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Well, if Pereira weren't there, he would by definition play more, no?
Pereira played in the 10 too. Are you saying Garner would have played a full 90 if Pereira wasn't there, instead of Ole grabbing another kid to make up the numbers? (like he did with some of the CBs) Garner might have played more if Matic and Donny were injured. I dont' really see your point.
The point of the OP was he has no future here because Pereira got a handful of minutes over him. How about Garner just didn't impress in preseason? It's not the end of the world.
Nope, I said Garner would've played more if Pereira wasn't there. Surely that's a fair assessment?
I've never got the hype. Even watching him for our youth teams I thought he looked average. I really don't get how he got the hype he got.
Galbraith and Mejbri are our only two central midfielders who look to have the potential to make it here, imo.
Fred came in as a senior player competing in senior football for more than 6 seasons. It's a huge difference. Garner will get his chance if he's good enough and I agree he will be a great profeesional footballer somewhere. But being that at United is very rare, so we should be ready for disappointment. But looking at how McTominay developped Garner always has a chance. Mentality plays big part at top level though.He was Forest's best player last season. He'll most definitely make it in the game, just whether or not he'll do so at United. To be given a chance constitutes a run of games. Fred was given a season and a half to make it here. I think we can afford 5-6 games to Garner (assuming we do not buy any midfielder this summer) to see how he takes to it.
Andreas Pereira gets picked before him. Of course he wants to leave and I think he is doing the right thing if he does. Won't get a chance here.
If he and Andreas both left the club today they will be bought by very different calibre of clubs. Garner isn’t owed anything, and a little foresight would tell him Andreas won’t be around for long anyway.
Pereira is more than five years older too. Well, it depends on how you see it. The club doesn't HAVE to do anything. But if they pat themselves on the chest and say that they give youth players a chance, and also say that James Garner is one of the most highly-rated players, then yes, it's a little strange.
Top clubs buy top young talent too, to be fair. I don’t think the club is saying Garner is anything. That’s for him to demonstrate. But for him to stamp his feet because he is not ahead of Pereira in particular is odd, due to little justification as to why he should be ahead of Pereira is all.
Top clubs buy top young talent too, to be fair. I don’t think the club is saying Garner is anything. That’s for him to demonstrate. But for him to stamp his feet because he is not ahead of Pereira in particular is odd, due to little justification as to why he should be ahead of Pereira is all.
Was there any suggesting of him being unhappy because Pereira played ahead of him in pre-season?
There was a suggestion that he should be.
When all is said and done, probably smart to send him somewhere he’s liked and utilised in his correct position. This season could be a very good indication of his ceiling.If rumours are to be believed - Garner has accepted a 4 year contract and will head out to Forest on-loan
Looking at their Twitter feed he’s been treated like a messiah!Do we have Forest supporters here? How does fans’ society react on the return of Garner this season?
Not the right club for him, unfortunately, whilst his performances are good he's going absolutely nowhere with Forrest. He should be on loan at a bigger club. There's no pressure or competitiveness with where they currently are.
I don’t know mate, they’re bottom of the league having lost their first four matches. For a club like Forest, there’ll be massive pressure on them to improve that.Not the right club for him, unfortunately, whilst his performances are good he's going absolutely nowhere with Forrest. He should be on loan at a bigger club. There's no pressure or competitiveness with where they currently are.
Why James out? He's a good squad player.Signed a new 4 year contract, loaned out to Forest again. He was excellent for them last season so another full year and he'll be ready for our first team. Maybe he won't be good enough but experience and maturity wise he will be ready.
Next season:
Lingard, James, Mata, Andreas, Matic, Cavani - OUT.
Garner, Shoretire, Amad, Hannibal - IN
It's a decent level for him and he will definitely play, they love him there.Pointless. He was superb on loan last season, came back and not looked ready. Why loan him to the same place for a year again?
And what did that bring so far?It's a decent level for him and he will definitely play, they love him there.
6 month's experience he otherwise wouldn't have had. It's quite simple. Just let him play and see where we are when he's done there.And what did that bring so far?
What? The one playing in a league below Garner?He bosses it in loans and looks like a lost kid when playing for us. Not good enough, sadly. I have more hope for Ethan Galbraith.
That was good, but why more of the same is my point. He was already one of their best players, came back and didnt look ready. Do we now want him to become captain/assistant manager?6 month's experience he otherwise wouldn't have had. It's quite simple. Just let him play and see where we are when he's done there.
What? The one playing in a league below Garner?
