To be honest, I'm not usually one to muppet but this one player worth it for me. Even if he's the only player we sign this summer, I'd pay up and get it done. He's just right for this United team.
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The asking price is not down to him though is it? Apparently according to reliable sources he’s agreed personal terms. The fee is down to the clubs. He could move for 30m or 130m, it’s not up to him
well he knows that Dortmund are offering Sancho a new contract but didn't know that they already extended it last year?
If there ever was a chance to impress with ITK knowledge this was it.
I wouldn't call him a complete fraud but he knows less than you and the other muppets believe he does.
I don't we will be able to move players that quickly and at some point we will have to make a hard decision whether to risk or play safe. It will likely be down to Ole at that point.
There's trolling and WUM'ing and then there's posting a video like that for a laugh. I'm pretty sure any non-united fan would've gotten a warning had they posted something similar.
Quite surprised at the radio silence on this with regards to updates. At one stage we were receiving them multiple times a day from the usual journalists.
I would have thought we’d have briefed that we weren’t interested in pursuing a deal if we’ve walked away. Then again if we’re still in talks it’s been a number of days now since anyone mentioned it.
I would have thought we’d have briefed that we weren’t interested in pursuing a deal if we’ve walked away. Then again if we’re still in talks it’s been a number of days now since anyone mentioned it.
He really isn't. You don't have to read between the lines, because it's literally in the lines. But you're reading between the lines in order to try and prove in same way he's trying to trick his audience.
I think you are correct and he was not trying to present new information. I think he meant that we know we need to pay 120 mil.
His command of English is not that good and it leads to misunderstandings at times.
I think from the last update it’s a case of pay €120m guaranteed in instalments or no deal.
I agree in that if we walked away we’d have heard about it. I think this will run on for a while longer.
So your reading that tweet as though they've sent a message, what via e-mail or txt? To Ed confirming the price that has been confirmed all along? Jeez it really is p*ss easy for these Journo's to keep readers happy isn't it.He really isn't. You don't have to read between the lines, because it's literally in the lines
He's literally said nothing of note in that tweet and nothing that can be proved either way (which again is the key to his longevity as the oracle.)
He hasn't delivered any breaking information in that tweet but to suggest he's generally a poor journalist is laughable. He's one of the first to break many stories and many updates, such as the asking price, us being hesitant on the asking price, personal terms not being an issue, and so on.
Yes but what I mean is that if he forces through a move at something closer to 50m Euro's and it fails (which it likely would at that price) then he will look a complete c*nt in front of the entire squad and staff.
You have to factor in the difficulty it represents to the player in front of his team mates and fans. I'd want to be sure that there was a very good chance the move would go ahead as a result of requesting a transfer.
He said what he knows, that Dortmund wants 120 million. It's not some breaking news, he is just answering some fan who asked about Sancho.
Don't get the anger at that Romano tweet at all, looking for things that aren't there and a reason to have a strop over one of the few good journalists on twitter.
The reason why I still think Sancho is very much on is that we have not seriously been linked to anyone else. Either we are working on someone else behind the scenes (which I just don't think we are), or we are confident that this deal will happen.
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Sources From within Dortmund have confirmed that if Manchester United offer a figure that represents their valuation of Sancho he be sold. Tune in at 6PM for more bullshit!!
I guess I’m ITK now as I’ve stated the fecking obvious.
These journalists don’t know shit.
Sources From within Dortmund have confirmed that if Manchester United offer a figure that represents their valuation of Sancho he be sold. Tune in at 6PM for more bullshit!!
I guess I’m ITK now as I’ve stated the fecking obvious.
These journalists don’t know shit.
Spot on mate.
To be clear it's not anger, it's just grating that he forms the backbone of a thread that is knocking on for 800 pages. Neil Custis is the first tweet on this thread, that tells you all you need to know really.
In a way I suppose we would have literally nothing to talk about in here if we didn't debate his tweets.
Let's leave it there as I don't want to derail the thread. Just grates is all.
For Sancho to hand in a transfer request he has to know that the deal will 100% happen if he does. Otherwise its no chance of him doing it.
Yeah that's what I getting at.
Exactly. Don’t know why people feel like they need to defend these ’Top tier ITK’s’ like they’re some kind of football heroes to the people.
They don’t know shit! We’ve seen so many examples of this during Sancho saga.
”Agreement done next few days”
”Oh he signed an extension last year? Didn’t know about that”
”Dortmund will accept installments over many years!!”
”Dortmund want full asking price now”
”Sancho transfer immediate”
Etc, etc, etc..
Bolded cannot be emphasized enough.
Top-notch post and very astute insight. The scenario that Woodward is held in such poor regard and contempt that Watzke/Zorc in their minds lose face amongst their peers if they negotiate.
Did Barca confirm a bid when Dembele threw his toys out of the pram and went on strike? I mean, did some sort of bid went in and BVB rejected it? I can't recall. Going on strike and awol is actually to me ten times worse than submitting in a transfer request
Don't really understand opinions like this. Do you really think all journalists don't know anything? Journalists will know people in the game whether it is agents, current or ex-players and staff or have direct contact with the club. ITK's are simply people who post on areas like reddit or forums claiming to know information. The difference is that journalists will put their name (and reputation) to something whereas ITK's will not. So they are not the same thing.
