and it's all downhill from there). But our options might be limited in the summer given the turbulence surrounding the club (which might rule out someone like Griezmann - who seems to be in love with a stable club like Atlético), so James might well be the best attacking midfielder available to United in a fluid market. Not a Deco, Özil type archetypal creator, but his game is sometimes quite reminiscent of Sneijder - in terms of both being enigmatic players who drifted in and out of games before producing stunning moments, dribbling from the center (Wesley was quicker and twitchier - but not by a substantial margin), directness, and being scoring threats at the edge of the final third - and having the consistent ability to convert from distance (something we've lacked since Scholes hung up his boots).

We already have a few elements in place, and the addition of someone like James would replicate Mourinho's best team IMO - (Internazionale 2010):

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Shaw, Smalling and De Gea as a trio are comparable to Chivu, Samuel and César in qualitative terms. Martial has the talent to play the Eto'o role on the opposite flank. And James would be in his best role from the 2014 WC as the withdrawn #10:

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Both Sneijder and James fell out of favor at Madrid too, which might be worth considering if you're superstitious. Add Zlatan for the Milito function, and we'd be halfway there for the immediate future. Then you can progressively build up the rest of the team.
 
@Invictus

I am also a fan of this classy player because:

- He's still young: 24 years old
- Excellent capacity to adapt: he played in Columbia, then Argentina, then France and then Spain. Last year he scored 14 goals with Madrid including 13 goals in La Liga
- Good finishing for an attacking midfielder: let's say between 10 and 15 goals per year (2013/14: 9 goals with Monaco & another 9 with Columbia).
- Good dribbling skills
- Excellent passing skills

I strongly believe he has not reached his full potential up to now.

Season 2013/14 in France : below the best providers of assists in the French league :drool:

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Good gamble
 
The main reason I don't want him is, I feel we should move to a 433.
 
Long Ball said:
Difference with di Maria is he hasn't had a worldy of a season due to being out of favour with zidane/Benitez so shouldn't cost €75million
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Main difference is he may actually want to move to United.
 
The thing with James is that he's a #10 or at a push an AM, he's not a winger and yet he'd likely have to play there if we bought him due to fecking Rooney.
 
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