Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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Feels like it's SanchON! It's just 10 million more. But I think this will hit our ability to strengthen other areas and also gives selling teams the evil thought that United will pay pre-Covid prices if they hold their positions.
Count me in as well.
where are all the OleOut critics (I won’t call them supporters) with their allegations that OGS is just a Glazer patsy???
This is the class of our manager. Knowing how to make a clear point to his bosses, without offending them or burning bridges. He impresses me more and more as every week passes.
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I couldn’t give a shit who your mate is or how reliable he is, I’m happy to go with this.
Also lines up with that other article of "limited but high quality signings over just buying multiple players". What I'm quite happy to hear, now directly from the gaffer, is that the money seems to be available? He's not going to talk about "quality expensive signings" if we had 20-40 million to spend right? So I really hope it's a matter of structure more than outright price for Sancho and we don't have to walk away. SanchON!!!!
This! Was going to post something similar.
Ole will deliver us our club back, he’s one of us after all. And if he manages to get Sancho then what a team he’s building.
I believe your post. Doesn't mean he will come. It might be a forgone conclusion among those people like the higher up guy in Nike but things can always breakdown. As seen in many transfers over the years.
I do like the quote from Ole.
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Never thought much of Coutinho but agree that he would be a good squad option on loan
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We NEED to make this happen. Dortmund are accommodating to the financial crisis by not asking for the full fee in one go with installments. If it’s still the 70-30-20 formula, that translates to 63m quid. I find it hard to believe the club can’t afford that this summer. Spend the fecking loot!
i could see us not being able to spend due to COVID impacts, however, we are briefing like the money is available.
So we can only go off the idea that a suitable amount of money is available for Sancho because wtf are we doing if we are skint in this window? If we genuinely can't even meet the BVB price or haggle a somewhat smaller price, why are we briefing about thinking BVB's deadlines are BS and we want "quality yet expensive signings"
Mourinho was a clown but Ole is actually learning how to play the Glazers and woody.
If we manage to get Sancho this would easily be the best position we'd be in post SAF.
Which is why I believe we do have the money. Look at it this way: If the total valuation of Sancho was 70m euros straight up, we’d make the deal without hesitation as would many clubs due to his talent and ceiling. So if the first installment this summer is 70m euros, we can afford that.
Seems like the issue is whether to make the other installments in 2021 and 2022 subject to performance (we want) or baked in guaranteed (Dortmund want).
Depends if we get what we /he wants. Hopefully he does.
Fook yeah. Who needs Reddit ITKs. We have our 'homegrown' ones.
Once we win that EL trophy, prepare for double celebrations. Or more.
EL trophy
Sancho In
Deadwood gone
Gabriel CB in
EL trophy
Sancho In
Deadwood gone
Gabriel CB in
I won't say he is a Glazer patsy. But he definitely is their choice of manager.
For Glazers a manager who keeps the fans content while doing the minimum possible is the ideal scenario. In this case if Ole gets comfortable top 4 next year with no title challenge, most fans will be happy and want Ole to continue. If they had gotten the likes of Pochettino, Tuchel or Nagelsmann nothing short of a title challenge would have done for the fans.
Glazers don't care what the manager says about them, they just want fans tuning in and spending whilst they spend the minimum possible of their money. Ole is perfect for them.
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That's a pretty aggressive discount rate if €70m-€30m-€20m equates to £63m! Or have you just ignored the €50m future liability?
United should go with a deal where they pay €30m this summer and then €50m each transfer window for the next 10 years. They'd get Sancho for €30m! What a steal!
I believe what most of the fans want is progress.
After ups and downs Ole has delivered promising results in 2020 and we can say that right now, we have a solid squad, playing entertaining football, promising players are finally flourishing, we'll have UCL to play and ambition is back on the table.
Despite not being the perfect manager, Ole has already achieved something his post SAF predecessors did not. The job is his to lose right now, but if he stales around 3rd and 4th in the next couple of seasons I believe the fans will ask for a change.
Should Ole fail to challenge for the big titles, I think the best thing to be done is move on without the whole drama. He'd be remembered as a transitional manager that set us back in the right track.