Secondly, looking at how this thread had developed has really shown how hard it is to be considered a good journalist. Sure, there are some pretty crap ones, but the moment a journalist makes a mistake, it seems people like you and the individual below are ready with the guns out to crucify them and claim "oh look I was always right all along". The reality is transfers are fluid and changing and anything could be happening. It was the main reason the tier system on reddit was created, whether you like that or not, it was an attempt to identify journalists who tend to get things right rather than wrong. Romano has tended to be one of the better journalists over time.
Lastly, yeah, sure, I will concede that even the very best journalists will add some spin to it, to generate clicks. But guess what. Their whole job is to sell newspapers or to get people reading articles. It is the nature of the job. In this particular instance however, Romano has simply repeated what he has said all along, after people keep asking him over and over for new information.
Interesting but I don't think we have much credible info on that to confirm that's the case. I expect they used intermediaries to make negotiating difficult and perhaps to avoid directly discussing the financial impact of covid on their finances (as that would weaken their stance.) An intermediary can skate around certain subjects.
And ironically the only reason you came to that conclusion is because a journalist reported it.
Or, you know, the fact that it’s taking so long to get anywhere on this transfer.
Ironically, in fact, that’s where most of these so called reliable journo’s gain their information (the bleeding obvious) and flesh it out with nonsense to keep followers happy.
@VanGaalEra @Judas @Acquire Me @SirAF @VP89 @Squeaky Bumtime @ivaldo @GaryLifo @ChaddyP @Adnan
Assemble, dear friends
Pay up
So you think the only reason it's taking long is because of intermediaries. Not because it was reported that this was a contributing factor. Sure thing matey.
You would not know how long we've been in negotiations for without obtaining that information, again, from a journalist. In fact, you would not even know we were linked to him unless a journalist reported it. There is nothing obvious, for example, about us being linked to Brooks. I honestly do not understand why you have such a grudge against journalism. If you think United are in the news too much, then your anger should be directed towards Woodward, who (I believe) has already talked about the importance of lots of tweets etc at one of the investor meetings. They probably see it as PR.
Nah, as in statistic below on transfermarkt. I think he's very flexible, the output when he play as RW even better when played as AM
| Played as... | App. | G | A |
|---|---|---|---|
| Attacking Midfield | 17 | 3 | 2 |
| Right Winger | 8 | 3 | 3 |
| Centre-Forward | 5 | 6 | 1 |
No, I'm reading it as though he's Italian. If you're genuinely going to go deep into someone's command of the language, then do so with better grammar in your post. That's not a dig at you by the way, it's just affirmation that it's a fecking hard language to get right.
No he hasn't said anything of note, nor is he trying to convey anything new. Feel free to point out where he does. He was asked a question and he answered it.
It's incredible how a simple tweet that essentially says: things haven't changed, gets greeted by the detectives trying to call his bluff.
@VanGaalEra @Judas @Acquire Me @SirAF @VP89 @Squeaky Bumtime @ivaldo @GaryLifo @ChaddyP @Adnan
Assemble, dear friends
No joke! This post itself bring the muppet out in me.Listen I'm not writing off football journalism in general, but it's painfully obvious when every outlet in europe report our interest in Sancho that it's true when neither club come out and deny that.
This is what triggers a shite load of (mostly) nonsense from Journo's claiming the inside scoop. People / Journo's close to either club check with their sources and nothing is denied, so it's clearly on.
Then, what grates, is the nonsense in between. Just say nothing until it's confirmed. Agreed it doesn't help that people hound them every second of the day for info.
It has it's worth because it's important to know when press have been briefed by a buying or selling club. This I feel is the only time we can reliably use that information.
Let's see who's first to the final chapter in this transfer and revisit this. I bet it's a source close to United and Romano reacts to that. If Romano breaks it first I'll leave him alone.
Glad I could help, fellow muppet!
I dont think hes worth 120 million
feck it - walk away
feck it - walk away
Interesting how today you only need a twitter account, complete the courses called "speaking like fortune teller" and "how to say the obvious but still sound that you know something" at the adult education center to count as a journalist. They make their money for living out of talking BS all day long. The saddest part is that they stil find some people reading their guesses and clicking on it.
I think it's funny that the David Brooks thread pushed this one to number 3 for a while and then we all rushed to put it back top again
There's only one way this is going, we'll pay the asking price and spin it as much as we can to make it look like we got a good deal. There's no way we walk away from this one, the fan backlash will be on a scale not seen before.
There is a clear pattern of the last few years of the board backing the manager when they are out of the CL and trying to haggle and save when they are in the CL. The fans are not going to be fooled and blame OGS if things go south next season. It's happened too many times for it to continue to be the managers fault. The team needs serious quality investment with a view to win trophies and that means paying what Dortmund are asking for. The investment is worth it in the long run.
There is a clear pattern of the last few years of the board backing the manager when they are out of the CL and trying to haggle and save when they are in the CL. The fans are not going to be fooled and blame OGS if things go south next season. It's happened too many times for it to continue to be the managers fault. The team needs serious quality investment with a view to win trophies and that means paying what Dortmund are asking for. The investment is worth it in the long run.
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