Happy Sancho day.
I’m sorry if I don’t follow the consensus but from judging our two three latest annual reports this narrative isn’t correct. In fact it’s the opposite.
The club has from a financial standpoint done whatever it takes to back Ole in his rebuilding project. The numbers is there for all to see.
Secondly the club can’t just spend “whatever it takes” in this financial climates. Why should we jeopardize our future? The Pandemic could be a marathon and right now nobody can predict the future and when we’re back to normal. Why is this so hard to understand?
Under any normal circumstances buying Sancho for “whatever it takes“ would benefit us in the long run, but when the money isn’t there what should we do?
I’m 100% sure that if Dortmund would accepts a three year installment we would be all over this deal in a heartbeat. Solskjær has in his short stint proven to Woodward and the owners that he know what he’s doing. I think the Bruno deal in January 2020 perfectly illustrated this. The last 18 months the club have stretched their financial muscles to the limit. What more can we as supporters demand?
I said this a few days ago that whatever Woodward decides to do I support his decision.
He has done tons of mistakes, literally, from Fellaini up to Sanchez, deals, wages, you name it, but whatever opinion we have about him remember that he’s in charge of a successful business. At the moment he do good things. If we want to criticize him when he’s bad then he deserves credit when he’s learning from his mistakes? Isn’t that fair?
Jadon Sancho will be a Manchester United player if the club thinks they can afford to pay whatever Dortmund wants. Make no mistakes. Previous transfers since Ole arrived is a testament of that. Take that onboard and enjoy the ride. This rodeo isn’t over yet.
Well, I wonder too why we dont wfinish other deals for other positions. We cant be signing only one player can we?
Yep, he's saying the right things at the right time. He know's that if he doesn't get backed this summer he might as well be fired in October
Jesus Christ, the minimum possible? We have the second highest wage bill in Europe and have had the second/third highest net spent in Europe since SAF retired. Yet they are somehow frugal.
Pretty much none at all, but it is one of those Twitter legends. It might make fans hate you so the clubs might decide to sell you, but for most part there is nothing. Losing bonuses changes nothing considering that they are small in comparison to wage bump with the new club and the signing on fee.
Most players don’t hand a transfer simply cause it achieves nothing. Going in strike and refusing to train is actually the only way to force the club to sell you.
I guess so. Bruno came from summer budget.
Gabriel will be underwhelming when Upamecano is available. That kid is going to be an elite hipster CB.
We might not have any money left over if this goes through. So it makes sense to get this done first.
Compared to how much money this club makes every year in sponsorship alone yes they are frugal.
Agreed...and the club can still manage to compete for the like of Sancho during pandemic times.
People seriously need to do their own research at times and not believe all the BS in the media.
Why is everyone assuming Sancho will cost even more next season, with general finances depleted for all clubs, it will only go down, also another year less on contract. We don't even know Sancho has extended till 2023, I still believe it's only 2022, truth will come out
Why rush in and sign players and pay them wages, when they will be dormant for a couple of weeks? Depending who our targets are, most of them will be training and getting their match fitness in at their current club, whilst our team will be on vacation.
Also perfect sense to ship a few players out before we get some in. If we sign a boat load of players, other teams will know we're desperate to sell and try to low ball us.
How much is the club's expenses?
HAPPY SANCHO DAY GUYS
Be ready, the next argument is going to be "but they've taken out £1bn from the club since the takeover!!"
We spend 25m in interest payments, a few millions in taxes, and around 20m in dividends. Everything else stays in the club, so I guess roughly 600m or so.
Corona has affected us badly. Cash reserves are under 100m (they were 300m last summer, though we spent big since then) and last quarter we reported losses (and in total 30m less than same quarter last year). The projected revenue for this year is likely going to be more than 100m less than last year. People who think that this won’t affect transfers are fooling themselves (though on the other side we got a debt of 150m pounds, but no idea if we will use money from there for new signings or only for club’s expenses).
Think Gabriel is on the verge of Napoli.
We will struggle to shift deadwood. Think Smalling will find a home but who would take the rest?
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